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Old 05-09-2015, 10:24
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Why did Lawrence give him money?
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Old 05-09-2015, 10:25
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Why did Lawrence give him money?
I have no idea myself, he said something to do with the robbery which has confused me even more
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Old 05-09-2015, 10:29
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All this nonsense with Debbie has ruined the character for me. Sorry, I really felt for him when he was with Donna but, now I just think he's a waste of screen time.
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Old 05-09-2015, 10:33
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All this nonsense with Debbie has ruined the character for me. Sorry, I really felt for him when he was with Donna but, now I just think he's a waste of screen time.
Same. I guess he plans to use the money either to a) carry on his boring vendetta against Pete b) run away with the dreadful Debbie, or c) both. Either way, I don't give a monkey's about him any more.
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Old 05-09-2015, 10:56
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All this nonsense with Debbie has ruined the character for me. Sorry, I really felt for him when he was with Donna but, now I just think he's a waste of screen time.
For me Michael Parr is what keeps me watching the show. Easily the show's best actor. He drew me in earlier this year and caught up on Ross' story. Whatever storyline he gets he makes Ross the one to watch. Even when he's in the background of a scene he owns the screen.

I'm sure with Charley leaving temporarily he'll be given a chance to mix up with other stories and characters.
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Old 05-09-2015, 10:57
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Lawrence owed Ross money after the Home Farm raid last year.

As Lawrence believed he got it wrong after he was told Ross was not involved in the Home Farm Raid (after trashing his house and causing problems for the rest of the Bartons), he told Ross he owed him a favour which Ross has now called in with Lawrence paying him off.

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Old 05-09-2015, 11:23
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Robert hired Ross and Aaron to raid Home Farm. Chrissie discovered it was Ross who did it and told Lawrence who started a vendetta against the Bartons, but Robert covered it up and convinced Chrissie to tell her dad she was wrong about Ross. Lawrence stopped his vendetta and told Ross he owed him a favour for wrongly accusing him and doing what he did towards the Bartons. Ross finally cashed it in recently.

But now Chrissie and Robert aren't together, surely it can only be too long before Lawrence discovers it was Ross involved after all... one has to wonder if he'll go after Ross when he does (along with Aaron and Robert, of course)
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Old 05-09-2015, 12:13
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I adore Ross Barton and Michael Parr who plays him. He's my favourite Emmerdale character. However I agree that when he was with Donna he was at his very best and his relationships he's had with Carly and Debbie don't come close. When he was less dependent on Debbie for his happiness he was much better. I did like the bare knuckle fighting though I must say Hopefully when Debbie leaves for a while he'll go back to how he was before he got with her. I really like his funny side more than him being miserable.
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Old 05-09-2015, 13:04
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The story line is pants!

He was found in the woods, in a ditch, with a massive head injury and a false passport by a lone dog walker. Surely the police would be interested Why did the hospital allow him to just walk away with his mum/dad to be looked after at home?

I know it's only soap but they could at least try for a bit of reality otherwise it's just EE in the countryside....
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Old 05-09-2015, 13:15
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Feb up with Ross and have change my opinion of Michael Parr. I felt MP was great at the beginning but now is not really making much effort with his acting. All he does is pull faces. Shame because he has the potential to be really good.
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Old 05-09-2015, 13:17
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Ross is Great
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Old 05-09-2015, 13:24
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The story line is pants!

He was found in the woods, in a ditch, with a massive head injury and a false passport by a lone dog walker. Surely the police would be interested Why did the hospital allow him to just walk away with his mum/dad to be looked after at home?

