iPhone 6S/7 launch.

d123 · 10-09-2015, 11:13

Quote:

Wait a second. The bending issue was made up, exaggerated, the fault of the user..

And now the new iPhone is made of a stronger material, it turns out there WAS a problem? Are you saying the old ones did bend after all?

Wash your mouth out!

With enough force it's possible to bend most phones, I've seen someone bend a 4s and a 5, I think it's extremely likely we will see someone on YouTube bending a 6s shortly after they go on sale...

IvanIV · 10-09-2015, 11:22

There is no spoon, erm, iPhone.

ThisGuysGood · 10-09-2015, 11:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiggles

Talking about copies, did you notice the ipad with the keyboard is a direct rip off of the Microsoft Surface?

Did you notice the first iPad many many years ago had a Keyboard? So are you saying Apple traveled forward through time and saw then Microsoft surface? Some people will never stop grasping at straws.

jonmorris · 10-09-2015, 11:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by d123

With enough force it's possible to bend most phones, I've seen someone bend a 4s and a 5, I think it's extremely likely we will see someone on YouTube bending a 6s shortly after they go on sale...

Yes, but I think most people acknowledged there was a weak point on these models that made the risk of bending that bit higher.

Sure, it was exaggerated by many - but I don't buy the 'it was only 9 people' bollocks either.

Everything Goes · 10-09-2015, 11:29

Looks like Apple have added 3 new LTE bands for the new iPhones with 12, 27 and 30 being new for the A1633 iPhone 6s and A1634 iPhone 6s Plus.

1 (2100 MHz)
2 (1900 MHz)
3 (1800 MHz)
4 (AWS)
5 (850 MHz)
7 (2600 MHz)
8 (900 MHz)
12 (700 a MHz)
13 (700c MHz)
17 (700b MHz)
18 (800 MHz)
19 (800 MHz)
20 (800 DD)
25 (1900 MHz)
26 (800 MHz)
27 (800 SMR)
28 (700 APT MHz)
29 (700 de MHz)
30 (2300 WCS)
38 (TD 2600 MHz)
39 (TD 1900 MHz)
40 (TD 2300 MHz)
41 (TD 2500 MHz)

http://www.fonearena.com/blog/156205...lte-bands.html

http://www.fonearena.com/blog/115596...lte-bands.html

kidspud · 10-09-2015, 11:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

Wait a second. The bending issue was made up, exaggerated, the fault of the user..

And now the new iPhone is made of a stronger material, it turns out there WAS a problem? Are you saying the old ones did bend after all?

Are you saying that every time a manufacturer changes the material their phone is made of it by definition means there was a problem with their previous phone?

jonmorris · 10-09-2015, 11:38

Who is talking about every time? This is a phone that visually looks the same on the exterior, but has been strengthened by using a higher grade metal.

Not a manufacturer deciding to switch from plastic to metal on something that's completely different.

And we've done the whole 'other phones bend' stuff. Yes they do. But that doesn't mean Apple shouldn't have fixed its own problems. Now let Samsung and others figure out how to stop their phones bending.

MrSuper · 10-09-2015, 11:54

Should anyone be concerned?

Quote:

It looks like Apple accidentally revealed that the freshly announced iPhone 6s features 1,715 mAh battery. The component was revealed in the Cupertino giant’s promo video for the smartphone.

This means that the new iPhone 6s features a smaller battery than its predecessor, iPhone 6, which offers a 1,810 mAh solution.

d123 · 10-09-2015, 12:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSuper

Should anyone be concerned?

A link if anyone wants to read the full story.

http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_promo_...news-13940.php

IvanIV · 10-09-2015, 12:05

iPhone 6+ depth 7.1 mm, weight 172 grams
iPhone 6S+ depth 7.3 mm, weight 192 grams

I find that scandalous, the new model thicker and heavier?

clonmult · 10-09-2015, 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThisGuysGood

Did you notice the first iPad many many years ago had a Keyboard? So are you saying Apple traveled forward through time and saw then Microsoft surface? Some people will never stop grasping at straws.

Prior to this launch, Apple themselves haven't ever produced a keyboard for the iPad.

