Please be aware I am NOT a Farrah fan! I am , however, a 16 & Pregnant and Teen Mom fan. I commented on another thread about some of the things that she went through when she was younger- to try and show that although her is behaviour unacceptable there is obviously deep physiological reasons, and potentially BB should not of put her in there!- but people mentioned that they had no idea.

She got pregnant when she was 16 and 8 months into her pregnancy her boyfriend and father of the baby suddenly dies in a car accident. Her mother would not allow her to see the baby daddy prior to this and forced them to be apart but Farrah always described him as her first and only love. She has never forgiven herself, or her mother fot his. This is a lot for anyone to have to deal with, especially at age 16 and I don't think she has ever truly recovered from that.

People have voiced their concerns about Gail, but personally I think Farrah is probably the most mentally unstable one there! She puts on the show as a massive defence mechanism. The stuff she says is not ok or acceptable, but BB should really be dealing with that better than they are!

I'm sorry she lost the "Love of her life" but that doesn't give her carte blanche to be nasty to who she pleases.

I agree, she has some mental issues though.

I don't know an awful lot about her but I used to occasionally watch teen mom and I remember thinking what a bad parent her mother was, her dad seemed like a nice man. I know her past doesn't excuse her behaviour but I can't help feeling a little bit of sympathy for her, she's really is a lost soul who needs a lot of counselling.

Why is it that people blame other peoples attitude on their past, maybe she and others have had a rough past as most people have, but in the present she is awful

They're not "mental issues" they're more "emotional issues." She probably could use some counseling to learn to deal better. She's seems to me to be oversensitive to people criticizing/attacking/picking on (however you want to term it) her. She fights back.

From what I heard (I haven't seen either of those shows) her mother was a very strict, religious woman. And when as a teenager, she got pregnant, her mother forbade her to have an abortion.

We're all a product of our upbringing, and our pasts.

Yep. There's personal development, moving forward, and TRYING to be a better person. Farrah just wants to blame everyone else for everything that's wrong in the universe.

God could give her a bomb to destroy the whole of reality and she'd push the button and blame God for it!

I disagree with this. People's past can definitely effect the way the behave in the present day whether it's in a positive way or a negative way. That doesn't mean that we should excuse them of their behaviour but in my opinion it should be taken into consideration.

Absolutely. A little understanding goes a long way.

She was also abused.

Ok, so she's got issues. Haven't we all, of some kind or another? That is absolutely no excuse for being such a foul-mouthed bitch. I bet she has been foul-mouthed all her life, not just since the baby episode. What is her child going to be like when it grows up? What's worse, Farrah is just one of many spoiled brats who are going to breed even more spoiled brats. When I see people, usually women, behave like this, I often wonder what on earth are their parents like? I despair often.

Hm. I wonder what's your excuse?

I agree that you have to take into consideration what has happened to people, I think it is ridiculous when people at work say "leave your personal problems at the door" as if we can switch them off like a robot.

But saying that there's ways to deal with it (and you need to deal with it if it affects other people) and I don't think being a reality show villain is the best!

People like Farrah operate on a tautology that they have to be hard and defensive and fight all the time because "you have to" and they justify this when people react to their aggression by fighting back by saying, "there told you so". A bit like people who constantly go on about it being a dog eat dog world but it only is because there's people like that!

I can see how your boyfriend dying can cause a loss of "love of life". My point was, she has had a tough past and the way she is is clearly how she is dealing with it. Ultra defensive because of her upbringing and clearly doesn't know how to act in social situations. Not an excuse, more a note

[quote=EnricoIV;79562274]Hm. I wonder what's your excuse?

What's yours?

My excuse? I don't need excuses. Like I said, we've all had problems and traumas through our lives, and I'm no exception but I wouldn't dream of using such foul language towards other people, showing such disrespect in the process. No-one should ever use what's happened to them in the past as an excuse for such revolting behaviour. It's almost as if she has Tourettes and doesn't have control over what she is saying or doing.

I wasn't the one criticizing someone for being foul-mouthed all the while, being foul-mouthed themselves.

i shall answer that with your own words:

But you don't mind using it towards her.

Strip away any of her so called issues, problems, traumas and you are left with quite an aggressive and nasty character. I'm not sold on the softer inside person that some people want to believe is there.

I think there is room for improvement, but honestly I think she is not very bright and full of venom.

Again:

I agree, it's not an excuse. I can empathise - we have all had bad things happen to us after all, some worse than others. It is no excuse, however, for talking the way she does to people. Should we just take a person talking that way because we have to remember they have had problems in the past? Not react? No, of course not. Being insulted should never be accepted.

She is a grown woman, she talks about respect all the time - forgetting it has to be earned. She talks about being in therapy, but it's obviously not working. She makes her own career choices now as an adult, she could have got out of the reality game at any time once she was old enough to make her own decisions but has made decisions to attempt to continue her 'career' as she has. These are her choices.

Swearing and calling people names are also her choices. We all do it when pushed, she does it when not pushed too. I understand the occasional loss of temper, eg. Natasha finally snapping, but when it's a constant and you can count the quiet moments, something's definitely wrong.

It is not, however, for the person she's yelling/screaching/swearing at/calling names to put up with. Farrah's issues are her own, she seems to want to make them other peoples' problems too.

I agree.

Did someone say there was a soft person inside? I think there's a damaged person inside. Of course there's room for improvement. Who doesn't have that? But I haven't seen anything to make me think she's unintelligent.

Nasty, nasty, vicious girl.

I've seen that 'Teen Mom' program before. I remember Farrah's mum coming across as a crazy bitch as well so it's not hard to see where Farrah gets it from.

please dont assume her child is going to be a spoilt brat that is really unfair.

She is doing everything to be a better parent than her parents were to her
(her parents were horrible to her and her sister it is all well documented)

her mother was arrested for assualting her.

its all in google ,shes been raped lifes not been good to her emotionaly.


she seems like a good mum her daughter seems a very happy little girl .