Looks like BB haven't decided how many HM they want to be involved in the vote yet. I wouldn't be surprised if they have everyone who recieved even one nom up
Who nominated who and why (spoiler)
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Seems as if Bobby Davro was deliberately starting an argument by poking the bear, it was second in nastiness to Helen Woods OTT nomination of Harry earlier in the year. Even Jenna said she wouldn't have been as tolerant as Farrah if Bobby had said those things about her.
As somebody pointed out; he heard the chants last night and is now playing to the gallery.
As somebody pointed out; he heard the chants last night and is now playing to the gallery.
Originally Posted by rhizo_mania:
“Slept with his best mates wife, Wayne Dobson a mate of some 30 years who is paralysed from the neck down.”
“Slept with his best mates wife, Wayne Dobson a mate of some 30 years who is paralysed from the neck down.”
was she satisfied ?
I had not heard anything about Bobby Davro for years so looked him up and found this very sad story.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...st-friend.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...st-friend.html
Originally Posted by Gravitational:
“So only Farrah, Stevi and Chloe and Gail are up. Quite boring options.”
“So only Farrah, Stevi and Chloe and Gail are up. Quite boring options.”
Not really. Gail out.
Originally Posted by Venetian:
“Quite so. There is much talk on the show (and sometimes here on DS) that this is the American way "we talk straight ... we say it like it is .... we don't hide our light under a bushel .... " and on and on. I've spent quite a bit of time in the US of A and have never met anyone who fits the criteria I have just outlined, my personal view is that they are more polite than we are here in the UK and yes, they can be straight talking but always with purpose and never with the venom displayed by Farrah. The Americans in the house are totally non-representative of their nation but no doubt they are what BB wanted to inflict on us
”
“Quite so. There is much talk on the show (and sometimes here on DS) that this is the American way "we talk straight ... we say it like it is .... we don't hide our light under a bushel .... " and on and on. I've spent quite a bit of time in the US of A and have never met anyone who fits the criteria I have just outlined, my personal view is that they are more polite than we are here in the UK and yes, they can be straight talking but always with purpose and never with the venom displayed by Farrah. The Americans in the house are totally non-representative of their nation but no doubt they are what BB wanted to inflict on us
”
Good post, I would agree absolutely.
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I am fully aware of the editing process and of course there could be more to the arguments. Reading between the lines though and listening to others speak it does appear she erupts over nothing - people looking at her for example or daring to put something on her bed.
TBH - I don't think most of them appear to be the 'provoking' kind - do you?
You can't edit in the foul mouthed tirades (whatever started them off) - I can't imagine anything that warrants that kind of abuse.”
“I am fully aware of the editing process and of course there could be more to the arguments. Reading between the lines though and listening to others speak it does appear she erupts over nothing - people looking at her for example or daring to put something on her bed.
TBH - I don't think most of them appear to be the 'provoking' kind - do you?
You can't edit in the foul mouthed tirades (whatever started them off) - I can't imagine anything that warrants that kind of abuse.”
She felt he was judging her and she was right
Farrah - "why are you staring at me"
James - "you have lip-gloss for every hour of the day"
She's hot headed and takes no prisoners but her reaction in this instance is based on a rational thought process. You seem to think she blows up out of NOTHING
And what is the provoking type - Jim Davidson?
Bobby Davro confirmed he was playing the "game" in the argument where Farrah complained he'd left something on her bed. game players are often wind up merchants, we rarely can confirm it either way but if he says he's playing the game he could well be winding Farrah up to score some easy points. The point is you don't have the context to back up such harsh criticism's of her.
And you're correct she certainly does get angry and mouth off, my point is none of us know what provocation precede these tirades. If you don't care about that then you have no basis for an opinion other than on her tirades and certainly not her as a person that blows up out of nothing.
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“let he without sin cast the first stone.”
“let he without sin cast the first stone.”
In which case nominations need to be scrapped. I keep saying it was a nomination first and foremost. His reasons were perfect in my view as they totally summed Farrah up as she has behaved in he House. Apparently Davro has cheated on his wife and cheated with a friend's wife and goodness knows what else but unless he cheated with Chloe
in the House that is all irrelevant. Having said that if Farrah actually listened to Davro's nomination and took it properly to heart it would only serve her well inside and outside the House.
