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Old 10-09-2015, 11:13
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Wait a second. The bending issue was made up, exaggerated, the fault of the user..

And now the new iPhone is made of a stronger material, it turns out there WAS a problem? Are you saying the old ones did bend after all?

Wash your mouth out!
With enough force it's possible to bend most phones, I've seen someone bend a 4s and a 5, I think it's extremely likely we will see someone on YouTube bending a 6s shortly after they go on sale...
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Old 10-09-2015, 11:22
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There is no spoon, erm, iPhone.
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Old 10-09-2015, 11:23
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Talking about copies, did you notice the ipad with the keyboard is a direct rip off of the Microsoft Surface?
Did you notice the first iPad many many years ago had a Keyboard? So are you saying Apple traveled forward through time and saw then Microsoft surface? Some people will never stop grasping at straws.
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Old 10-09-2015, 11:26
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With enough force it's possible to bend most phones, I've seen someone bend a 4s and a 5, I think it's extremely likely we will see someone on YouTube bending a 6s shortly after they go on sale...
Yes, but I think most people acknowledged there was a weak point on these models that made the risk of bending that bit higher.

Sure, it was exaggerated by many - but I don't buy the 'it was only 9 people' bollocks either.
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Old 10-09-2015, 11:29
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Looks like Apple have added 3 new LTE bands for the new iPhones with 12, 27 and 30 being new for the A1633 iPhone 6s and A1634 iPhone 6s Plus.

1 (2100 MHz)
2 (1900 MHz)
3 (1800 MHz)
4 (AWS)
5 (850 MHz)
7 (2600 MHz)
8 (900 MHz)
12 (700 a MHz)
13 (700c MHz)
17 (700b MHz)
18 (800 MHz)
19 (800 MHz)
20 (800 DD)
25 (1900 MHz)
26 (800 MHz)
27 (800 SMR)
28 (700 APT MHz)
29 (700 de MHz)
30 (2300 WCS)
38 (TD 2600 MHz)
39 (TD 1900 MHz)
40 (TD 2300 MHz)
41 (TD 2500 MHz)

http://www.fonearena.com/blog/156205...lte-bands.html

http://www.fonearena.com/blog/115596...lte-bands.html
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Old 10-09-2015, 11:29
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Wait a second. The bending issue was made up, exaggerated, the fault of the user..

And now the new iPhone is made of a stronger material, it turns out there WAS a problem? Are you saying the old ones did bend after all?
Are you saying that every time a manufacturer changes the material their phone is made of it by definition means there was a problem with their previous phone?
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Old 10-09-2015, 11:38
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Who is talking about every time? This is a phone that visually looks the same on the exterior, but has been strengthened by using a higher grade metal.

Not a manufacturer deciding to switch from plastic to metal on something that's completely different.

And we've done the whole 'other phones bend' stuff. Yes they do. But that doesn't mean Apple shouldn't have fixed its own problems. Now let Samsung and others figure out how to stop their phones bending.
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Old 10-09-2015, 11:54
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Should anyone be concerned?

It looks like Apple accidentally revealed that the freshly announced iPhone 6s features 1,715 mAh battery. The component was revealed in the Cupertino giant’s promo video for the smartphone.

This means that the new iPhone 6s features a smaller battery than its predecessor, iPhone 6, which offers a 1,810 mAh solution.
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:03
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Should anyone be concerned?
A link if anyone wants to read the full story.

http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_promo_...news-13940.php
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:05
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iPhone 6+ depth 7.1 mm, weight 172 grams
iPhone 6S+ depth 7.3 mm, weight 192 grams

I find that scandalous, the new model thicker and heavier?
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:10
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Did you notice the first iPad many many years ago had a Keyboard? So are you saying Apple traveled forward through time and saw then Microsoft surface? Some people will never stop grasping at straws.
Prior to this launch, Apple themselves haven't ever produced a keyboard for the iPad.

