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Old 09-09-2015, 09:44
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This theme has been pretty disastrous and I hope the powers that be realise that enough is enough.

In january hopefully it's just celeb bb mainly Brits we know of and a token American if it's really necessary .

Clearly this theme was just a ruse to load the show with Americans as per the channel owners request.

Not convinced it will happen though
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Old 13-10-2015, 07:58
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Much improved since the themes
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Old 13-10-2015, 11:27
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welll, i think you need to have obtainable hopes or forever be depressed...
it is like saying you hope tv goes back to the black & white tv standard before 625 lines of colour tv began....

tv is all about themes... it is a gimmick to keep tv series new and interesting rather than just declining as people get bored with "the same" - every tv show evolves to add the new fashions and remove the things not so popular.. it is a competitive market, there are other channels offering "the new same old but better" on the other channels... and if they do not respond by doing the same tweaks then the slot will be used for something that can... remember this is commercial tv... the only goal is to attract eyeballs to adverts - from advertisers who pay to show their wares and services to specific demographic types... i.e. if you dont like the show you may not be the target of those paying for the show to be made... and if the target audience doesnt come, then the channel will replace the show with something that does the job better. THAT is what tv is about... and so "themes" are never going away

( look at the history of "scrapheap challenge" and you will see the basic format, 2 teams with a scrapheap of bits to choose from radically changed how the show was based over the 10 years... each year they had to be bigger and better than the year before... because the copyshows where raising the bar too.
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Old 13-10-2015, 22:13
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welll, i think you need to have obtainable hopes or forever be depressed...
it is like saying you hope tv goes back to the black & white tv standard before 625 lines of colour tv began....

tv is all about themes... it is a gimmick to keep tv series new and interesting rather than just declining as people get bored with "the same" - every tv show evolves to add the new fashions and remove the things not so popular.. it is a competitive market, there are other channels offering "the new same old but better" on the other channels... and if they do not respond by doing the same tweaks then the slot will be used for something that can... remember this is commercial tv... the only goal is to attract eyeballs to adverts - from advertisers who pay to show their wares and services to specific demographic types... i.e. if you dont like the show you may not be the target of those paying for the show to be made... and if the target audience doesnt come, then the channel will replace the show with something that does the job better. THAT is what tv is about... and so "themes" are never going away

( look at the history of "scrapheap challenge" and you will see the basic format, 2 teams with a scrapheap of bits to choose from radically changed how the show was based over the 10 years... each year they had to be bigger and better than the year before... because the copyshows where raising the bar too.
Not working to well though is it as there are less viewers every series.
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Old 14-10-2015, 02:35
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Having themes means that BB can twist the show however they like to try and make something go their way.

The only theme I want to see on the show is "back to basics".
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Old 14-10-2015, 02:45
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The production team need to get rid of the themes, they just don't work anymore.
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Old 14-10-2015, 06:22
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Back to basics bring in the vege garden, chickens, make own bread etc. Normal shopping task for a luxury shopping budget and no nomination twist!
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Old 14-10-2015, 07:52
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Not working to well though is it as there are less viewers every series.
it wouldnt be better if it stayed the same every year.

from supermarkets, to pubs, to every single product you can think of they have to "change the way they look" to stop it going stale.

BB has never had the level of competition it has now.... hence the smaller but stable ratings... but the total size of audience actually doesnt matter, it is the number of type of people the show attracts that the advertisers wanted to reach that matters... just talking total size is a muppet metric - the important one is the share and hit target... and few seem to understand that when they argue success on here.
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Old 14-10-2015, 12:04
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it wouldnt be better if it stayed the same every year.

from supermarkets, to pubs, to every single product you can think of they have to "change the way they look" to stop it going stale.

BB has never had the level of competition it has now.... hence the smaller but stable ratings... but the total size of audience actually doesnt matter, it is the number of type of people the show attracts that the advertisers wanted to reach that matters... just talking total size is a muppet metric - the important one is the share and hit target... and few seem to understand that when they argue success on here.
I have worked in the media for most of my working life and from my point of view I can pick holes in many of the points you make and tend not to agree.

But we all have our own opinion.
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Old 14-10-2015, 19:28
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Back to basics bring in the vege garden, chickens, make own bread etc. Normal shopping task for a luxury shopping budget and no nomination twist!
Try and tell that to the nobheads at c5 towers and see what answers you get.
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Old 14-10-2015, 20:30
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Back to basics bring in the vege garden, chickens, make own bread etc. Normal shopping task for a luxury shopping budget and no nomination twist!
Just so.

