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Does Jenna really understand Big Brother?
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grayflower
08-09-2015
Jenna wants to eliminate competitors.

Jenna wants the Americans to be together, regardless of the fact that nationality is baloney, and that some HMs like Austen for example, have strong ties to the UK.

Jenna can nominate the entire UK team, but that has little to do with who will be eliminated.

As Jenna steams along, with her crusade during this trifling 'battle' of baloney nationality against baloney nationality, just how many Brits is she pissing off? Not sure that's the way to win BB??

And finally, can the Americans vote to save/evict??


Mrs Checks
08-09-2015
I think that she is confused between the US version of the show and also how hyped the 'US v UK' theme was in the beginning, which has given her the false impression that it is more integral to the game structure than it actually is.

Also, she just seems like an extremely competitive person.
Luxray
08-09-2015
I think she's used to BBUSA where eliminating strong competitors/gameplaying/alliances are a very big part of the show. On BBUK it's ultimately just a popularity contest, which I think she's forgetting.
Scarlett Berry
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by Mrs Checks:
“I think that she is confused between the US version of the show and also how hyped the 'US v UK' theme was in the beginning, which has given her the false impression that it is more integral to the game structure than it actually is.

Also, she just seems like an extremely competitive person.”

Excellent summation Mrs. Checks.
ForGodsSake
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by Luxray:
“I think she's used to BBUSA where eliminating strong competitors/gameplaying/alliances are a very big part of the show. On BBUK it's ultimately just a popularity contest, which I think she's forgetting.”

If it's a popularity contest then she won't win if she keeps the "us and them" bit going..
Mrs Checks
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Excellent summation Mrs. Checks.”

Thank you Scarlett
Luxray
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“If it's a popularity contest then she won't win if she keeps the "us and them" bit going..”

and saying "I know I'm going nowhere" (or words to that effect) the other day won't gain her many fans!
grayflower
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“If it's a popularity contest then she won't win if she keeps the "us and them" bit going..”

Also, Jenna is constantly like "don't ______________ me......or else", or, "she better watch out.....". There's that constant threat implied. Oh what can she do? Kill someone? Thug behaviour isn't going to get someone to win, unless it's Helen Woods, of course.
grayflower
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by Luxray:
“and saying "I know I'm going nowhere" (or words to that effect) the other day won't gain her many fans!”


She doesn't understand the British culture at all. But then, she's used to being adored and admired endlessly....I'd never heard of her before though....perhaps it's me who is unaware.
An Thropologist
08-09-2015
Oh yes I think she has totally misunderstood the game and what it takes to win. It seems she thinks the objective is to eliminate as many of the other team as possible. Presumably she thinks the team with the most standing at the end will win.

I think when you look at things through that frame her behaviours are explaianable and excusable and to me quite comical. I am hoping BB comes up with something this week that really challenges the mind set she currently has. Watching her process that and maybe seeing the penny drop would be most interesting.
Panda Eyes
08-09-2015
I don't think it matters. Someone (could've been Daniel Baldwin) said that she's playing it like she's played her professional life and she got autonomy and a shed load of money from that racket. She's doing it her way, and the radar dodgers are doing it their way.
grayflower
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Oh yes I think she has totally misunderstood the game and what it takes to win. It seems she thinks the objective is to eliminate as many of the other team as possible. Presumably she thinks the team with the most standing at the end will win.

I think when you look at things through that frame her behaviours are explaianable and excusable and to me quite comical. I am hoping BB comes up with something this week that really challenges the mind set she currently has. Watching her process that and maybe seeing the penny drop would be most interesting.”

I think you're right.....but, why on earth doesn't someone explain to her how it works here, for real? Not a single person has said to her "look love, it's not about how many are left standing, it's about who wins the public over as they suffer the painful slings and arrows of BB humiliation...."

I'd defect to the other side, even though I am anti-nationality....she makes me that infuriated. Imagine being on a team with someone who just didn't get the game.

As Chloe would say: "it's hurtful, deeply upsetting and mean-spirited".
rhizo_mania
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by Luxray:
“and saying "I know I'm going nowhere" (or words to that effect) the other day won't gain her many fans!”


That kind of comment would matter if she was in civilian BB, Daniel Baldwin got the winners place in CBB first out and paid.
Panda Eyes
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by rhizo_mania:
“That kind of comment would matter if she was in civilian BB, Daniel Baldwin got the winners place in CBB first out and paid.”

I agree. First out can be such a blessing. Out of madhouse, out of the scrutiny, out of any possibility of ruining your brand/reputation. Paid in FULL, thank you very much
An Thropologist
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by grayflower:
“I think you're right.....but, why on earth doesn't someone explain to her how it works here, for real? :confused: Not a single person has said to her "look love, it's not about how many are left standing, it's about who wins the public over as they suffer the painful slings and arrows of BB humiliation...."

