What you think and what the facts are, are two very different things. I haven't contradicted myself once

And once again you fail to debate the issue and turn the bashing onto me

Classic distraction tactic

Gail is uncomfortable with herself, anyone can see that.

Damon, Im not against Gail per se, but what I don't understand is your posting about "kicking her when shes down" and other very emotive comments.

In my opinion folk are not "kicking her when shes down" - as she can not read this discussion, she is on a gameshow in the BB House - we are merely having a discussion on the pro's and cons of some of the housemates. You say "support her as a crutch" - how is she going to be supported by our discussion, if it is positive - how can "we" ever be a crutch to her?

Some folk don't warm to her - nothing to do with her depression, alopecia or whatever, but merely because she doesn't appeal to them for whatever reason - much as we are all subjective in our liking and disliking any other person, book, film, poem, car or anything really.

Ive got to say it nearly seems as if you feel that by discussing her in a negative manner, as all of the other housemates have been discussed in varying degrees, we are in some way nasty people, or that we are affecting her personally. Its not as serious as that - its just a discussion on a forum - some folk appeal to some people more than others...........nothing dramatic in that.

Its easy to be in a house with narcism?

Its easy to be in a house with aggressive, manipulative, two faces people?

Its easy to be back stabbed and isolated?

Its easy to have people you've never met judge the one moral of dialogue you have in an edited 45 minute day and base your entire existence, being and personality on it?

Its easy to be slagged off and hated and scorned.

Even the ones not struggling with mental health would find that incredibly testing

Why don't you try it out and see how you get on?

You said people only like James because he is fit, therefore Implying that Gail isn't, because she is less popular.

No one is telling her anything, she cant hear us in there. No one is persecuting her, she cant hear us in there. Its a discussion.

she will read this no doubt.

By commenting 'she's fake', 'she's manipulative' 'looking for pity' etc etc

That isn't going to help anyone with their issues

Its going to exasperate and make them worse.

The nastiness is completely disproportionate to what she's actually done.

How have I judged her harshly?

Have I said anywhere that she doesn't deserve respect for having overcome a mental breakdown? I know nothing about her mental illness so I haven't commented on it.

The fact is that she is in a reality show where she is being judged for herself and what she shows the public of herself, what I have seen thus far has not impressed me or made me warm to her at all.

And I am sorry but I do think you have contradicted yourself several times which won't help when you are trying so hard to make everyone agree with you.

It is not easy for anyone to live in those conditions, but I think you do Gail Porter and others a disservice by implying that they are too fragile to cope, and should be treated differently.
I imagine that most who battle mental illness or stress just want to be treated like everyone else, because most of the time they ARE like everyone else.

In my opinion it takes more strength to be open about your fears and weaknesses than to hide them.

Isn't that what Gail is doing. But it seems the more open she is the more criticism she gets online.

Accusing her of fake crying for votes is just despicable. It really is

Done here now.

I'm not 'bashing' you. I'm not 'bashing' Gail.

I tried to explain to you why I (and probably other people) see her as a bad housemate. And if you look back, I think you'll find you did contradict yourself (as others here have stated).

Show me were I've contradicted myself please?

I already did that and you chose to ignore it, fortunately it's up there ^ for all to see.

I think I am done here too.

Must have missed it because i fail to see how I've contradicted myself.

Nice to see you retreat in defeat

Brilliant post OP and I agree she is stronger than many think and is coping in her own way pulls herself together and gets on with it. Loving Gail for that.

So it's ok for you to comment negatively about other housemates then. I quite like gail but you come across as a bit hypocritical

It seems to me that is exactly what she is doing, and she doesn't need to be treated with kid gloves.
If she behaves like an arse let her get called an arse, the same as everyone else.

Its a discussion not a competition, Damon.

Awesome

But crying isn't behaving like an arse

I am not suggesting it is, Far from it in fact, But people will have different views.

You remind me of some kind of Preacher on a Mission.

Indeed but those different views shouldn't be that she's an arse for crying? That to me is unreasonable

Not really. "If" the interpretation is that she was using her tears to gain sympathy, then you would think she was an arse. (I dont)
Likewise some people will find James fascinating, some wont. (I am underwhelmed)

Love gail to Mollie. Inspiring woman

I find that terribly rude and if not, at best condscending