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No. He's a terrible teacher and can't even do the Latin dances well himself so it's impossible that he can teach them. Any celeb paired with him is a lost cause and just has to accept that.
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Maybe. I groaned when Katie was paired with him but it seems he has a fan base and so Katie may not be too much wasted on him if said fans propel him to the final stages.
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Maybe. I groaned when Katie was paired with him but it seems he has a fan base and so Katie may not be too much wasted on him if said fans propel him to the final stages.
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I feel really sorry for Kirsty Gallacher she could have done well this series, but Grandad DuBeck's dancing limitations will hold her back.
He should have been pensioned of a few series ago. Katie is with Anton
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Kirsty is with Brendan
Katie is with Anton ![]() You could see that Katie was excited, but poor Kirsty. |
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You could see that Katie was excited, but poor Kirsty.
It's Katy I feel sorry for. |
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Kirsty was very happy to be paired with Brendan, she said she wanted someone with a lot of experience.
It's Katy I feel sorry for. Poor Kirsty is probably blissfully unaware of the fate that awaits her. You can rest assured though that Anton is going to take good care Katy. |
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No. He's a terrible teacher and can't even do the Latin dances well himself so it's impossible that he can teach them. Any celeb paired with him is a lost cause and just has to accept that.
I beg to differ, his pupils always speak very highly of Anton, and his dancing skills are very wide ranging. |
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It might be telling this time for him . If Katie turns out to be super duper naturally then he has as good a chance as anyone . Sadly he has tended to have partners less than agile and has not had much chance to shine as a dance teacher .
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Anton's latin will always let him down and now his age is against him too - personally I find he will find it hard taking it seriously and not doing the comedy routines
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Anton's latin will always let him down and now his age is against him too - personally I find he will find it hard taking it seriously and not doing the comedy routines
Its a very competitive year IMO and it would be a great competition if the producer and judges wanted to let the chips fall where they may. |
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I expect Katie's overall level of dancing will exceed Chris Hollins' but they would still need the comedy to have a chance.
Proper Dances: Waltz Viennese Waltz Foxtrot American Smooth Tango Argentine Tango Paso Doble Rumba Samba Salsa Slightly Comedic: Quickstep Cha-Cha-Cha Jive Charleston (well, probably Very Comedic...) So, a 10/4 split (although probably 10/3 because I'm fairly sure the European Court of Human Rights has banned him from ever dancing the Jive ever again). |
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I think if Anton can strike the right mix of proper dancing and comedy then Katie might have a fighting chance. If he split it like so it could work:
Proper Dances: Waltz Viennese Waltz Foxtrot American Smooth Tango Argentine Tango Paso Doble Rumba Samba Salsa Slightly Comedic: Quickstep Cha-Cha-Cha Jive Charleston (well, probably Very Comedic...) So, a 10/4 split (although probably 10/3 because I'm fairly sure the European Court of Human Rights has banned him from ever dancing the Jive ever again). Maybe better to miss out the salsa or do it very early. |
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I expect Katie's overall level of dancing will exceed Chris Hollins' but they would still need the comedy to have a chance.
Its a very competitive year IMO and it would be a great competition if the producer and judges wanted to let the chips fall where they may. |
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Maybe better to miss out the salsa or do it very early.
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I think if Anton can strike the right mix of proper dancing and comedy then Katie might have a fighting chance. If he split it like so it could work:
Proper Dances: Waltz Viennese Waltz Foxtrot American Smooth Tango Argentine Tango Paso Doble Rumba Samba Salsa Slightly Comedic: Quickstep Cha-Cha-Cha Jive Charleston (well, probably Very Comedic...) So, a 10/4 split (although probably 10/3 because I'm fairly sure the European Court of Human Rights has banned him from ever dancing the Jive ever again). Most excellent news. I hope they've banned his jive clothing as well.
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I don't think Anton's lack of Jive ability is due to age or lack of practice, either - this was almost 13 years ago!
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I don't think Anton's lack of Jive ability is due to age or lack of practice, either - this was almost 13 years ago!