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“What he said and the way he said it is very wrong. He's not her dad, there was no need for him to pontificate nor to be so bleeding pompous. She's never pretended to be on someone side and then stabbed them in the back (or in this case the front). He's a pretentious, pompous, prick. I've been told he's a comedian, no wonder I've never heard of him.
He's twice her age, there was no need for him to be so hurtful and vicious.”
“What he said and the way he said it is very wrong. He's not her dad, there was no need for him to pontificate nor to be so bleeding pompous. She's never pretended to be on someone side and then stabbed them in the back (or in this case the front). He's a pretentious, pompous, prick. I've been told he's a comedian, no wonder I've never heard of him.
He's twice her age, there was no need for him to be so hurtful and vicious.”
bib - there is no need for any of them to be hurtful and vicious, however it happens. It may not be right but it has been happening throughout the show from Farrah, and others, and - much as it may not have been nice to hear, it was his thoughts and he - like Farrah or anybody else - had a right to express them.
Rather than swearing at her and spitting venom, he hit her with the pity card, obviously an attempt to fire shots at the heart of what she finds important, which swearing and shouting wouldn't do. It was pretty harsh, but I doubt it hit it's mark so probably a waste of words. I am afraid I can't quite feel sorry for her, although I haven't yet seen the footage to see how she reacted (other than what she said verbally).
Not quite sure what age has to do with it, they are both adults behaving in a less than dignified manner. What he did was, in many ways, to lower himself to her level - or at least nearer to her level (but not quite as he didn't shout or swear). I wonder if there would be the same reaction (here and in the house) if a woman (eg. Sherrie) had made this speech.
He used to be a successful comedian, yes - but of course he's not now or else he'd not be on CBB
No real celebs go into BB 
(from any nation)
Originally Posted by rhizo_mania:
“Slept with his best mates wife, Wayne Dobson a mate of some 30 years who is paralysed from the neck down.”
“Slept with his best mates wife, Wayne Dobson a mate of some 30 years who is paralysed from the neck down.”
Well, Wayne Dobson alleges this, both the wife and Davro deny it. A 'friend' told Wayne this apparently, he then decided to release the story to the press at the same time as Davro going into CBB. There is just an allegation so far.
Originally Posted by Bacon&Eggs:
“I can't quite believe the faith that people have in BB's editing process. The "NOTHING" in this case is created when BB says cut that bit there and splice that bit in over here. This argument is so old i don't see how people fall for it year in year out. You're getting a caricature... not reality. Are you're judgements based on a caricature or reality?”
“I can't quite believe the faith that people have in BB's editing process. The "NOTHING" in this case is created when BB says cut that bit there and splice that bit in over here. This argument is so old i don't see how people fall for it year in year out. You're getting a caricature... not reality. Are you're judgements based on a caricature or reality?”
As Scoop said last night, they can't edit what you don't say or do (or words to that effect)
Originally Posted by Bacon&Eggs:
“She felt he was judging her and she was right
Farrah - "why are you staring at me"
James - "you have lip-gloss for every hour of the day"
She's hot headed and takes no prisoners but her reaction in this instance is based on a rational thought process. You seem to think she blows up out of NOTHING
And what is the provoking type - Jim Davidson?
Bobby Davro confirmed he was playing the "game" in the argument where Farrah complained he'd left something on her bed. game players are often wind up merchants, we rarely can confirm it either way but if he says he's playing the game he could well be winding Farrah up to score some easy points. The point is you don't have the context to back up such harsh criticism's of her.
And you're correct she certainly does get angry and mouth off, my point is none of us know what provocation precede these tirades. If you don't care about that then you have no basis for an opinion other than on her tirades and certainly not her as a person that blows up out of nothing.”
“She felt he was judging her and she was right
Farrah - "why are you staring at me"
James - "you have lip-gloss for every hour of the day"
She's hot headed and takes no prisoners but her reaction in this instance is based on a rational thought process. You seem to think she blows up out of NOTHING
And what is the provoking type - Jim Davidson?