Sure, the iPad had a keyboard. On screen. Everything else was third party, and none had the elegance of the surface keyboard cover. Apple have very definitely copied the MS design, which was way slicker than anything that has been previously implemented.

kidspud · 10-09-2015, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by clonmult

Prior to this launch, Apple themselves haven't ever produced a keyboard for the iPad.

Sure, the iPad had a keyboard. On screen. Everything else was third party, and none had the elegance of the surface keyboard cover. Apple have very definitely copied the MS design, which was way slicker than anything that has been previously implemented.

What do you think is elegant about the surface keyboard cover.

One thing I noticed this morning when watching a short review of the ipad pro is that the actual keys do not touch the screen when the cover is on.

My surface pro keyboards keys sit against the screen. I would suggest the apple design provides better protection to both the screen and the keyboard.

clonmult · 10-09-2015, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

What do you think is elegant about the surface keyboard cover.

One thing I noticed this morning when watching a short review of the ipad pro is that the actual keys do not touch the screen when the cover is on.

My surface pro keyboards keys sit against the screen. I would suggest the apple design provides better protection to both the screen and the keyboard.

Elegance in the basic design. It looks absolutely stunning. Same goes for the Apple keyboard.

Still think that the Surface (think it was Pro 3 that I tried) is by far the best looking tablet on the market - its a design that you would have expected to come from Apple.

alan1302 · 10-09-2015, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulLFC

Disappointed to see that the iPad isn't getting an update - still running an iPad 3 and was planning to upgrade this year. Maybe next year then...

Not as disappointed as me...my wife was planning on getting the new iPad Air 2 and I was getting her iPad Air 2...won't happen now! LOL

enapace · 10-09-2015, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aye Up

Its unlikely you will ever see 1080p on live television, I don't know of any broadcaster worldwide that does it, nor any satellite that supports it either. Will only be through ip services like netflix.

I suspect the same will also be true of 2160p only available through iptv where as 2160i will likely be the format for normal broadcast telly.

Before you wrote 2160i I had never heard of it but you probably right will likely be done that way.

You would think by now they would be at least looking to upgrade infrastructure to 1080p but never have always found it slightly odd.

Maybe IPTV may become the norm in the next decade that reminds me I still need contact Sky about Multi Room.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

Looks like Apple have added 3 new LTE bands for the new iPhones with 12, 27 and 30 being new for the A1633 iPhone 6s and A1634 iPhone 6s Plus.

1 (2100 MHz)
2 (1900 MHz)
3 (1800 MHz)
4 (AWS)
5 (850 MHz)
7 (2600 MHz)
8 (900 MHz)
12 (700 a MHz)
13 (700c MHz)
17 (700b MHz)
18 (800 MHz)
19 (800 MHz)
20 (800 DD)
25 (1900 MHz)
26 (800 MHz)
27 (800 SMR)
28 (700 APT MHz)
29 (700 de MHz)
30 (2300 WCS)
38 (TD 2600 MHz)
39 (TD 1900 MHz)
40 (TD 2300 MHz)
41 (TD 2500 MHz)

http://www.fonearena.com/blog/156205...lte-bands.html

http://www.fonearena.com/blog/115596...lte-bands.html

So basically just bands that are exclusively used in America apart from one as think 800MHz SMR is used in Mexico as well.

My friend will be pleased on T-Mobile that he can finally get access to the 700MHz A network in NYC when he upgrades.

Stig · 10-09-2015, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by clonmult

Elegance in the basic design. It looks absolutely stunning. Same goes for the Apple keyboard.

Still think that the Surface (think it was Pro 3 that I tried) is by far the best looking tablet on the market - its a design that you would have expected to come from Apple.

Isn't this an iPhone 6S thread?

jonmorris · 10-09-2015, 14:07

I think it became a thread for all the Apple products announced yesterday.

calico_pie · 10-09-2015, 14:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

Wait a second. The bending issue was made up, exaggerated, the fault of the user..

And now the new iPhone is made of a stronger material, it turns out there WAS a problem? Are you saying the old ones did bend after all?

Wash your mouth out!

Or, less dramatically....

If there was a problem, it was exaggerated quite a bit.