But the only chickens we are likely to see now is the headless variety as C5 look for the latest crackbrained idea.
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Old 14-10-2015, 20:48
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Back to basics bring in the vege garden, chickens, make own bread etc. Normal shopping task for a luxury shopping budget and no nomination twist!
I agree with all that, however we will never see them keeping Chickens again due to the animal rights people
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Old 14-10-2015, 22:27
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If we didn't have the themes we'd end up with something similar to iAc with the series all blending into one.
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Old 15-10-2015, 00:50
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Having themes means that BB can twist the show however they like to try and make something go their way.

The only theme I want to see on the show is "back to basics".
Back to basics bring in the vege garden, chickens, make own bread etc. Normal shopping task for a luxury shopping budget and no nomination twist!
Back to basics will never work now. Look at BB4 - it went 'back to basics' and ended up being the boring year. Then you had BB5 - went evil. Themes have to stay.
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Old 15-10-2015, 20:57
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[quote=VIP101;80001750]Back to basics will never work now. Look at BB4 - it went 'back to basics' and ended up being the boring year. Then you had BB5 - went evil. Themes have to stay.[/QUOTE]

Until BB is finally scrapped ?
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Old 16-10-2015, 00:12
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Try and tell that to the nobheads at c5 towers and see what answers you get.
The trouble is that nobody ever answers anything
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Old 16-10-2015, 00:16
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This year's America v UK theme was stupid as BB isn't a team game. There is only one winner. For it to have been a team game based on nationalities, Americans would have only nominated Brits and vice versa.. They soon forgot that and started nominating their own country's housemates
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Old 16-10-2015, 00:18
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Back to basics will never work now. Look at BB4 - it went 'back to basics' and ended up being the boring year. Then you had BB5 - went evil. Themes have to stay.
I really enjoyed BB4 and I'd take that over any of the C5 series, let alone any of their themed series.
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Old 16-10-2015, 20:00
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I really enjoyed BB4 and I'd take that over any of the C5 series, let alone any of their themed series.
Agree with all this.
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Old 16-10-2015, 20:20
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I really enjoyed BB4 and I'd take that over any of the C5 series, let alone any of their themed series.
Me too and not just over all the C5 series, it was far from the worst CH4 one too!
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Old 16-10-2015, 20:29
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Me too and not just over all the C5 series, it was far from the worst CH4 one too!
Definitely. I just had a look at my ranking of each series thread, and you ranked it your third favourite series. It's one of my favourites too, (I ranked it in second).

I honestly believe that if BB4 hadn't come between BB3 and BB5 and had immediately followed BB2, then it wouldn't have been called boring.
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Old 16-10-2015, 20:42
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Definitely. I just had a look at my ranking of each series thread, and you ranked it your third favourite series. It's one of my favourites too, (I ranked it in second).

I honestly believe that if BB4 hadn't come between BB3 and BB5 and had immediately followed BB2, then it wouldn't have been called boring.
Yes there is some truth in that, BB3 and BB5 being so highly rated on here doesn't help. The fact is it was quite an innovative series in ts own right.....

1) The reward room was an excellent never to be repeated idea
2) It was the first series to bring back an evicted hm (albeit in a non-competive role)
3) The Africa swap remains unparralleled to this day.
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Old 17-10-2015, 11:10
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Definitely. I just had a look at my ranking of each series thread, and you ranked it your third favourite series. It's one of my favourites too, (I ranked it in second).

I honestly believe that if BB4 hadn't come between BB3 and BB5 and had immediately followed BB2, then it wouldn't have been called boring.
BB2 remains the best for me personally - and I was just sorry that Helen did not win. ( or Dean )

I it was always going to be Brian was going to win because at that time he was "different" but he was not my choice. I don't think he deserved his second win either.

I did not dislike Brian but he was not good enough to win in my opinion.
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Old 17-10-2015, 14:52
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BB2 remains the best for me personally
It's my favourite too. I rewatched it last year. and the final night was so positive and uplifting. It truly felt like a celebration of the whole series.
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Old 17-10-2015, 21:19
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It's my favourite too. I rewatched it last year. and the final night was so positive and uplifting. It truly felt like a celebration of the whole series.
It was a great series from start to finish and you are right the final night was wonderful and very touching I thought - with the older Dean trying to calm Brian and Helen both of whom were terrified !

And then when Dean was evicted they remain close to each other - very moving.

And I too would love to see it all again - can you advise how I could do this ?
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