Bobby Davro confirmed he was playing the "game" in the argument where Farrah complained he'd left something on her bed. game players are often wind up merchants, we rarely can confirm it either way but if he says he's playing the game he could well be winding Farrah up to score some easy points. The point is you don't have the context to back up such harsh criticism's of her.
And you're correct she certainly does get angry and mouth off, my point is none of us know what provocation precede these tirades. If you don't care about that then you have no basis for an opinion other than on her tirades and certainly not her as a person that blows up out of nothing.”
Maybe the 'visual' and contextual evidence is hard to prove but I'm relatively happy to take the HM's views on it - it would appear that most of them feel she blows up over nothing - I think that sort of backs up my own take.
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“As Scoop said last night, they can't edit what you don't say or do (or words to that effect)”
“As Scoop said last night, they can't edit what you don't say or do (or words to that effect)
”
OOH! who buys their crimbo crackers from Aldi then
I'll refer you to the well known Charlie Brooker youtube vid which squashes the myth.
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“In which case nominations need to be scrapped. I keep saying it was a nomination first and foremost. His reasons were perfect in my view as they totally summed Farrah up as she has behaved in he House. Apparently Davro has cheated on his wife and cheated with a friend's wife and goodness knows what else but unless he cheated with Chloe in the House that is all irrelevant. Having said that if Farrah actually listened to Davro's nomination and took it properly to heart it would only serve her well inside and outside the House.”
“In which case nominations need to be scrapped. I keep saying it was a nomination first and foremost. His reasons were perfect in my view as they totally summed Farrah up as she has behaved in he House. Apparently Davro has cheated on his wife and cheated with a friend's wife and goodness knows what else but unless he cheated with Chloe
in the House that is all irrelevant. Having said that if Farrah actually listened to Davro's nomination and took it properly to heart it would only serve her well inside and outside the House.”
Sometimes is not what you say ....it's the way you say it.
Last night on live feed Sherrie said that she seen a side to Bobby she has never seen before ...
Bobby needs to drop the "young lady" and " sweetheart" remarks
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Originally Posted by Bacon&Eggs:
“OOH! who buys their crimbo crackers from Aldi then
I'll refer you to the well known Charlie Brooker youtube vid which squashes the myth.”
“OOH! who buys their crimbo crackers from Aldi then
I'll refer you to the well known Charlie Brooker youtube vid which squashes the myth.”
I'm sure we've witnessed this kind of thing many times on reality TV. Even when a camera just pans on someone's face and they're in repose but just because the camera goes on them you imagine the look means something. Though of course even more when the look is someone giving daggers or just looking irritated you imagine that facial expression is to do with what is going on but it might have nothing to do with it or may even be from a different time. However Farrah has spoken and acted completely aggressively and nastily and that happened.
The only contention here seems to be what happened before to possibly excuse her extreme behaviour and reaction. I think this is where the editing argument falls apart because from everything we've witnessed or heard of from live feed and clips absolutely none of it was worthy of Farrah's response and Jenna during wardrobe-gate well in my opinion anyway.
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“Sometimes is not what you say ....it's the way you say it.
Last night on live feed Sherrie said that she seen a side to Bobby she has never seen before ...
Bobby needs to drop the "young lady" and " sweetheart" remarks”
“Sometimes is not what you say ....it's the way you say it.
Last night on live feed Sherrie said that she seen a side to Bobby she has never seen before ...
Bobby needs to drop the "young lady" and " sweetheart" remarks”
I'm watching the show on catch up so will see how he spoke then but I thought he was calm it was just the content that was hard for Farrah to take.
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Maybe the 'visual' and contextual evidence is hard to prove but I'm relatively happy to take the HM's views on it - it would appear that most of them feel she blows up over nothing - I think that sort of backs up my own take.”
“Maybe the 'visual' and contextual evidence is hard to prove but I'm relatively happy to take the HM's views on it - it would appear that most of them feel she blows up over nothing - I think that sort of backs up my own take.”