I know it's only soap but they could at least try for a bit of reality otherwise it's just EE in the countryside....
The police were / are interested. They had his false passport in an evidence bag at the hospital and Ross legged it when a nurse or doctor (sorry forget which) told him they knew the passport was a false one. He put his hood up and left the hospital. However he then ended up back in hospital A & E where I agree he would likely have been recognised by someone. Also I very much doubt the police would have left an evidence bag lying around where anyone could find it. The reason the writers did that was so the Bartons would see it and find out Ross was in the hospital but even so...
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Old 05-09-2015, 13:30
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The storylines have been a bit fast and loose of late but I wonder if thats because of things happening behind the scenes? A lot of the cast are on holiday, a couple have left, and the media coverage of Ross / Michael Parr has been quite intensive.
The scripts , I feel, just need to slow down a little
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Old 05-09-2015, 13:53
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All this nonsense with Debbie has ruined the character for me. Sorry, I really felt for him when he was with Donna but, now I just think he's a waste of screen time.
I agree

His affair with debbie and the whole crock of him being dead has been awful and a big character assassination. I was hoping he was dead as Michael Parr is deserving of better work than what he is being given to act out on ED.
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Old 05-09-2015, 14:15
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Michael Parr has a part in a film Dark Ascension
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1643249/

He plays the part of 'G' in the film which should be out in 2016. To be honest he is such a good actor that he might have been better off taking the leap into more films rather than sticking with Emmerdale as Ross. I understand it's difficult for actors and the security of a full time soap part is of course very tempting. However the character of Ross had better writing before now and if it gets worse it might impact on his acting. He's one of the better actors in soap and hopefully when Debbie goes away for a while Michael Parr / Ross will improve and go back to his best.
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Old 05-09-2015, 14:20
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The story line is pants!

He was found in the woods, in a ditch, with a massive head injury and a false passport by a lone dog walker. Surely the police would be interested Why did the hospital allow him to just walk away with his mum/dad to be looked after at home?

I know it's only soap but they could at least try for a bit of reality otherwise it's just EE in the countryside....
The whole Pete "killing" Ross story was basically just a cheap publicity stunt, as the ridiculous aftermath has shown. It was obvious to anyone actually paying attention that he was not really dead, but they could have least have had him be injured in a meaningful way, for more than five minutes.
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Old 05-09-2015, 14:23
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All this nonsense with Debbie has ruined the character for me. Sorry, I really felt for him when he was with Donna but, now I just think he's a waste of screen time.
this is spot on... his Love for Donna seemed real genuine and truly beautiful.... the entire Debbie affair has repulsed me from beginning to end.... the guys a loser
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Old 05-09-2015, 18:34
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this is spot on... his Love for Donna seemed real genuine and truly beautiful.... the entire Debbie affair has repulsed me from beginning to end.... the guys a loser
Disagree with the last point, in bold.

Agree with the rest though.
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Old 05-09-2015, 18:41
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Personally i don't mind his relationship with Debbie. He was flirting with her before she was officially going out with Pete.
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Old 05-09-2015, 19:10
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Same. I guess he plans to use the money either to a) carry on his boring vendetta against Pete b) run away with the dreadful Debbie, or c) both. Either way, I don't give a monkey's about him any more.
I wish that Ross would forget about Dour Debbie and move on.

But I think it could be c)
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Old 06-09-2015, 13:43
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this is spot on... his Love for Donna seemed real genuine and truly beautiful.... the entire Debbie affair has repulsed me from beginning to end.... the guys a loser
I have to blame the writers. IMHO they thought the popularity of the Ross and Donna storyline could be duplicated using the Dingles (rather like they did with Aaron and Paddy). Unfortunately for a lot of fans of the show it has not worked. I remember cheering Ross humiliating Debbie when she threw herself at him. I can accept people can change their minds but, when Ross declared that Debbie was the "love of his life" it didn't ring true. We saw how desperate he was after Donna's death, the confusion, the not knowing and the anger at losing her was believable and well portrayed by the actor. So to suddenly be told that Donna was nothing compared to Debbie is actually quite insulting to the viewer.

