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Old 08-09-2015, 15:28
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I get the sense Vanessa wants John / Steve to go with her to final 4 as she likes them more. However, strategically it's better for her to go with John and Julia. So Steve / Austin are her targets to get rid of.
Steve is the best way to win. He's not done one thing on his own. Without Vanessa he'd have gone long ago. Same with Julia. And those 2 made no connections with anyone currently in jury. She wins for sure against either of them.

Exactly my thoughts.

But at least Vanessa has some competition now and got to give credit to Austin + Co. for not being moronic Cody / Victoria esc.
I feel the exact opposite of that. They've been totally moronic taking Vanessa s advice again and again. They had the option to stick to the final 5 deal with James and Meg, both of whom were most likely to get rid of Vanessa before them. They never saw her alliance with Steve and John as even possible.
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Old 08-09-2015, 16:01
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Disagree, Julia / Liz actually think Julia could potentially win over John so she "should" keep him around if she has half a brain over Vanessa.

Vanessa odds of making final 2 are only guaranteed if she wins out over Final 4 / 3. I cannot see anyone taking her.

Maybe Steve if he thinks the Jury is bitter? Or maybe Julia if John gets voted off.
It all depends on who wins what, to be honest. Next week should be straight forward. Whichever duo wins HoH takes a shot at the other duo, but once final four comes along there's so many scenarios.

If the one who loses their partner next week wins Veto at final four, they're not going to take Vanessa out and leave the duo in, are they? They'll need Vanessa at that point and will just have to hope that if Vanessa wins at final three, they take her.
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Old 08-09-2015, 16:49
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Everyone should want to take Julia and John imo. They both canīt stand each other and would never take each other to F2. I love John but if he doesnīt at least make one good move now he is not going to win. He got EVICTED. Who would vote for him? I know the whole jury loves him but that canīt be enough to give him the win imo. Unless they hate Vanessa that much that they wouldnīt vote for her no matter what. He would get a few votes i believe but not more than 4.

He might win against Julia because she was only coattail riding her sister and Austin and never had to do anything. At least he had to fight almost every week to stay.
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Old 08-09-2015, 18:25
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Vanessa never should of promised the twins she'd vote the way they want LOL
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Old 08-09-2015, 19:47
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Vanessa never should of promised the twins she'd vote the way they want LOL
I think she began that immediately after the Veto comp to focus their minds on each other, rather than trying to get Vanessa nominated.
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Old 08-09-2015, 20:12
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HoH picture day.

Liztin are not cooperating....
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Old 08-09-2015, 20:36
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All HG's now wearing their tutus for photographs

Even a begrudging Austin

Very fetching
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Old 08-09-2015, 21:42
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Austin tells Liz he wants to make a deal with Johnny Mac to take out Vanessa next week. But he's afraid he will run back to her about it.

Austin thinks Vanessa will throw HoH. Me too.

Austin: "She thinks everyone will take her...."
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Old 08-09-2015, 21:44
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Liz: "She's (Vanessa) is up to no good"

Austin: "She's stopped talking game to me"

Liz: "Me too"
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Old 08-09-2015, 21:46
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Austin:" She's setting it up for F2 with Johnny Mac"
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Old 08-09-2015, 21:48
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Austin: "She started this (with Steve and John) during her HoH. That's why she didn't touch them."
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Old 08-09-2015, 21:50
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Austin: "There are only two ways to go about this:

A: Win and get answers after.

or

B: Sit down with Johnny Mac and explain all this"
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Old 08-09-2015, 21:52
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Liz: "Maybe we wait till after HoH?"

If John wins it, he isn't going to listen to her. That's why not.
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Old 08-09-2015, 21:54
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Come on Austin. Steve would love to have this conversation with you....
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Old 08-09-2015, 21:58
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Julia: "Do you have a F2 with Vanessa?"

Austin:"Ofcourse!"

Julia: "Me too"
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Old 08-09-2015, 21:59
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Julia: "I don't trust her at all"
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Old 08-09-2015, 22:12
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Austin wants to tell John everything but he is afraid

Yes he is....

Sad Lurch
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Old 08-09-2015, 22:13
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Liz needs to campaign to John for his vote and make a deal while they're at it.

It ain't rocket science
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Old 08-09-2015, 22:15
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Austin wants Julia to make their campaign.

Good grief
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Old 08-09-2015, 22:16
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Meanwhile Vanessa is brainwa.....I mean talking to Steve.

But I'm not switching....
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Old 08-09-2015, 22:19
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Julia: "I did what I wanted to do. I won a Veto! I'm not Victoria!!"
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Old 08-09-2015, 22:21
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Julia is planning to "blow shit up" (namely Vanessa) on her way out.

Goody
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Old 08-09-2015, 22:25
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If Julia's campaign does go back to Vanessa she will want her out. Julia will get what she wants anyway....her own eviction.
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Old 08-09-2015, 22:26
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Austin thinks Vanessa still can't go against them...
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Old 08-09-2015, 22:35
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Austwins plan to tell Vanessa they want Liz to stay. If she makes excuses about promises to Steve or whatever, that will be their trigger to go to John.
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