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Anton's dancing skills and talents are very wide ranging I have a feeling that they might go all the way too.
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On the contrary, Anton's dancing skills are very wide ranging, he can cope with anything thrown at him.
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I beg to differ, his pupils always speak very highly of Anton, and his dancing skills are very wide ranging.
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I don't believe that Anton has any lack of ability, his dancing skills on the dance floor are wide ranging.
I like Anton, and hope he stays for a good few more series, and actually really want Katie & Anton to win (mainly for Katie), but the fact remains that his Latin, while fair, is not to the same standard as the other pros. His Ballroom is excellent, and I predict some beautiful routines from them there with no issues, but aside from Paso Doble and Charleston, he will need aid with his Latin choreography and technique to get the best from Katie. In my opinion, it would mark him out as an excellent professional if he were to see Katie's needs, realise he can't quite meet them just yet, and ask for help. Asking for help isn't a sign of weakness, but of wisdom, and after all, isn't it the job of the professionals to do their best to help the celebs reach their full potential? If that requires extra tutelage on Anton's part and choreographic help, so be it, nobody would criticise him (well, I wouldn't).
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I'm sure that Anton would be able to teach Latin technique to a certain level (he doesn't have to be able to execute it brilliantly to do that, but just communicate the principles). So if Katie cannot master the basic technique that will not be down to him (I think sometimes he gets blamed for the shortcomings of his celebs). However, I think that there is a ceiling on what he can achieve with Katie, since part of teaching is demonstration and he won't be able to demonstrate more sophisticated technique or produce such imaginative choreography. So some outside help later on in the series wouldn't go amiss.
I think his ballroom is a bit old fashioned too (Strictly is very weak on ballroom dancers anyway). but I think he does try and teach basic good technique and not cut corners (celeb ability permitting). Having said all that, I'd quite like to see him in the final. It isn't to be taken too seriously and it would make a refreshing change for him to have a different story. I think it would be good for the series (the public know who he is and like him) |
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It might be useful for Anton and Kate to get as much Latin out of the way as soon as possible whilst the overall standard is low unless Kate turns out to be queen of the Latin beat
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I'm sure that Anton would be able to teach Latin technique to a certain level (he doesn't have to be able to execute it brilliantly to do that, but just communicate the principles). So if Katie cannot master the basic technique that will not be down to him (I think sometimes he gets blamed for the shortcomings of his celebs). However, I think that there is a ceiling on what he can achieve with Katie, since part of teaching is demonstration and he won't be able to demonstrate more sophisticated technique or produce such imaginative choreography. So some outside help later on in the series wouldn't go amiss.
I think his ballroom is a bit old fashioned too (Strictly is very weak on ballroom dancers anyway). but I think he does try and teach basic good technique and not cut corners (celeb ability permitting). Having said all that, I'd quite like to see him in the final. It isn't to be taken too seriously and it would make a refreshing change for him to have a different story. I think it would be good for the series (the public know who he is and like him) I'm sure the voting viewers at home would love to see Anton in the final Ann. |
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The thing is, everyone has a go at him for his jive BUT isn't it just that he is doing a different style of jive ie the G.I style used by ballroom dancers. If that's the case then that does not have kicks and flicks.
His party latin needs work but his paso is okay, a bit more aggression wouldn't come amiss. I liked the illegal lift he did with Laila, she looked like a flying cape, but they were marked down for it. |
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It might be useful for Anton and Kate to get as much Latin out of the way as soon as possible whilst the overall standard is low unless Kate turns out to be queen of the Latin beat
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I agree . At the moment it can be just as much about who the viewers like and the celebs can get away with quite a lot of errors . If latin might be a weak point then best get it out of the way on week one or two .
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Most excellent news. I hope they've banned his jive clothing as well.
I like Anton, and hope he stays for a good few more series, and actually really want Katie & Anton to win (mainly for Katie), but the fact remains that his Latin, while fair, is not to the same standard as the other pros. His Ballroom is excellent, and I predict some beautiful routines from them there with no issues, but aside from Paso Doble and Charleston, he will need aid with his Latin choreography and technique to get the best from Katie.