My favourite Donna and Ross scene was when they were "flirting" in the pavilion. It was lovely, tender and beautifully acted. Not "look at us we're acting at realizing we're falling in love", just subtle enough for this viewer to believe something is happening here. I've not seen one scene like that between Debbie and Ross, everything has been as subtle as using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. I really do think they should have left Debbie and Ross as friends (which I actually enjoyed) and it could have been written that Pete had nothing to be jealous of but he still lashed out at Ross. In fact this would have made Debbie's behaviour to Pete since finding out he nearly killed Ross more acceptable. Then if something had happened between them after he came out of hospital would also have been more believable.
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Old 06-09-2015, 14:07
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Give him a month and he'll be gone,
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Old 06-09-2015, 14:09
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I have to blame the writers. IMHO they thought the popularity of the Ross and Donna storyline could be duplicated using the Dingles (rather like they did with Aaron and Paddy). Unfortunately for a lot of fans of the show it has not worked. I remember cheering Ross humiliating Debbie when she threw herself at him. I can accept people can change their minds but, when Ross declared that Debbie was the "love of his life" it didn't ring true. We saw how desperate he was after Donna's death, the confusion, the not knowing and the anger at losing her was believable and well portrayed by the actor. So to suddenly be told that Donna was nothing compared to Debbie is actually quite insulting to the viewer.

My favourite Donna and Ross scene was when they were "flirting" in the pavilion. It was lovely, tender and beautifully acted. Not "look at us we're acting at realizing we're falling in love", just subtle enough for this viewer to believe something is happening here. I've not seen one scene like that between Debbie and Ross, everything has been as subtle as using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. I really do think they should have left Debbie and Ross as friends (which I actually enjoyed) and it could have been written that Pete had nothing to be jealous of but he still lashed out at Ross. In fact this would have made Debbie's behaviour to Pete since finding out he nearly killed Ross more acceptable. Then if something had happened between them after he came out of hospital would also have been more believable.
Well said! I like all three central characters, but none of them have come out of this well due to awful writing.
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Old 06-09-2015, 14:42
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I adore Ross Barton and Michael Parr who plays him. He's my favourite Emmerdale character. However I agree that when he was with Donna he was at his very best and his relationships he's had with Carly and Debbie don't come close. When he was less dependent on Debbie for his happiness he was much better. I did like the bare knuckle fighting though I must say Hopefully when Debbie leaves for a while he'll go back to how he was before he got with her. I really like his funny side more than him being miserable.
I liked him with Carly. But you've hit the nail on the head, it's his pathetic dependency on Debbie that turns me right off the whole thing (as well as the chemistry vaccuum and honkingly bad writing). He was never like that with Donna, it was much sparkier and more equal. And I hate to say it, but Michael Parr doesn't act pathetic dependency very convincingly either, Ross's behaviour around Debbie has just made me wince.

I wish that Ross would forget about Dour Debbie and move on.

But I think it could be c)
I wish that the writers would realise they are flogging a horse which has already made its way through the knackers' yard and into a dog food tin. But they won't.

My favourite Donna and Ross scene was when they were "flirting" in the pavilion. It was lovely, tender and beautifully acted. Not "look at us we're acting at realizing we're falling in love", just subtle enough for this viewer to believe something is happening here. I've not seen one scene like that between Debbie and Ross, everything has been as subtle as using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. I really do think they should have left Debbie and Ross as friends (which I actually enjoyed) and it could have been written that Pete had nothing to be jealous of but he still lashed out at Ross. In fact this would have made Debbie's behaviour to Pete since finding out he nearly killed Ross more acceptable. Then if something had happened between them after he came out of hospital would also have been more believable.
Yes, completely. It was always too soon after Donna to try to persuade the viewer that Ross had forgotten her, but it's been honkingly written, all heaving bosoms and naff "emoting", without once feeling real. Plus the terrible overdone PR attempts to get everyone to buy in - about 7 articles in 1 fortnight, telling us repeatedly that they were the new Cain and Charity. Yeah, Ms Oates, we'll decide if we like them or not. You ain't making this happen by banging everyone over the head with it.

*Laura*, your version, where Pete imagines the affair and goes bonkers with jealousy, would have been loads better. Bit like Othello as well, which is no bad thing.
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Old 06-09-2015, 15:13
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Why did Lawrence give him money?
To buy a new baseball bat. He has worn his old one out bashing people's heads in, which is about all this boring character does on screen.
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