Earlier you were stating about how people shouldn't kick her while she was down, shouldn't say horrible things about her etc should be supportive and be a crutch for her and now she isn't fragile, if that's the case ...

Actually I am seeing something here...

You keep mentioning all this venom being thrown against her. Disliking and claiming a housemate is boring and should leave, or not up to BB, is not throwing venom. They're standard critiques used on many other previous HMs

James is boring and should leave

So brave

She's passive aggressive. She uses cleaning and tears to manipulate people. Give me a good honest tongue lashing from Farrah over a cry baby any day.

Twisting my words to suit your argument now

I said that actively attempting to humiliate and degrade a person with mental health issues isn't on.

However Gail is strong and has got through life. That doesn't mean she can handle being targeted so heavily for criticism especially when she's done nothing to warrant it

You're just ignore the fact she has OCD

Are you that cynical and determined that anyone who shows an ounce of humility and emotional vulnerability is trying to pull the wool over your eyes?

Have we become so cynical?

Brilliant post with lots of great points. Thank you very much Damon!

they WERE directed to ME,, in your last thread you quoted me, and said "you dislike her because of her mental health issues".....so dont try and wriggle out of it now, i was very insulted, and if that is the only way you can win an argument is by twisting what people have said, putting words in their mouth then lying then no wonder no one is agreeig with you and your threads are being shut down!!!

if anyone actually believes she crying to manipulate people

that's sad.

by all means don't like her but that's just not true.

You misinterpreted my intention I'm sorry if you were so 'insulted'

I was meaning the viewership

Can we move on now

sense at last. Thank you for being you

She is very uncomfortable to watch, she is fragile and it shows, it must upset her family. I feel very sorry for her and hope that she is O.K when she comes out of the house.

But just because its uncomfortable to watch doesn't mean we should shy away from it.

Thats life, life is uncomfortable.

All the screaming and arguing makes me uncomfortable, as does all the romances.

But i don't demand that they be taken from my sight. I don't turn my back or avert my eyes

When did life become so offensive to people.

You mean like Gail is demanding Chloe and Stevi do?

If she has OCD she can clean as much as she likes, just don't use it to make other people feel bad. Nobody asked her to clean; she chose to. She shouldn't inflict her OCD on other people, nor her emotional fragility for that matter - it's not their problem.

Thats Gails Problem not mine

Are you saying James is fit and Gail is a moose?

And people disliking Gail on CBB is her problem too, not yours.

You're just going around incircles. You aren't going to derail the fact that the comments online about Gail are uncalled for and the attitudes towards her are beyond unreasonable.

So you may try and trip me up or be smart all you like

The only reason i can assume you're doing this is because you can see i have a point

Gail is beautiful. Where did you draw that conclusion

Direct quotes from you -

No one is twisting your words, I am just challenging them. I am not asking you to stop supporting Gail but I do think that your posts show intolerance against the views of others and you change the nature of your argument to try to alter peoples perception.

So what is it, is Gail a vulnerable person who we aren't allowed to judge based on her time in the house because we should judge her on her past and her condition and her issues be a crutch for her?

Or is she a strong woman who has been through so much and doesn't need our pity?

The two contradict one another.

I dislike her, simple as that. She's done nothing to entertain me and she hasn't come across as a particularly nice person. Nothing to do with any issues she may have

No, I don't think you have a point. In fact, I think you've contradicted yourself throughout the thread.

What has Gail done that so bad in the house for you to judge her so harshly?

She's cried a lot. So what? Its not a bad trait.

My two points don't contradict each other at all

You are refusing to acknowledge that anyone who comes out of a mental breakdown deserves respect in the very least.

She's strong for having beat it

She does however still have many self loathing issues that really shouldn't be exasperated by intolerant people who are determined to kick her while she's down

Oh please, no strength was needed. She took one look at the money offered and that was enough to convince her to go in. It's got nothing to do with battling back. The majority of anybody's Big Brother experience is about sitting on your ass and having a cup of tea, it's easy money that anybody would take, including those with mental health problems.