Report of it bending simply by being in kept in a pocket certainly didn't mean that anyone who ever kept their iPhone in their pocket ended up with a bent phone.

That Apple have now used stronger materials isn't so much some admission that there was some widespread design flaw, more just a case of them using the best materials possible, with the aim of reducing further the chances of anyone having problems.

calico_pie · 10-09-2015, 14:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

Steve can rest easy. Apple still hasn't announced a stylus. It's the Apple Pencil. Totally different.

OMG Steve Jobs once said something years ago.

Shish - get over it already.

Could possibly be that technology has greatly improved in recent years allowing for better accuracy and control in a stylus. I'm not sure something like the pencil could have done what it does a few years ago, without as pressure sensitive a display that could also respond differently depending on the tilt of the stylus.

For example.

clonmult · 10-09-2015, 14:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stig

Isn't this an iPhone 6S thread?

Aye, but there's nothing notable in the iPhone 6S .... nothing much of real note in the iPad Pro either to be honest.

calico_pie · 10-09-2015, 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by clonmult

Aye, but there's nothing notable in the iPhone 6S .... nothing much of real note in the iPad Pro either to be honest.

Could be time for this:

Flipping Romans again.

moox · 10-09-2015, 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by calico_pie

OMG Steve Jobs once said something years ago.

Shish - get over it already.

Could possibly be that technology has greatly improved in recent years allowing for better accuracy and control in a stylus. I'm not sure something like the pencil could have done what it does a few years ago, without as pressure sensitive a display that could also respond differently depending on the tilt of the stylus.

For example.

Wacom and others have managed to do pressure sensitivity since forever, and it would appear that they can do angle detection for a while too. (given that they're the industry leader I'd hope they are ahead of everyone else)

Even the Surface Pro 3 has pressure sensivity, don't know about angle detection. The company that MS bought for their pen technology has recently filed for patents on both, so I'd assume the next Surface Pro will have those features too. MS gives you a pen with the tablet and they charge less for a replacement - how novel!

It really is just a Surface Pro with an ARM processor and iOS, right down to the detachable keyboard/cover - and they've even got MS to make them a nice Office suite for it..

.

IvanIV · 10-09-2015, 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by calico_pie

OMG Steve Jobs once said something years ago.

Shish - get over it already.

Could possibly be that technology has greatly improved in recent years allowing for better accuracy and control in a stylus. I'm not sure something like the pencil could have done what it does a few years ago, without as pressure sensitive a display that could also respond differently depending on the tilt of the stylus.

For example.

It's quite shortsighted for such a visionary though.

enapace · 10-09-2015, 14:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by moox

Wacom and others have managed to do pressure sensitivity since forever, and it would appear that they can do angle detection for a while too. (given that they're the industry leader I'd hope they are ahead of everyone else)

Even the Surface Pro 3 has pressure sensivity, don't know about angle detection. The company that MS bought for their pen technology has recently filed for patents on both, so I'd assume the next Surface Pro will have those features too. MS gives you a pen with the tablet and they charge less for a replacement - how novel!

It really is just a Surface Pro with an ARM processor and iOS, right down to the detachable keyboard/cover - and they've even got MS to make them a nice Office suite for it..

.

Err assume it is just an upgraded version of office as I already have office on my iPad.

But on the whole I agree with your statement I was considering getting a new iPad a pity only the 13 inch pro is getting this handwriting thing i would prefer a 10 inch like the present iPad. I love my iPad don't get me wrong but it's a 4th and fancied a new one for the multitasking thing if nothing else.

jonmorris · 10-09-2015, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by IvanIV

It's quite shortsighted for such a visionary though.

He was still a salesman.

He told us nobody needed 3G when the first iPhone came out. He said nobody needed larger display. He said nobody would use a laptop with a touchscreen (too awkward to use) but now the iPad Pro with keyboard is effectively a laptop with a touchscreen. The list goes on.

He says what he says because he's selling what Apple offers at that time. He's not unique - it's what people in sales do to earn a crust.

I think most people know this, but it's fun to joke about it anyway. Some people need to lighten up and realise it's not Apple bashing - every successful company does the same thing.

