Before I start I want to say that I am not defending Farrah's actions, I am very aware that she has been very nasty at times in there and she is clearly a very unhappy individual with a lot of issues.

HOWEVER, I'm not sure if others on here have noticed that a lot of the time it's actually Jenna who starts the drama by planting the seed and telling Farrah what someone has said or done to upset her (for example; the Bobby argument) and then she sits back and watches as Farrah explodes and fights her battles for her. I liked Jenna at first but now I'm starting to see that she is actually very manipulative and uses Farrah to do her dirty work so that she doesn't get the flack for it.

If Jenna was REALLY a friend to Farrah surely rather than encouraging her to start arguments with people she would try to calm her down and tell her that it isn't worth it, right?

Giving this a bump as I'm curious to see people's opinions on this.

I think its glaringly obvious that Jenna is the puppet master.
J is no fool but Farrah is thicker than mince, imho.
I actually think that F. is not the full shilling.

disagree i think jenna is sly at least in her way farrah is up front.

Yes, I noticed the way Jenna would act when it comes to Farrah.

I think Jenna is very manipulative and a dominant personality in there. Even when she argues with other people in the house it always as to be on her terms. Maybe it comes from the sex world, there are Dominants and submissives. Jenna is the perfect example of a female Dominant.

Women don't have to be the one visibly fighting to hold a dominant position.

It's a real shame how shes using Farrah.

I'm not fan of Farrah either, and the quicker she gets voted off the better for everyone, including herself. Farrah seems one of these 'unintelligent' people who think they are intelligent and don't even realise how bad she's making herself look. Some people in life struggle because they are their own worst enemy.

Yes I have seen his on a few occasions even though I like Jenna she is the pot stirrer along with Austin & James!

Farrah is still very naïve in many ways & this is one of them. Also Jenna when she speaks people listen they won't take her on at all even Austin won't take Jenna on..Watch how Austin becomes a little boy while Jenna explains a few things to him!

Jenna is the alpha in this house by a million miles & that included the males!

When Jenna set Farrah off on Bobby I seen this! She is setting them up and allowing Farrah to pull trigger, you seen that when she bounced in dancing at the Natasha and Farrah argument - also she can shut Farrah down when it's her time to voice her opinion.....

I actually wish Tila was still in there she could demolish them both

I agree OP at some point I'm sure they will turn on each other

I actually don't think they will. I could be wrong but I think that Farrah genuinely likes Jenna and would be pretty lost in there without her. But as for Jenna I think it's definitely a case of keep your friends close but your enemies closer. Unless Farrah realises that which I don't think she's smart enough to, they'll stay allies.

Actually I think your right there pretty fair assessment of their relationship

Actually I think your right there pretty fair assessment of their relationship

I've seen her on more than one occasion calm her down rather than encourage her.

i agree jenna does push farrah to do that but i think farrah knows this anyway and because farrah loves to battle in an argument shes quite happy to defend jenna.

I see 2 women who have a lot in common and are looking out for one another.

The same as James and Austin except with shirts on...

They are the sort of people who give airheads a bad name.

You do have a point there, it does seem like Jenna is the only one in there who Farrah will actually listen to. I remember also in last nights show when Farrah was blocking Austin's view with her ass and only moved when Jenna told her to sit down. I'm only just beginning to realise how much power and authority Jenna actually has in there, she is a very smart woman.

You think she is "a very smart woman" because she tells Farrah to stop blocking Austin's view of her with her ass? I get the impression that if you asked Jenna how many fingers she has she would be flummoxed.

I've noticed Farrah "parroting" a few people in the house, and Jenna is one of them. Jenna may be toying with Farrah, trying to make her a bigger target in the house.

I know that I couldn't live in a house with Farrah, and would no doubt be figuring out how to get her out of the house.

No I think she is a smart woman because she can easily manipulate people but uses Farrah to do the screaming and shouting for her so that she doesn't get the backlash from the group. I used the Farrah and Austin situation as an example of how Jenna has an authority over Farrah.

I get your point, but a smart person would never get into those situations in the first place.

I've noticed that Jenna's influencing Farrah as well. It's now starting to become more obvious. Farrah claims she's this and that and yet she's being influenced by Jenna.

I too was expecting this unholy alliance to unravel spectacularly and am really surprised it has held together. I guess there is time yet but I would have expected it to have blown up by now.

And yes OP there have been occasions where Jenna has loaded the bullets and Farrah has done the shooting. The argument between Jenna and Bobby was an example of a fight that in my opinion, Farrah had but Jenna initiated. I don't know if Jenna intended that outcome or not though. To be fair there are plenty of occasions where Jenna has loaded the gun herself and others (to continue the metaphor) where she has found a gun lying around and has used it, seemingly for no other reason than she found it lying around.

Even when they're COMPLETELY in the wrong. They're a tag team and they're both as bad as each other.