I'd defect to the other side, even though I am anti-nationality....she makes me that infuriated. Imagine being on a team with someone who just didn't get the game.

As Chloe would say: "it's hurtful, deeply upsetting and mean-spirited". ”

Well if they do I pray there is a camera there at the time.

ETA Defecting would be a superbly smart move. Its a British show, playing to a British audience and with British voters. A cynical step over the rubicon would win her loads of votes/ Something I think Austin is well aware of.
Panda Eyes
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Well if they do I pray there is a camera there at the time.

ETA Defecting would be a superbly smart move. Its a British show, playing to a British audience and with British voters. A cynical step over the rubicon would win her loads of votes/ Something I think Austin is well aware of.”

Doesn't he just?! He'll be wearing Union Flag earrings like Michelle Visage soon enough!
rhizo_mania
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist
Well if they do I pray there is a camera there at the time.

ETA Defecting would be a superbly smart move. Its a British show, playing to a British audience and with British voters. A cynical step over the rubicon would win her loads of votes/ Something I think Austin is well aware of.
Doesn't he just?! He'll be wearing Union Flag earrings like Michelle Visage soon enough!

Austin is so desperate to impress sticking with the Americans and hanging with the limeys, he's like a dog with two dicks.
firefly_irl
08-09-2015
I actually wish more people would attempt some form of strategy other than the fake BS we get and then crown a winner on the basis of.

She wants to win through winning a game whereas on BB UK you win by just appealing to the lowest common denominator in society.
An Thropologist
08-09-2015
Originally Posted by firefly_irl:
“I actually wish more people would attempt some form of strategy other than the fake BS we get and then crown a winner on the basis of.

She wants to win through winning a game whereas on BB UK you win by just appealing to the lowest common denominator in society.”

I think they do, well some do. The trouble is the audience make it difficult. What works to make you popular in the house and avoid noms doesn't play well necessarily with the audience and what plays well with voters often goes down badly with fellow HMS. That is what makes the game devilishly hard to play strategically and why it is so bloody brilliant. And is also why the production don't need to keep fiddling they just distort the subtle complexity to the detriment of everyone.
grayflower
09-09-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Well if they do I pray there is a camera there at the time.

ETA Defecting would be a superbly smart move. Its a British show, playing to a British audience and with British voters. A cynical step over the rubicon would win her loads of votes/ Something I think Austin is well aware of.”

Austen was amazing with the hair-shaving....it was quite hilarious. And then he announced the nom for Gail! Wow! I know he went with Gail, over James....he loves James.

Austen should defect. I go between liking him and hating him....he's a bit rabid at times, but he's also keen to engage more on a human level than on this dumb imposed nationality vs nationality scenario.
grayflower
09-09-2015
Originally Posted by firefly_irl:
“I actually wish more people would attempt some form of strategy other than the fake BS we get and then crown a winner on the basis of.

She wants to win through winning a game whereas on BB UK you win by just appealing to the lowest common denominator in society.”

I don't think she understands the dynamics of the house vs editing vs public vs voting though....that's the issue. She comes across (editing?) as a nutter, like she's in a life or death situation. She's not....and as Austen said, she's very guarded. What do we know about her? What does she talk about other than her boring "we are Americans" drivel? Then again, maybe she's much more rounded, and BB is only showing her when she's nuts. But if this were the case, the tension between her and the UK HMs offers some evidence of her focus on winning. Winning and wanting to win is great, but surely she can do better than her current method?
HailHenrik
09-09-2015
I think the main problem is the way the producers have sold the show to them and they are all caught up in a "Uk v US" battle when anyone who has seen the shows knows it's just a nonsense tagline like "Secrets and lies" etc.
Penny Crayon
09-09-2015
Originally Posted by grayflower:
“I don't think she understands the dynamics of the house vs editing vs public vs voting though....that's the issue. She comes across (editing?) as a nutter, like she's in a life or death situation. She's not....and as Austen said, she's very guarded. What do we know about her? What does she talk about other than her boring "we are Americans" drivel? Then again, maybe she's much more rounded, and BB is only showing her when she's nuts. But if this were the case, the tension between her and the UK HMs offers some evidence of her focus on winning. Winning and wanting to win is great, but surely she can do better than her current method? ”

Well she's currently ranting on un edited LF. Both Farrah and Jenna seem totally confused and quite oblivious to how BB works in the UK. TBH - I really don't see the point of promoting the show as USv.s GB - there can only be one winner and the whole team thing has nothing to do with who will be crowned winner. It is purely to promote conflict.
Arthur_B
09-09-2015
I think she's basing her ideas on the show on what she knows about BB from watching it in the USA. US BB is extremely focused on alliances, game plans, tactics, eliminating competition, and so on and so forth. To her, the "game" element seems far more important than just being around new people and seeing what happens ala the UK housemates.
Odette Valmont
09-09-2015
American housemates never seem to understand Big Brother.
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