I didn't even watch last night. If I get a chance I might catch up today but, going on previous experience:

Austin and Natasha are the least likeable and sneakiest characters in there and were bitching about Farrah before they'd even once spoken to her.

The editing on the night of the wardrobe incident was shockingly biased.

The entire premise of the show (from selecting Gail, Sherrie and Chloe versus Janice, Jenna and Farrah - really?!?!?) is to show the UK hms are mild-mannered sweethearts and the Americans are screeching harpies. No matter what happens - that's the storyline that's being followed here.

It's hilarious.

Calm down dear its only a trashy tv show no more real than jeremy kyle get a bit of perspective.

I don't think it's unreasonable for Natasha to complain about Jenna taking control of the food situation. Clearly from what we did see, Jenna believes her team had not just the right to control the budget but even that the Brits should be grateful they're getting to eat it. Why shouldn't someone react to that level of dominance and divisiveness?

That argument wouldn't have got off the ground if Jenna hadn't been so aggressive and domineering, calling people "mother*****s" and telling them to back off while at the same time saying she wasn't angry (m'kay). She DID have a shitty attitude and Natasha was bold to call her on it cos Jenna is intimidating. James walked out because she talked over him (Ive watched it twice and he could barely get a word out before Jenna got really arsey with him, which led Natasha to feel isolated) and Scoop started shouting because he couldn't get a word in either (which Natasha was right to walk away from; by that point she probably felt rattled by Jenna mouthing off, Farrah piping up from the corner and now Scoop shouting his head off).

Jenna seems to feed off negativity IMO. She looks for ways to be pissed off. She was straight into the kitchen complaining when Bobby said her wine had been opened. And you only had to see her weird little dance while Farrah and Natasha were in full flow to see that she loves a good ruck. So editing or not, whether someone else makes an opening salvo or not, if Jenna is involved and her acolyte is around, fur's gonna fly.

If I was in there I'd be tucking into the kosher wine as soon as it arrived.

Tough luck.

And that's why the Brits can't be trusted with the food or wine ordering. They won't be fair.

even last week when they had the luxury good and the servants got scraps they didn't want the others to get much. And it's the same again. Greedy and incapable of sharing

Expect much worse to come in the campaign to have natasha demonised. She is now the only HM i will part money with to save.

Of course it does lol

I don't think she needs effort to be demonised, I got her number on the first night.

How is the OP explaining what wasn't shown with Natasha's role in what happened demonising her?

What appears to be happening is that we are getting a very unfair edit which favours the Brits and demonises the Americans, which in turn distorts perception.

Of course how people conduct themselves in there would be open to scrutiny itself, so plenty of people won't like the way Farrah carries herself anyway therefore there's no need for BB to force the issue that the British are the goodies and the Americans are the baddies. But they are. They're deliberately trying to ensure that we see both groups in the way that they want us to see them.

Have at it. Maybe you can father her fifth child.

Crikey.

There are people who are believing Natasha is a 'good guy'?

I came away from last nights ep under the impression that Natasha was the instigator by robbing wine deliberately and not giving a shit.

Wonder if they will show them hiding the wine on tonights show.?...... no i dont think so..

How hard is it to behave like rational adults and just share the wine out fairly?

Gripes about food happen every year without this uproar happening. Natasha had every right to approach Scoop about it. That Jenna reacted so badly and set her deranged sidekick on Natasha was her fault.
These screeching screaming incoherent fits that Farrah specialises in belong in a locked ward, not an entertainment show.

I agree that big brother are often editing the show badly and leaving out parts of the arguments that are important. But they always do this and i really don't see any evidence that they are trying to make "the Americans" look bad. They didn't show Jenna saying a lot of things that would have made her look much worse, when she was talking like the food was hers and the Brits should be grateful they're getting any.

There is only one aggressive person in there and that is Farah, the rest have their faults but they are fairly normal people. Farah has some serious anger issues.

That is what started the big argument off, and she knew it would that's why she opened the bottle up and passed it round, but people wont see that because it's Natasha (British good) and Americans (bad).

I don't get this how did she "rob" the wine. The food belongs to all of them.

If you had actually bothered to listen to Natasha's complaint to Scoop though it was based on the shopping not being done in a structured way to allow meals to be produced. It's fine ordering lots of special requests for people after all but if none of those things can be combined into a meal then it makes rationing the way scoop was talking about doing difficult

I don't think she does have much right. Because some of the Brits have described the Americans as greedy and selfish. I think it might have been Natasha herself who said that. Then that's what the viewers are led to believe. Which in turn increases the resentment towards the Americans.
Yet the British housemates spoke about giving the Americans scraps of food when they were in charge, and it appears to be an almost nightly event where some of the Brits try to hoard alcohol and prevent the Americans getting it.

You can't complain of others being selfish and greedy when you yourself demonstrate those exact same traits.
Chris actually said "F**k the Americans" when they were trying to take all the alcohol for themselves. That's how much belief the Brits have in not being selfish and greedy.

You really need to watch last night's show. There was nothing mild mannered or sweet heart like about Natasha.

What I find hilarious is the way some are using footage that isn't hidden by the way as we do know about it as the supposed answer to everything. Allowing them to vilify the HMs they believe are getting off lightly and in turn let off lightly the HMs they like.

Even if we saw Natasha taking Scoop to task about whatever why would that make everything else that followed ok Ditto the LF the other night. When I watched it I had an inkling that Austin and James had moved clothes around and greatly upset people. Still it was the reaction that was ridiculous, over the top and completely unnecessary.

Are people seriously saying that the reaction from Farrah last night EG was perfectly reasonable becaus Natasha spoke to Scoop or because Austin said something inflamatory, if he did

There is always the edit cry and I actually think this year ironically it has done Jenna and Farrah fans a favour as seemingly they can be exonerated all of the time because apparently Natasha or more usually Austin did something really bad but it's not been shown. Now that is what really is hilarious this year.

In that conversation didn't Jenna say to Natasha that she obliged a request for something on the shopping list that Natasha herself asked for?

I suspect that if the Americans didn't oblige these special food requests then they would be castigated for that too.
It's Big Brother, if people can find anything to use as a weapon against their rivals then they will.

Maybe read the rest of my post which explains what I said lol

Jenna is of the Jewish faith and has kosher food and wine, that's why she has that separate little fridge in the kitchen the one that Janice decided to take the celery from for her food, and when they get drinks supplied Jenna gets a bottle of kosher wine they all know this, the other HMs all get beer spirits and wine but Jenna has the kosher bottle, but not when Natasha's around.

Did Natasha really say to Jenna "Who made you the food police"?
Well if so that's an easy answer. Scoop. He's the President isn't he?