I agree. Say what you like about her but I have not seen any evidence of her being a bad mother. Bringing her child into this does not make you any better of a person than she is.

If everyone who had problems behaved as she did we would be a in a sorry state of a world, most people seem to realise that and not carry on being so hate filled towards others. We none of us can use our pasts as an excuse to abuse others we have to take responsibility and try to be nicer.

I am one who tries to leave my baggage at the door and not inflict it on others at work, I would imagine many nurses and doctors and firepersons etc have difficult lives luckily they don't carry on like Farrah and do leave their baggage at the door.

I'm no fan of hers at all but it's a very, very sad story indeed, a series of tragedies even, and I'm sure it did her no good becoming rich and 'famous' on TV off the back of it

I can well see why it's shaped her as the woman she is today.

In last night's HLs she mentioned she's been having therapy and that a lot stems from her mother, I was impressed she was open about that (I think she needed to be, but didn't expect that from the rest of her we've seen). Unfortunately some deeper empathy wasn't shown to result from the other HMs - I hope there is and we just haven't seen it (yet?).

Many of the other HMs seem to have long speculated or deduced that she's a product of her past.

I was a bit surprised then both that Scoop said in the same show that her behaviour is nothing compared to many American women (he is from Harlem though right? - tough area that) and that that comment hasn't been picked up on in the forum here. But from what I've seen here comments like that that are only used to bash UK HMs which I cannot fathom

Anyway, back to Farrah, and I don't think she should be in that house. Just the latest to be exploited by BB production, and the resulting glee from Emma, Rylan about what 'amazing' TV it is just just sickening, I'm glad this is my last ever BB of any kind (decided back during the farce that was BB16, following on from BB16). It's sheer exploitation of very damaged people, this time with a nasty nationalistic reason to stir up trouble (with arguably the four craziest people in there all happening to be the original four female US HMs)

Plenty of people have been through far worse, but they don't act like complete pr*cks.

I should point out though, whenever I've seen her on the teen mom program, she did always look like she was a good mum to her little girl. She was just a complete nightmare to everyone else.

Everyone deals with trauma and grief in different ways. Some people move on with their lives and other people put barriers up and become quite cold and resentful. You can't Put everyone in the same boat.

everyone deals with it differently, she left the state her parents lived in to start again and they followed her she supports them both .
She is trying to improve herself therapy with her mother.

nobody really knows how they would be , she is damaged which is really sad for someone so young

So do you think and believe that she doesn't use foul language in front of/towards her daughter? If she doesn't, then that proves that she can control it and that she has no respect for her housemates.

Quite a few do, just not given TV shows to publicise it and get rich. I knew one who turned to drugs. A guy overdosed in his flat and died so he dragged him out and just dumped him in the street, not before stealing his trainers. It doesn't get much worse than that in my book.

Others commit suicide, or are tortured by their demons all their lives. Many will have put a brave face on things on the outside, even appeared completely normal, but inside they're far from it.

Quite a number of our homeless are disabled war veterans, traumatised and not helped enough by a government and country they were sent out to do the dirtiest of work for. These aren't folk who were abused/exploited/etc during their developing years necessarily - their trauma came when they were already strong, robust adults. But there is only so much anyone can take.

Very many cope amazingly, which is wonderful, but very many don't. We just don't know with Farrah from only BB - all we see is that hard outside. I think she could be in real trouble once the money's gone and TV's over for her, the expensive therapy and ass-kissing hangers on have gone. I feel very sorry for her. It's not too late to turn it around, but there's no sign I've seen so far she's going the right way about it.

she can control it she doesnt swear on teen mum
why should she check herself ,they are all swearing in the house
her daughter is not with her she can swear all she wants .

I don't care about her history I just love her as a HM.

In answer to the original question..er yes..she lies, she spits out her dummy, she throws out all her toys, and then she repeats...................................

Lol i don't think she's said anything that bad really. Often she just reacts badly toward the Brits deliberately pushing the cold foul mouthed b*tch, angle in full knowledge that there's an audience outside lapping it up. The Brits know how to play this game, she doesn't so i'm not surprised she's coming off badly.

Plus i found it really touching that she could talk about her issues on last night's hl's in front of a room full of people asking her to open up. She was at that point visibly in an emotionally calm and giving place as she talked about problems in her past. Que further complaint that she's cold from James But there ya go, that's James. And Farrah's worth 10 of that slimy douche.

She is a dark, troubled soul that has been dealt some tough shiz to deal with, she has been in therapy since I started watching the show, so I think she is trying to improve. Being "famous" has only darkened her soul IMO

Her parents are awful, her Mum is completely crazy, most recent episodes show how her mum is always on the phone asking for money for whatever chemical peel or plastic surgery procedure she wants now. It's all quite sad, but AGAIN I will say it is no excuse. Grief is a terrible thing and everyone deals with it so differently, clearly she assumes the world is out to get her

Damn it, I can't find my violin

I can certainly believe that. If only she could open up, but of course she can't - why would you to a group of strangers, and that's not why she's there for BB or what BB is all about (the rare exception apart)

I don't like her behaviour, think she should have been kicked out already for threatening to kill the others etc, but do understand now what's made her like that. The non-secret 'secret' house is likely a ruse to keep her in as the dancing elves Willis and Rylan dance all over someone's tortured psyche imo, whereas the best thing for Farrah would be a silent exit away from that baying mob which will only do her more damage quite probably

I hope for her sake she redeems herself and comes out to a half decent reaction, but it doesn't look likely at this stage.

I still think Scoop's comment that she's 'tame' compared to most American girls (or whatever he said) was wrong - even if his intentions and experiences in Harlem (a really tough place) were true of heart, and the fact this hasn't been picked up on this forum that I've seen whilst Brits are bashed left, right and centre for anything they say, is evidence of (reverse?) jingoism at best, but that's for another thread.

All very sad

so . . . why is she a gobshite ?

She felt it her duty to invent a new star sign........................................

And Farrah is accused of not being a nice person. Oh dear sometimes I just have to shake my head in disbelief.

The only other person in that house with a mouth nearly as foul as hers is Jenna. Nobody else is using such terrible language as she is.

Last time I saw it this guy was playing with it.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/small-violin.gif

Farrah had a hard life? well boo f****n who, i've had a hard life & i didn't turn out like a **** like Farrah , excuses excuses

She is still a charmless foul mouthed bully.

Just because this has happened to her doesn't mean that excuses her being malicious. The level of her enjoying arguments and upsetting people is borderline sadistic!