You're take is based on a leading edit imo, BB want Farrah to be this years Sinner and edit her as such. Then you go to the players for confirmation who also have realized how Farrah is being portrayed - the sinner.
Not to mention the group dynamic and it's group think which is likely to pull the innocent non game players like Sherrie into towing the party line.
That is the game and imo you're opinions are being manipulated by it.
Originally Posted by strato222:
“Scoop will have nominated Brits, and Sherrie and Gail will have nominated soft people who won't shout at them.”
“Scoop will have nominated Brits, and Sherrie and Gail will have nominated soft people who won't shout at them.”
Two out of three. I think I'm beginning to hate Gail.
Originally Posted by Bacon&Eggs:
“You're take is based on a leading edit imo, BB want Farrah to be this years Sinner and edit her as such. Then you go to the players for confirmation who also have realized how Farrah is being portrayed - the sinner.
Not to mention the group dynamic and it's group think which is likely to pull the innocent non game players like Sherrie into towing the party line.
That is the game and imo you're opinions are being manipulated by it.”
“You're take is based on a leading edit imo, BB want Farrah to be this years Sinner and edit her as such. Then you go to the players for confirmation who also have realized how Farrah is being portrayed - the sinner.
Not to mention the group dynamic and it's group think which is likely to pull the innocent non game players like Sherrie into towing the party line.
That is the game and imo you're opinions are being manipulated by it.”
OK - I'm sure she's perfectly lovely.
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“Sometimes is not what you say ....it's the way you say it.
Last night on live feed Sherrie said that she seen a side to Bobby she has never seen before ...
Bobby needs to drop the "young lady" and " sweetheart" remarks”
“Sometimes is not what you say ....it's the way you say it.
Last night on live feed Sherrie said that she seen a side to Bobby she has never seen before ...
Bobby needs to drop the "young lady" and " sweetheart" remarks”
This. If he really wanted to help Farrah he would have delivered the same message using non-provacative language - a far better chance then that Farrah would take his comments on board.
The words he used were meant to hurt which in my view go right back to their argument a few days ago, whatever she said to him stung and this was payback pure and simple.
Well .......................I've watched it now. All I can say is - she had that coming to her IMO - what goes around comes around.
Bravo Bobby.
Bravo Bobby.
Originally Posted by Venetian:
“Quite so. There is much talk on the show (and sometimes here on DS) that this is the American way "we talk straight ... we say it like it is .... we don't hide our light under a bushel .... " and on and on. I've spent quite a bit of time in the US of A and have never met anyone who fits the criteria I have just outlined, my personal view is that they are more polite than we are here in the UK and yes, they can be straight talking but always with purpose and never with the venom displayed by Farrah. The Americans in the house are totally non-representative of their nation but no doubt they are what BB wanted to inflict on us”
“Quite so. There is much talk on the show (and sometimes here on DS) that this is the American way "we talk straight ... we say it like it is .... we don't hide our light under a bushel .... " and on and on. I've spent quite a bit of time in the US of A and have never met anyone who fits the criteria I have just outlined, my personal view is that they are more polite than we are here in the UK and yes, they can be straight talking but always with purpose and never with the venom displayed by Farrah. The Americans in the house are totally non-representative of their nation but no doubt they are what BB wanted to inflict on us
”
I totally agree with you Venetian. I have lived in New York, my brother has lived in Tucson and Florida and my cousin lives in Georgia (point being different parts of the country) and I don't think any of the HMs we have had are representative of the many Americans I have known or lived among.
I just watched the norms again, twice (sad), and I am sure Jenna was only nominated once, by Sherrie.
So why is she on the eviction list? 5 other HMs only had one nomination and they are not up.
Do they hope Farrah and Jenna will be both "evicted" so they can go into the secret room together.
The double twist sounds like a disaster in the making to me, yet another anti climactic mess.
So why is she on the eviction list? 5 other HMs only had one nomination and they are not up.
Do they hope Farrah and Jenna will be both "evicted" so they can go into the secret room together.
The double twist sounds like a disaster in the making to me, yet another anti climactic mess.
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