10-09-2015, 11:13	#151
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris Wait a second. The bending issue was made up, exaggerated, the fault of the user.. And now the new iPhone is made of a stronger material, it turns out there WAS a problem? Are you saying the old ones did bend after all? Wash your mouth out! With enough force it's possible to bend most phones, I've seen someone bend a 4s and a 5, I think it's extremely likely we will see someone on YouTube bending a 6s shortly after they go on sale...

10-09-2015, 11:22	#152
IvanIV Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 25,199	There is no spoon, erm, iPhone.

10-09-2015, 11:23	#153
ThisGuysGood Inactive Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 598	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles Talking about copies, did you notice the ipad with the keyboard is a direct rip off of the Microsoft Surface? Did you notice the first iPad many many years ago had a Keyboard? So are you saying Apple traveled forward through time and saw then Microsoft surface? Some people will never stop grasping at straws.

10-09-2015, 11:26	#154
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by d123 With enough force it's possible to bend most phones, I've seen someone bend a 4s and a 5, I think it's extremely likely we will see someone on YouTube bending a 6s shortly after they go on sale... Yes, but I think most people acknowledged there was a weak point on these models that made the risk of bending that bit higher. Sure, it was exaggerated by many - but I don't buy the 'it was only 9 people' bollocks either.

10-09-2015, 11:29	#155
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Looks like Apple have added 3 new LTE bands for the new iPhones with 12, 27 and 30 being new for the A1633 iPhone 6s and A1634 iPhone 6s Plus. 1 (2100 MHz) 2 (1900 MHz) 3 (1800 MHz) 4 (AWS) 5 (850 MHz) 7 (2600 MHz) 8 (900 MHz) 12 (700 a MHz) 13 (700c MHz) 17 (700b MHz) 18 (800 MHz) 19 (800 MHz) 20 (800 DD) 25 (1900 MHz) 26 (800 MHz) 27 (800 SMR) 28 (700 APT MHz) 29 (700 de MHz) 30 (2300 WCS) 38 (TD 2600 MHz) 39 (TD 1900 MHz) 40 (TD 2300 MHz) 41 (TD 2500 MHz) http://www.fonearena.com/blog/156205...lte-bands.html http://www.fonearena.com/blog/115596...lte-bands.html

10-09-2015, 11:29	#156
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris Wait a second. The bending issue was made up, exaggerated, the fault of the user.. And now the new iPhone is made of a stronger material, it turns out there WAS a problem? Are you saying the old ones did bend after all? Are you saying that every time a manufacturer changes the material their phone is made of it by definition means there was a problem with their previous phone?

10-09-2015, 11:38	#157
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Who is talking about every time? This is a phone that visually looks the same on the exterior, but has been strengthened by using a higher grade metal. Not a manufacturer deciding to switch from plastic to metal on something that's completely different. And we've done the whole 'other phones bend' stuff. Yes they do. But that doesn't mean Apple shouldn't have fixed its own problems. Now let Samsung and others figure out how to stop their phones bending.

10-09-2015, 11:54	#158
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	Should anyone be concerned? Quote: It looks like Apple accidentally revealed that the freshly announced iPhone 6s features 1,715 mAh battery. The component was revealed in the Cupertino giant’s promo video for the smartphone. This means that the new iPhone 6s features a smaller battery than its predecessor, iPhone 6, which offers a 1,810 mAh solution.

10-09-2015, 12:03	#159
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by MrSuper Should anyone be concerned? A link if anyone wants to read the full story. http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_promo_...news-13940.php

10-09-2015, 12:05	#160
IvanIV Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 25,199	iPhone 6+ depth 7.1 mm, weight 172 grams iPhone 6S+ depth 7.3 mm, weight 192 grams I find that scandalous, the new model thicker and heavier?

10-09-2015, 12:10	#161
clonmult Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,291	Quote: Originally Posted by ThisGuysGood Did you notice the first iPad many many years ago had a Keyboard? So are you saying Apple traveled forward through time and saw then Microsoft surface? Some people will never stop grasping at straws. Prior to this launch, Apple themselves haven't ever produced a keyboard for the iPad. Sure, the iPad had a keyboard. On screen. Everything else was third party, and none had the elegance of the surface keyboard cover. Apple have very definitely copied the MS design, which was way slicker than anything that has been previously implemented.

