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A post about Gail Porter
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rolergirl
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Well if you are watching the same show i am, then you're seeing what I'm seeing surely”

you start another pro-Gail thread and refuse to accept any one elses opinions but your own, even arguing with people..are they not allowed their opinion?
wotnot
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Not at all

Im indicating that people shouldn't be unreasonable with the amount of venom being thrown.

Aim it at the people that deserve it, with no moral fibre

Not someone who is already struggling. Thats masochistic”

But you are stating that - Gail doesn't have to win, thats not my point. But supporting her through this and not turning on her for 'crying a little bit too much' (a pathetic excuse to dislike someone IMO)
is something we should be thinking about
Damon_Plembury
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by tmj:
“Dear,

A lousy housemate is one who refuses to engage in what is going on around them, for fear of looking bad. Gail herself said she'd have pulled Farrah's hair if she was out of the house. Which indicates she's putting on an act just to placate public opinion. That makes her a bad housemate, one who is all too aware of the cameras and public perception.”

Gail doesn't engage? So all this emotion isn't engaging with the house?

Ill tell you who isn't engaging

James Hill

Flatlining to the extreme but loved by the viewers because he's fit innit
this_THAT
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by tmj:
“Dear,

A lousy housemate is one who refuses to engage in what is going on around them, for fear of looking bad. Gail herself said she'd have pulled Farrah's hair if she was out of the house. Which indicates she's putting on an act just to placate public opinion. That makes her a bad housemate, one who is all too aware of the cameras and public perception.”

pull her hair is just an expression its not an act, like chris said he would chin an american.... letting of steam after an argument.
Damon_Plembury
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“But you are stating that - Gail doesn't have to win, thats not my point. But supporting her through this and not turning on her for 'crying a little bit too much' (a pathetic excuse to dislike someone IMO)
is something we should be thinking about
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No I'm not

You're making out that I'm telling you support as in support to win

Im asking people to support her as in be a crutch, don't hinder her, don't kick her when she's down. Be decent as a human
wotnot
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Well if you are watching the same show i am, then you're seeing what I'm seeing surely”

Are you familiar with the word perception?

It seems to me you are incapable of accepting that others might have a different opinion to you, that's incredibly intolerant.
Damon_Plembury
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by rolergirl:
“you start another pro-Gail thread and refuse to accept any one elses opinions but your own, even arguing with people..are they not allowed their opinion?”

They are allowed an opinion, just as I'm allowed to challenge it if its unreasonable.

I started this thread because the last one got closed (for reasons un known)
tmj
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Gail doesn't engage? So all this emotion isn't engaging with the house?

Ill tell you who isn't engaging

James Hill

Flatlining to the extreme but loved by the viewers because he's fit innit”

No, she doesn't really engage. She cries and retreats into herself, or scurries around replacing cushions.

I dislike James, but he does get somewhat involved. I can't stand Austin either, but he also engages.
Damon_Plembury
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“Are you familiar with the word perception?

It seems to me you are incapable of accepting that others might have a different opinion to you, that's incredibly intolerant.”

This isn't about me so stop trying to derail the thread by making it about me.

What is intolerant is not understanding that we aren't all as strong as you. We don't all deal with life the same way.

Being filmed in a house doesn't make you fair game to be targeted by intolerance
wotnot
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“No I'm not

You're making out that I'm telling you support as in support to win

Im asking people to support her as in be a crutch, don't hinder her, don't kick her when she's down. Be decent as a human”

This is becoming irrational. I can't be her crutch, I don't know the woman and I haven't kicked her while she was down and I haven't said anything nasty and I am a decent human being, blooming heck!
tmj
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by this_THAT:
“pull her hair is just an expression its not an act, like chris said he would chin an american.... letting of steam after an argument.”

Maybe so, maybe she didn't mean she would literally pull her hair, but she strongly indicated that she would have reacted very differently had they been out of the house.
flowerpowa
08-09-2015
As soon as I knew that Gale was entering the house, I thought Oh no! this isn't a good idea, the poor woman will never be able to handle the situations she is going to have to face. I can understand her needing the money but to be so miserable and unhappy in the house, it not worth it, she is very fragile.
Damon_Plembury
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by tmj:
“No, she doesn't really engage. She cries and retreats into herself, or scurries around replacing cushions.

I dislike James, but he does get somewhat involved. I can't stand Austin either, but he also engages.”

Disagree

Gail to me engages fully

Is conflict the thing that makes a housemate interesting or valid these days?

Because she actively tries to not get involved with conflict she is pointless and doesn't engage?

This says so much about the mentality of the viewership these days
wotnot
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“This isn't about me so stop trying to derail the thread by making it about me.

What is intolerant is not understanding that we aren't all as strong as you. We don't all deal with life the same way.

Being filmed in a house doesn't make you fair game to be targeted by intolerance”

You are arguing with anyone who doesn't see things your way, you even suggested I should agree with you because I watched the same show as you. That's incredible intolerance for the opinions of others. How you conduct yourself and your responses to other posters is relevant.
tmj
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Disagree

Gail to me engages fully

Is conflict the thing that makes a housemate interesting or valid these days?

Because she actively tries to not get involved with conflict she is pointless and doesn't engage?

This says so much about the mentality of the viewership these days”

Where did I say that?

