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A task where a horrible person is encouraged to use homophobic slurs
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Libretio
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy:
“I think homophobia should always be challenged , but it's a serious accusation and needs real evidence . I don't think any of that ^ shows homophobia .”

No, but it demonstrates a tendency toward homophobia. Anyone who's been on the receiving end of such bigotry can spot it a mile away, and while it may not be enough to 'convict her in a court of law', it's certainly enough to make me believe she's keeping a lid on her real opinions for no other reason than she isn't allowed to speak her mind in this regard, at the risk of being kicked out of the House. The task removed the muzzle for a short time, and what she said confirmed Every. Single. Suspicion. Anyone who could possibly doubt that she meant what she said is fooling themselves and is simply making excuses for her behaviour. Either that or they've never been on the receiving end of prejudice of any kind.

And you're right. Accusing someone of being homophobic is extremely serious, and I do not do it lightly. In this instance, I'm more than confident in my assertions.
Virgil Tracy
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“No, but it demonstrates a tendency toward homophobia. Anyone who's been on the receiving end of such bigotry can spot it a mile away, and while it may not be enough to 'convict her in a court of law', it's certainly enough to make me believe she's keeping a lid on her real opinions for no other reason than she isn't allowed to speak her mind in this regard, at the risk of being kicked out of the House. The task removed the muzzle for a short time, and what she said confirmed Every. Single. Suspicion. Anyone who could possibly doubt that she meant what she said is fooling themselves and is simply making excuses for her behaviour. Either that or they've never been on the receiving end of prejudice of any kind.

And you're right. Accusing someone of being homophobic is extremely serious, and I do not do it lightly. In this instance, I'm more than confident in my assertions.”

so if I disagree with you I'm fooling myself , well thanks that sort of thing doesn't help your argument .

you're entitled to your suspicions but you seem rather too insistent that we should agree with them .

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Libretio
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy:
“so if I disagree with you I'm fooling myself”

I didn't mean it in an unkind way. As I indicated in my previous post, the evidence may not amount to a 'smoking gun', but it's there for anyone to see. Choosing to ignore or excuse it seems evasive or, indeed, foolish. If I'd really wanted to be a nasty bitch, there are much stronger terms I could have used than simply 'foolish'.

Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy:
“you're entitled to your suspicions but you seem rather too insistent that we should agree with them .”

If they were nothing more than 'suspicions' based on hot air and bias, I wouldn't argue the point so strongly. Farrah has demonstrated more than enough homophobia for me to state my case in the strongest possible terms. After the way she scraped the barrel with Bobby, using his marriage as fodder during her attack on him, do you honestly believe she wouldn't use homophobic slurs if she was allowed free rein during an argument with either James or Austin?

She meant those slurs when she used them during the 'let's-upset-the-Royals' task. She virtually admitted as much when she later described what she'd done as 'therapy'. Again, not a smoking gun, but more than enough for me to recognise a homophobe when I see one.
EnricoIV
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by acid rain:
“By the way, you broke the terms and conditions when you called me snotty and nasty.”

Sue me. But, to be precise, I said you said nasty things - not that you were nasty. I don't know you. You may or may not be.
EnricoIV
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“I can ask you the same thing. You've reached your own conclusions the same way as everyone else, but you're trying to insinuate that Farrah is essentially misunderstood, based on the edit. What we've seen is more than enough to justify our feelings about her rancid behaviour.

How are you so certain she didn't? How many episodes must they broadcast in which Farrah behaves in a despicable manner before you stop giving her the benefit of the doubt? Unless, of course, you're no different than her, and are happy to support her horrendous attitude.

We do know. It's there on screen. Every sodding night.”

I see Farrah behaving in no more a "despicable," "rancid", "horrendous" manner (or whatever other term you can find in your thesaurus) than I see James, Bobby, Austin, Natasha, Jenna, Chris (in the one or two times we've seen him). Yet all I hear from y'all is Farrah, Farrah, Farrah. It's ridiculous. The only difference with her is she's louder, and swears more (well, than everyone but Jenna). But I don't find those things "despicable." Perhaps you're sensitive, and do.

Personally, I think Austin came in the first night and sabotaged her by spreading nastiness, which the housemates and you all have bought into.
EnricoIV
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“I didn't mean it in an unkind way. As I indicated in my previous post, the evidence may not amount to a 'smoking gun', but it's there for anyone to see. Choosing to ignore or excuse it seems evasive or, indeed, foolish. If I'd really wanted to be a nasty bitch, there are much stronger terms I could have used than simply 'foolish'.”

Lord. Was that supposed to be some kind of an apology? I didn't mean to be unkind when I said whoever doesn't think like I do is foolish, because I could have called them all much worse things.
Virgil Tracy
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by Libretio:
“I didn't mean it in an unkind way. As I indicated in my previous post, the evidence may not amount to a 'smoking gun', but it's there for anyone to see. Choosing to ignore or excuse it seems evasive or, indeed, foolish. If I'd really wanted to be a nasty bitch, there are much stronger terms I could have used than simply 'foolish'.



If they were nothing more than 'suspicions' based on hot air and bias, I wouldn't argue the point so strongly. Farrah has demonstrated more than enough homophobia for me to state my case in the strongest possible terms. After the way she scraped the barrel with Bobby, using his marriage as fodder during her attack on him, do you honestly believe she wouldn't use homophobic slurs if she was allowed free rein during an argument with either James or Austin?

She meant those slurs when she used them during the 'let's-upset-the-Royals' task. She virtually admitted as much when she later described what she'd done as 'therapy'. Again, not a smoking gun, but more than enough for me to recognise a homophobe when I see one.”

attacking Bobby over his hetresexual relationships certainly doesn't point to a likelihood of homophobia , a bit of a strange example you've used there , a real example of jumping to conclusions .

sure she can be nasty and personal , but I won't accuse someone of homophobia until I have good evidence .
Aimee
06-09-2015
For the record, it was disgusting that BB did this, but then to drag Farrah to the diary room and reprimand her,,, wft??
BB morons!!!
sheils1
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by AA2009:
“To make sensitive people cry.

Big Brother on Channel 5, everyone!”

Oh get over yourself, ffs it was a task.
yellowlabbie
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by Aimee:
“For the record, it was disgusting that BB did this, but then to drag Farrah to the diary room and reprimand her,,, wft??
BB morons!!!”

BB didn't ask Farrah to do it, the USA hms voted for her.
EnricoIV
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“BB didn't ask Farrah to do it, the USA hms voted for her.”

Okay, BB told the USA hms to pick someone, which they did. Bottom line, it was something that BB set them to do.
acid rain
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by EnricoIV:
“Sue me. But, to be precise, I said you said nasty things - not that you were nasty. I don't know you. You may or may not be.”


I'm not going to sue you, but I could've reported you if I'd wanted to.
EnricoIV
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by acid rain:
“I'm not going to sue you, but I could've reported you if I'd wanted to.”

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