10-09-2015, 12:20	#162
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by clonmult Prior to this launch, Apple themselves haven't ever produced a keyboard for the iPad. Sure, the iPad had a keyboard. On screen. Everything else was third party, and none had the elegance of the surface keyboard cover. Apple have very definitely copied the MS design, which was way slicker than anything that has been previously implemented. What do you think is elegant about the surface keyboard cover. One thing I noticed this morning when watching a short review of the ipad pro is that the actual keys do not touch the screen when the cover is on. My surface pro keyboards keys sit against the screen. I would suggest the apple design provides better protection to both the screen and the keyboard.

10-09-2015, 12:41	#163
clonmult Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,291	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud What do you think is elegant about the surface keyboard cover. One thing I noticed this morning when watching a short review of the ipad pro is that the actual keys do not touch the screen when the cover is on. My surface pro keyboards keys sit against the screen. I would suggest the apple design provides better protection to both the screen and the keyboard. Elegance in the basic design. It looks absolutely stunning. Same goes for the Apple keyboard. Still think that the Surface (think it was Pro 3 that I tried) is by far the best looking tablet on the market - its a design that you would have expected to come from Apple.

10-09-2015, 13:02	#164
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	Quote: Originally Posted by PaulLFC Disappointed to see that the iPad isn't getting an update - still running an iPad 3 and was planning to upgrade this year. Maybe next year then... Not as disappointed as me...my wife was planning on getting the new iPad Air 2 and I was getting her iPad Air 2...won't happen now! LOL

10-09-2015, 13:31	#165
enapace Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4,249	Quote: Originally Posted by Aye Up Its unlikely you will ever see 1080p on live television, I don't know of any broadcaster worldwide that does it, nor any satellite that supports it either. Will only be through ip services like netflix. I suspect the same will also be true of 2160p only available through iptv where as 2160i will likely be the format for normal broadcast telly. Before you wrote 2160i I had never heard of it but you probably right will likely be done that way. You would think by now they would be at least looking to upgrade infrastructure to 1080p but never have always found it slightly odd. Maybe IPTV may become the norm in the next decade that reminds me I still need contact Sky about Multi Room. Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes Looks like Apple have added 3 new LTE bands for the new iPhones with 12, 27 and 30 being new for the A1633 iPhone 6s and A1634 iPhone 6s Plus. 1 (2100 MHz) 2 (1900 MHz) 3 (1800 MHz) 4 (AWS) 5 (850 MHz) 7 (2600 MHz) 8 (900 MHz) 12 (700 a MHz) 13 (700c MHz) 17 (700b MHz) 18 (800 MHz) 19 (800 MHz) 20 (800 DD) 25 (1900 MHz) 26 (800 MHz) 27 (800 SMR) 28 (700 APT MHz) 29 (700 de MHz) 30 (2300 WCS) 38 (TD 2600 MHz) 39 (TD 1900 MHz) 40 (TD 2300 MHz) 41 (TD 2500 MHz) http://www.fonearena.com/blog/156205...lte-bands.html http://www.fonearena.com/blog/115596...lte-bands.html So basically just bands that are exclusively used in America apart from one as think 800MHz SMR is used in Mexico as well. My friend will be pleased on T-Mobile that he can finally get access to the 700MHz A network in NYC when he upgrades.

10-09-2015, 13:58	#166
Stig Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sandy Heath, Beds. UK Posts: 10,383	Quote: Originally Posted by clonmult Elegance in the basic design. It looks absolutely stunning. Same goes for the Apple keyboard. Still think that the Surface (think it was Pro 3 that I tried) is by far the best looking tablet on the market - its a design that you would have expected to come from Apple. Isn't this an iPhone 6S thread?

10-09-2015, 14:07	#167
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	I think it became a thread for all the Apple products announced yesterday.

10-09-2015, 14:10	#168
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris Wait a second. The bending issue was made up, exaggerated, the fault of the user.. And now the new iPhone is made of a stronger material, it turns out there WAS a problem? Are you saying the old ones did bend after all? Wash your mouth out! Or, less dramatically.... If there was a problem, it was exaggerated quite a bit. Report of it bending simply by being in kept in a pocket certainly didn't mean that anyone who ever kept their iPhone in their pocket ended up with a bent phone. That Apple have now used stronger materials isn't so much some admission that there was some widespread design flaw, more just a case of them using the best materials possible, with the aim of reducing further the chances of anyone having problems.

