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What have Pakistani daleks got to do with it? I think they might have showed that clip on the pilot show, and you cab argue whether it is or isn't racist, but it's got nothing to do with the point I was making.
They showed a clip of Milligan playing a bumpkin, with a West Country accent, and I think we were supposed to think this was an offensive stereotype. I can't say I was particularly shocked. |
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To be fair I think he's said on several occasions that he regrets doing the likes of The Black and White Minstrel Show now.
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I couldn't stand the faux shock/outrage of the nonentities commenting, whoever they were.
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This is the answer that the actor gives whenever it's mentioned now, but a lot of people were laughing at his lines as they represented their views.
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These kind of programmes are nothing more than filler programmes made on the cheap why people get shocked by these is beyond me, Stanley Baxter for instance was great then if it wasn't for the PC mob they would be shown now as repeats.
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How could Spike Milligan be racist? He was Indian!
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British, then Irish.
My mother was born in India at the same time - she is British, |
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Maybe he did, but doubt anybody here in Ireland would know he was an Irishman, our tax laws are much more relaxed than the Inland Revenue in the UK, so he made a good call on that basis.
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There were some interesting clips, which I would have like to have seen more of, rather than the gawping faces of non-entities. It's a bit like X-Factor, half the time having to look at reaction shots, otherwise we wouldn't know what to think.
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Maybe he did, but doubt anybody here in Ireland would know he was an Irishman, our tax laws are much more relaxed than the Inland Revenue in the UK, so he made a good call on that basis.
My mother managed to corner him [if you can on the Sussex cliffs] and ask him to sign a biography of him that she had bought me. He could be notoriously grumpy, but he said 'Of course Madam. What is his name?' I have a copy of Norma Farnes book with an inscription that says 'J*******, I have no f****** idea who you are, but I wish you well'.
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No doubt the usual array of white men of a certain age telling us it was all just a bit of fun
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It was soooo bad in the 70s. We'd never black up now (Paul Whitehouse as Mandela) or make sexist double entendres (Swiss Tony on The Fast Show / Julian Clary), or make fun of gays (Matt Lucas) or do jokes about the Nazis ('allo 'allo).
No wonder all the talking heads were so shocked, they've never seen anything like that recently. Well, they haven't been paid to appear shocked by it recently anyway, before this. Actually, the worst thing they showed was the Sex Ed film. Our TV has always been fairly mild, or ironic (I can't believe they used Alf Garnet as an example of racism, we were meant to be laughing at him, not with him). |
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I was born in 68 and grew up watching these shows. .when you watch them now they are outdated and some offensive. .but the mock outrage of what once was is wearing thin..yes most of these shows wouldn't be broadcast today. .and rightly so..but let's watch this as a history of tv..as opposed to mouth open horror.
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I was born in 68 and grew up watching these shows. .when you watch them now they are outdated and some offensive. .but the mock outrage of what once was is wearing thin..yes most of these shows wouldn't be broadcast today. .and rightly so..but let's watch this as a history of tv..as opposed to mouth open horror.
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Oh their not offensive. I watch them on DVD all the time.
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Nope!
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No doubt the usual array of white men of a certain age telling us it was all just a bit of fun
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Bump
Anyone watching this. Chris Tarrant asking a woman what knickers she was wearing. Blimey. |
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A new episode of this currently on now.
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These shocked nobodies obviously don't get out much.
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Maybe they could get Matt Lucas out of the narration soundbooth to film an insert justifying using transexuality for comedy ready for "It was alright in the Noughties" in 2045.
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On The Buses and the woman dancing with a snake.
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I couldn't stand the faux shock/outrage of the nonentities commenting, whoever they were.
I thought that, were they actors they would have been worthy of an OSCAR nomination. All that jaw dropping "Oh my God, oh my gracious, did they really allow that?" |
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Just saw a talking head acting shocked at Rigsby on Rising Damp uttering racist comments.
He was meant to display racist tendencies you idiot. People acting shocked at fictional characters who were designed to be racist characters as if the character is supposed to be representative of people in general. Why can't some of these people observe something with the nuance of context? This guy actually seemed to the think that the writer let his own casual racism slip out by accident through Rigsby. At least a couple of the talking heads were intelligent enough to understand what they were watching. With some of these talking heads though, can you imagine sitting down with them to watch a film with Hitler in it or something? Or what about a horror film where characters kill people. You know, just general characters played by actors who are supposed to be bad people by design. You'd end up traumatising them. |
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Curiously around the time these shows were first broadcast in the 70s and 80s there was an activist campaigner called Mary Whitehouse doing the rounds calling for everything in the media to be banned which she deemed to be offensive.
I'd be interested to see a clip of her pop up on one of these shows and see how these talking heads react to her. Which would probably be quite awkward for them because it would be a bit like looking in a mirror for them. And hardly anybody at the time would want to come across looking like Mary Whitehouse. |
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I love these "It was alright..." programmes, but they would be so much better without the idiot talking heads pulling shocked faces and exclaiming "Oh my god, I can't believe he just said/did that!" to every clip.
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