Sure, the iPad had a keyboard. On screen. Everything else was third party, and none had the elegance of the surface keyboard cover. Apple have very definitely copied the MS design, which was way slicker than anything that has been previously implemented.
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:20
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Prior to this launch, Apple themselves haven't ever produced a keyboard for the iPad.

Sure, the iPad had a keyboard. On screen. Everything else was third party, and none had the elegance of the surface keyboard cover. Apple have very definitely copied the MS design, which was way slicker than anything that has been previously implemented.
What do you think is elegant about the surface keyboard cover.

One thing I noticed this morning when watching a short review of the ipad pro is that the actual keys do not touch the screen when the cover is on.

My surface pro keyboards keys sit against the screen. I would suggest the apple design provides better protection to both the screen and the keyboard.
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:41
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What do you think is elegant about the surface keyboard cover.

One thing I noticed this morning when watching a short review of the ipad pro is that the actual keys do not touch the screen when the cover is on.

My surface pro keyboards keys sit against the screen. I would suggest the apple design provides better protection to both the screen and the keyboard.
Elegance in the basic design. It looks absolutely stunning. Same goes for the Apple keyboard.

Still think that the Surface (think it was Pro 3 that I tried) is by far the best looking tablet on the market - its a design that you would have expected to come from Apple.
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Old 10-09-2015, 13:02
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Disappointed to see that the iPad isn't getting an update - still running an iPad 3 and was planning to upgrade this year. Maybe next year then...
Not as disappointed as me...my wife was planning on getting the new iPad Air 2 and I was getting her iPad Air 2...won't happen now! LOL
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Old 10-09-2015, 13:31
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Its unlikely you will ever see 1080p on live television, I don't know of any broadcaster worldwide that does it, nor any satellite that supports it either. Will only be through ip services like netflix.

I suspect the same will also be true of 2160p only available through iptv where as 2160i will likely be the format for normal broadcast telly.
Before you wrote 2160i I had never heard of it but you probably right will likely be done that way.

You would think by now they would be at least looking to upgrade infrastructure to 1080p but never have always found it slightly odd.

Maybe IPTV may become the norm in the next decade that reminds me I still need contact Sky about Multi Room.

Looks like Apple have added 3 new LTE bands for the new iPhones with 12, 27 and 30 being new for the A1633 iPhone 6s and A1634 iPhone 6s Plus.

1 (2100 MHz)
2 (1900 MHz)
3 (1800 MHz)
4 (AWS)
5 (850 MHz)
7 (2600 MHz)
8 (900 MHz)
12 (700 a MHz)
13 (700c MHz)
17 (700b MHz)
18 (800 MHz)
19 (800 MHz)
20 (800 DD)
25 (1900 MHz)
26 (800 MHz)
27 (800 SMR)
28 (700 APT MHz)
29 (700 de MHz)
30 (2300 WCS)
38 (TD 2600 MHz)
39 (TD 1900 MHz)
40 (TD 2300 MHz)
41 (TD 2500 MHz)

http://www.fonearena.com/blog/156205...lte-bands.html

http://www.fonearena.com/blog/115596...lte-bands.html
So basically just bands that are exclusively used in America apart from one as think 800MHz SMR is used in Mexico as well.

My friend will be pleased on T-Mobile that he can finally get access to the 700MHz A network in NYC when he upgrades.
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Old 10-09-2015, 13:58
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Elegance in the basic design. It looks absolutely stunning. Same goes for the Apple keyboard.

Still think that the Surface (think it was Pro 3 that I tried) is by far the best looking tablet on the market - its a design that you would have expected to come from Apple.
Isn't this an iPhone 6S thread?
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Old 10-09-2015, 14:07
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I think it became a thread for all the Apple products announced yesterday.
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Old 10-09-2015, 14:10
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Wait a second. The bending issue was made up, exaggerated, the fault of the user..

And now the new iPhone is made of a stronger material, it turns out there WAS a problem? Are you saying the old ones did bend after all?

Wash your mouth out!
Or, less dramatically....

If there was a problem, it was exaggerated quite a bit.