10-09-2015, 14:12	#169
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris Steve can rest easy. Apple still hasn't announced a stylus. It's the Apple Pencil. Totally different. OMG Steve Jobs once said something years ago. Shish - get over it already. Could possibly be that technology has greatly improved in recent years allowing for better accuracy and control in a stylus. I'm not sure something like the pencil could have done what it does a few years ago, without as pressure sensitive a display that could also respond differently depending on the tilt of the stylus. For example.

10-09-2015, 14:12	#170
clonmult Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,291	Quote: Originally Posted by Stig Isn't this an iPhone 6S thread? Aye, but there's nothing notable in the iPhone 6S .... nothing much of real note in the iPad Pro either to be honest.

10-09-2015, 14:15	#171
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by clonmult Aye, but there's nothing notable in the iPhone 6S .... nothing much of real note in the iPad Pro either to be honest. Could be time for this: Flipping Romans again.

DS Forums

iPhone 6S/7 launch.

10-09-2015, 14:18	#172
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie OMG Steve Jobs once said something years ago. Shish - get over it already. Could possibly be that technology has greatly improved in recent years allowing for better accuracy and control in a stylus. I'm not sure something like the pencil could have done what it does a few years ago, without as pressure sensitive a display that could also respond differently depending on the tilt of the stylus. For example. Wacom and others have managed to do pressure sensitivity since forever, and it would appear that they can do angle detection for a while too. (given that they're the industry leader I'd hope they are ahead of everyone else) Even the Surface Pro 3 has pressure sensivity, don't know about angle detection. The company that MS bought for their pen technology has recently filed for patents on both, so I'd assume the next Surface Pro will have those features too. MS gives you a pen with the tablet and they charge less for a replacement - how novel! It really is just a Surface Pro with an ARM processor and iOS, right down to the detachable keyboard/cover - and they've even got MS to make them a nice Office suite for it.. .

10-09-2015, 14:24	#173
IvanIV Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 25,199	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie OMG Steve Jobs once said something years ago. Shish - get over it already. Could possibly be that technology has greatly improved in recent years allowing for better accuracy and control in a stylus. I'm not sure something like the pencil could have done what it does a few years ago, without as pressure sensitive a display that could also respond differently depending on the tilt of the stylus. For example. It's quite shortsighted for such a visionary though.

10-09-2015, 14:26	#174
enapace Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4,249	Quote: Originally Posted by moox Wacom and others have managed to do pressure sensitivity since forever, and it would appear that they can do angle detection for a while too. (given that they're the industry leader I'd hope they are ahead of everyone else) Even the Surface Pro 3 has pressure sensivity, don't know about angle detection. The company that MS bought for their pen technology has recently filed for patents on both, so I'd assume the next Surface Pro will have those features too. MS gives you a pen with the tablet and they charge less for a replacement - how novel! It really is just a Surface Pro with an ARM processor and iOS, right down to the detachable keyboard/cover - and they've even got MS to make them a nice Office suite for it.. . Err assume it is just an upgraded version of office as I already have office on my iPad. But on the whole I agree with your statement I was considering getting a new iPad a pity only the 13 inch pro is getting this handwriting thing i would prefer a 10 inch like the present iPad. I love my iPad don't get me wrong but it's a 4th and fancied a new one for the multitasking thing if nothing else.

10-09-2015, 14:35	#175
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by IvanIV It's quite shortsighted for such a visionary though. He was still a salesman. He told us nobody needed 3G when the first iPhone came out. He said nobody needed larger display. He said nobody would use a laptop with a touchscreen (too awkward to use) but now the iPad Pro with keyboard is effectively a laptop with a touchscreen. The list goes on. He says what he says because he's selling what Apple offers at that time. He's not unique - it's what people in sales do to earn a crust. I think most people know this, but it's fun to joke about it anyway. Some people need to lighten up and realise it's not Apple bashing - every successful company does the same thing.