Gail, who couldn't even handle having the Americans serve her during that task and sat comatose on the couch hidden in her hoodie (crying about it, too). No, she doesn't engage.
Damon_Plembury
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“This is becoming irrational. I can't be her crutch, I don't know the woman and I haven't kicked her while she was down and I haven't said anything nasty and I am a decent human being, blooming heck! ”

Be her crutch as in don't persecute her for going on a TV show and being emotional.

Thats supportive. What isn't supportive is mocking her for crying, or telling her she's pathetic and shouldn't be in there

What kind of person does that to another human
Dave_62
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Gail Porter is a strong woman

Resilient and a fighter.

Gail has BiPolar, Depression, Insomnia, OCD, All massive issues to take into a house like that.

She is in the house with provocative, aggressive, loud people.

The very nature of the game is dealing with rejection. Something any normal person struggles with let alone someone who has been through a tough time.

Ive seen Gail be called Pointless?

The show is about looking at people from all walks of life and how they deal with each other and the game.

Gail has become emotional and often irritable.

This hasn't been (as some have said) for attention, or for pity

Its an incredibly unusual environment for anyone. For someone with BiPolar it must be nigh on overwhelming.

'She shouldn't be in there then'

Why?

Are people with mental health issues not allowed to do the things you do? Is that Prejudiced?

Meek, emotional, invested, trusting, irritable

All words id use to describe Gail, none of which are in anyway worthy of some of the vitriol I've seen thrown at her.

Whilst the Good looking men in the house sail through (as they sail through life) not doing much, flatlining, getting by on the female viewership fancying them.

Gail is showing you raw, true emotion. The real her

She's not perfect

She's just deeply deeply human. And if we can't deal with that then its probably a reflection of us as a society.

This may be a dramatic post, but mental health and the stigma surrounding it is something I'm deeply passionate about.

Humiliating and degrading someone who has chosen to share their entire personality with you, no matter how flawed or sensitive is in my opinion truly disgusting

She had been asked to participate in Big Brother and offered a hefty sum of money to do so.

Like any jobbing person, when someone offers you a job, you would be a fool to turn it down.

She had obviously seen the show before, knew how it works etc.

But signing up for it doesn't make her 'fair game' as I've heard people say. This isn't a witch hunt.

Gail doesn't have to win, thats not my point. But supporting her through this and not turning on her for 'crying a little bit too much' (a pathetic excuse to dislike someone IMO)
is something we should be thinking about

I would appreciate if people didn't try to derail this thread by picking up on Grammar mistakes etc.

Focus on the issues”

And she's a crap housemate.
rhizo_mania
08-09-2015
Going on a show like BB HMs and viewers surely know they will be pulled apart, praised, loved, hated,and condemned by viewers on this sight and all other social media to do with BB.
Damon_Plembury
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by tmj:
“Maybe so, maybe she didn't mean she would literally pull her hair, but she strongly indicated that she would have reacted very differently had they been out of the house.”

As many many many many many housemates have done over the years
honeythewitch
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by tmj:
“Dear,

A lousy housemate is one who refuses to engage in what is going on around them, for fear of looking bad. Gail herself said she'd have pulled Farrah's hair if she was out of the house. Which indicates she's putting on an act just to placate public opinion. That makes her a bad housemate, one who is all too aware of the cameras and public perception.”

Or she is following the rules and doesn't want to be slung out?
rolergirl
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“This is becoming irrational. I can't be her crutch, I don't know the woman and I haven't kicked her while she was down and I haven't said anything nasty and I am a decent human being, blooming heck! ”

op lied and accused me of disliking her for her menal illnesses before, unless we say Gail is a saint and the sun shines out of her shorts then we we will keep getting accused of not liking her for her illnesses or being horrible or being bullies...this thread will go the same way as your last because you want it all your way.
Damon_Plembury
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by flowerpowa:
“As soon as I knew that Gale was entering the house, I thought Oh no! this isn't a good idea, the poor woman will never be able to handle the situations she is going to have to face. I can understand her needing the money but to be so miserable and unhappy in the house, it not worth it, she is very fragile.”

Farrah is miserable. Jenna and Austin and Janice are miserable and unhappy in the house.

Gail isn't fragile. She's dealing with it. Its the viewers that can't deal with her
Damon_Plembury
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“You are arguing with anyone who doesn't see things your way, you even suggested I should agree with you because I watched the same show as you. That's incredible intolerance for the opinions of others. How you conduct yourself and your responses to other posters is relevant.”

Ima arguing against intolerance and unreasonable language against her

Your seriously telling me that she deserves all of the venom being thrown at her for being a bit emotional?

Its completely bonkers

You may not agree with me about her but you could surely see my point
Damon_Plembury
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by rolergirl:
“op lied and accused me of disliking her for her menal illnesses before, unless we say Gail is a saint and the sun shines out of her shorts then we we will keep getting accused of not liking her for her illnesses or being horrible or being bullies...this thread will go the same way as your last because you want it all your way.”

I haven't lied because my comments weren't directed at you personally they were directed at the viewership
Damon_Plembury
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by rolergirl:
“op lied and accused me of disliking her for her menal illnesses before, unless we say Gail is a saint and the sun shines out of her shorts then we we will keep getting accused of not liking her for her illnesses or being horrible or being bullies...this thread will go the same way as your last because you want it all your way.”

See this is what I'm on about. Ive accepted you don't like her and I've tried to argue my points with you. Its called a debate.

But because I'm making some valid points all you can do is threaten to have my thread closed or make out like I'm targeting you
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