Report of it bending simply by being in kept in a pocket certainly didn't mean that anyone who ever kept their iPhone in their pocket ended up with a bent phone.

That Apple have now used stronger materials isn't so much some admission that there was some widespread design flaw, more just a case of them using the best materials possible, with the aim of reducing further the chances of anyone having problems.
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Old 10-09-2015, 14:12
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Steve can rest easy. Apple still hasn't announced a stylus. It's the Apple Pencil. Totally different.

OMG Steve Jobs once said something years ago.

Shish - get over it already.

Could possibly be that technology has greatly improved in recent years allowing for better accuracy and control in a stylus. I'm not sure something like the pencil could have done what it does a few years ago, without as pressure sensitive a display that could also respond differently depending on the tilt of the stylus.

For example.
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Old 10-09-2015, 14:12
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Isn't this an iPhone 6S thread?
Aye, but there's nothing notable in the iPhone 6S .... nothing much of real note in the iPad Pro either to be honest.
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Old 10-09-2015, 14:15
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Aye, but there's nothing notable in the iPhone 6S .... nothing much of real note in the iPad Pro either to be honest.
Could be time for this:

Flipping Romans again.
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Old 10-09-2015, 14:18
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OMG Steve Jobs once said something years ago.

Shish - get over it already.

Could possibly be that technology has greatly improved in recent years allowing for better accuracy and control in a stylus. I'm not sure something like the pencil could have done what it does a few years ago, without as pressure sensitive a display that could also respond differently depending on the tilt of the stylus.

For example.
Wacom and others have managed to do pressure sensitivity since forever, and it would appear that they can do angle detection for a while too. (given that they're the industry leader I'd hope they are ahead of everyone else)

Even the Surface Pro 3 has pressure sensivity, don't know about angle detection. The company that MS bought for their pen technology has recently filed for patents on both, so I'd assume the next Surface Pro will have those features too. MS gives you a pen with the tablet and they charge less for a replacement - how novel!

It really is just a Surface Pro with an ARM processor and iOS, right down to the detachable keyboard/cover - and they've even got MS to make them a nice Office suite for it..

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Old 10-09-2015, 14:24
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OMG Steve Jobs once said something years ago.

Shish - get over it already.

Could possibly be that technology has greatly improved in recent years allowing for better accuracy and control in a stylus. I'm not sure something like the pencil could have done what it does a few years ago, without as pressure sensitive a display that could also respond differently depending on the tilt of the stylus.

For example.
It's quite shortsighted for such a visionary though.
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Old 10-09-2015, 14:26
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Wacom and others have managed to do pressure sensitivity since forever, and it would appear that they can do angle detection for a while too. (given that they're the industry leader I'd hope they are ahead of everyone else)

Even the Surface Pro 3 has pressure sensivity, don't know about angle detection. The company that MS bought for their pen technology has recently filed for patents on both, so I'd assume the next Surface Pro will have those features too. MS gives you a pen with the tablet and they charge less for a replacement - how novel!

It really is just a Surface Pro with an ARM processor and iOS, right down to the detachable keyboard/cover - and they've even got MS to make them a nice Office suite for it..

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Err assume it is just an upgraded version of office as I already have office on my iPad.

But on the whole I agree with your statement I was considering getting a new iPad a pity only the 13 inch pro is getting this handwriting thing i would prefer a 10 inch like the present iPad. I love my iPad don't get me wrong but it's a 4th and fancied a new one for the multitasking thing if nothing else.
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Old 10-09-2015, 14:35
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It's quite shortsighted for such a visionary though.
He was still a salesman.

He told us nobody needed 3G when the first iPhone came out. He said nobody needed larger display. He said nobody would use a laptop with a touchscreen (too awkward to use) but now the iPad Pro with keyboard is effectively a laptop with a touchscreen. The list goes on.

He says what he says because he's selling what Apple offers at that time. He's not unique - it's what people in sales do to earn a crust.

I think most people know this, but it's fun to joke about it anyway. Some people need to lighten up and realise it's not Apple bashing - every successful company does the same thing.
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