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#326 |
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The bitter jury argument is a lazy one. Jury management is just as important as any other element of the game. Housemates who suffered due to bitter juries should have foreseen this and planned for it in their games. Dan lost to Ian as he failed to read the faces of those he stabbed in the back.
The only housemate who was truly cheated by a jury was Danielle as there was no clarity on what the jury would and wouldn't see. |
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#327 |
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The bitter jury argument is a lazy one. Jury management is just as important as any other element of the game. Housemates who suffered due to bitter juries should have foreseen this and planned for it in their games. Dan lost to Ian as he failed to read the faces of those he stabbed in the back.
The only housemate who was truly cheated by a jury was Danielle as there was no clarity on what the jury would and wouldn't see. Danielle lost to her dad because he was the only reason she was in the final. Well those are my thoughts on both anyway. |
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Dan lost to Ian because they were evenly matched when it went to Jury. Ian played a great game, he won comps especially when he needed to. So it came down to the social game. Dan was dismal at the social game.
Danielle lost to her dad because he was the only reason she was in the final. Well those are my thoughts on both anyway. |
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Dan lost to Ian because they were evenly matched when it went to Jury. Ian played a great game, he won comps especially when he needed to. So it came down to the social game. Dan was dismal at the social game.
. I felt sooo bad for him how his last week went down. So frustrating. I still despise Dan, he is just a douche imo. |
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#330 |
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I assume Julia is nominated, because Vanessa and John are happily talking to Steve in the kitchen. |
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I assume Julia is nominated, because Vanessa and John are happily talking to Steve in the kitchen. Vanessa thinks America is in love with the twins and will cry for them. (truth is not many like the Twins or Vanessa and no one will cry for them nor will they have to because they do it for themselves) Steve thinks he'll be a legend as well. (nope on that score as well) |
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#332 |
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True. Ian deserved to win, he didnīt have a 3 week free pass like Dan. And Dan made the mistake pissing Frank of like he did. Frank said he wonīt win he will make sure of it. And that is what he did. He poisoned the jury. Dans fault alone for threating Frank like crap.
I felt sooo bad for him how his last week went down. So frustrating. I still despise Dan, he is just a douche imo. |
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And this is the problem Vanessa has with some on the jury. I know people think Becky and Jackie will go for best game but I don't agree. Becky is not a fan of the game and Jackie was also technically recruited. They're not BB purists and can not IMO be predicted.
He's still my 2nd favourite player though
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Austin used the veto on himself and Julia is indeed on the block so the alliance will FINALLY be broken up on Thursday night (Friday morning for us)
Too little too late IMO |
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Vanessa wants John to study for HOH comp. So i think that means she wants him to win instead of Austin. But who knows with that woman.
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#336 |
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Vanessa wants John to study for HOH comp. So i think that means she wants him to win instead of Austin. But who knows with that woman.
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Have they already decided who is going on thursday? They seem to only gametalk when i am sleeping so i havenīt watched anything.
Also John slipped up last night a little bit. Steve is very suspicious about him being AP and he talked about Eric. And John was "oh you mean the season Evil Dick won... uhhh Jason told me that". That was hilarious. |
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#338 |
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Have they already decided who is going on thursday? They seem to only gametalk when i am sleeping so i havenīt watched anything.
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Steve has decided he no longer trusts Vanessa.
Several weeks too late pal |
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Steve has decided he no longer trusts Vanessa.
Several weeks too late pal Vanessa is more or less the winner now, she has all the bases covered to get to final 2 despite playing a bit too hard |
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Steve has decided he no longer trusts Vanessa.
Several weeks too late pal |
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I really hope Liz doesn't go home even though the writing's on the wall for this one. There's literally no reason whatsoever to keep Liz over Julia. Liz is the strongest player with the most connections out of the two. Shame though, she was my favourite from the very beginning.
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I get the sense Vanessa wants John / Steve to go with her to final 4 as she likes them more. However, strategically it's better for her to go with John and Julia. So Steve / Austin are her targets to get rid of.
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Yeah I wish Liz was staying, Julia is too naive for this game and believes Vanessa over anyone. It's tiring listening her game talk with Vanessa.
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Twins have just said Vanessa's trying to be Derrick and that she's playing them YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Twins have just said Vanessa's trying to be Derrick and that she's playing them YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
LOL |
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Maybe, just maybe they should have campaigned to Steve to get her nominated, instead of Julia. You know, actually play the game.....
LOL But at least Vanessa has some competition now and got to give credit to Austin + Co. for not being moronic Cody / Victoria esc. |
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#348 |
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Steve is mumbling to himself about why Vanessa asked John to target Liz in the Veto, instead of Julia.
The answer IMO, is that Vanessa wanted to spook Austin into fighting for the Veto, without actually tipping him off personally. Vanessa wanted Liz out this week, not Austin and she has succeeded. |
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I get the sense Vanessa wants John / Steve to go with her to final 4 as she likes them more. However, strategically it's better for her to go with John and Julia. So Steve / Austin are her targets to get rid of.
Steve/John vs. Austin/Julia. Neither side can really afford to boot Vanessa next week, and the HoH will hold the power despite the Veto because it'll come down to a 1-1 vote if Vanessa ends up on the block and the HoH won't be able to afford to boot her over the duo... will they? Then from final four, I think she'll have to win out. She might - might - be able to get someone to take her to final three, but final two? No chance (unless Julia wins it). Quote:
Twins have just said Vanessa's trying to be Derrick and that she's playing them YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
Anyway, no way Julia will keep John/Steve at any stage of this game over Vanessa. Vanessa is Julia's #1, Derrick or no Derrick. |
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It doesn't really matter to Vanessa at this point.
Steve/John vs. Austin/Julia. Neither side can really afford to boot Vanessa next week, and the HoH will hold the power despite the Veto because it'll come down to a 1-1 vote if Vanessa ends up on the block and the HoH won't be able to afford to boot her over the duo... will they? Then from final four, I think she'll have to win out. She might - might - be able to get someone to take her to final three, but final two? No chance (unless Julia wins it). Does it really matter at this point? She can't really go next week unless they feel more threatened about her than the other duo, and then at final four, she's going to have to win out anyway. They've woken up too late. Anyway, no way Julia will keep John/Steve at any stage of this game over Vanessa. Vanessa is Julia's #1, Derrick or no Derrick. Vanessa odds of making final 2 are only guaranteed if she wins out over Final 4 / 3. I cannot see anyone taking her. Maybe Steve if he thinks the Jury is bitter? Or maybe Julia if John gets voted off. |
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