She didn't say it was a side she disagreed with or didn't like though

bib - there it is again - he's a man, she's a girl???? I don't get that, but see it a lot.

He's a man, she's a woman (24 years old). They are both grown ups and responsible for their own actions, she's not a child (much as she acts like one).

Reality tells me you're right...........Bobby did what most of us think but would refrain from doing for the reasons you state !

For me it's a bit of both. He seized the opportunity in a situation where he thought she'd be unable to fight back, he had an audience. It was manipulative and I do think he'd rehearsed it in his head a few times, he barely paused for breath and I don't think he even stumbled over his words once.

On the other hand, he was expressing a view many of them share but didn't want to say, wouldn't dare say. Whether he did it to make her change her ways or simply to appear the hero, or even to just get it off his chest, he knew he had a captive audience and less chance of a fight erupting.

Was it harsh, yes it was. It was his opinion though and apparently being frank and 'telling it like it is' is what many of the housemates want and what many of the viewers want too, judging by recent support for some very 'in your face' and vocally provocative housemates.

Is it Bobby's job to tip-toe around Farrah because she has 'issues'? No. Is it his job to try and change her, no. However, it is his right to express his opinion - especially as he'd been invited by BB to be frank, he certainly was that!

If he thought she was heading into the Diary Room to say she'd had an epiphany and would start to consider her behaviour and her fellow housemates, tone her behaviour down, he would be wrong.

She doesn't think she's done anything wrong at all, not sure Bobby does either - and it's up to individuals to decide if they agree with that or not - but he at least was aware that he may have gone too far, even if only because it could affect his duration on BB.

Absolutely.

Why should she be given special consideration just because she is female and younger than him? She is more than over the age of being considered to be an adult so it should be a level playing field.

Also, if we are going to talk about old fashioned values, what happened to 'respecting your elders'? She hasn't been doing too much of that with Bobby or others.

They are both adults. She gives it out, she needs to be able to take it and if she can't, if she doesn't want to be attacked as Bobby did tonight, she should think more about what she says to others.

That, to my min, was all he was doing. Giving her a taste of her own medicine. But instead of recognising that, she accuses him of having 'satan' inside him.

Well, frankly, any God that has Farrah as an Advocate, Disciple or example turns me totally off Religion.

I could not agree more, well said, great response and I 100% agree with you!

Spot on and if she shouts and screams like that what must she be like as a mother to her 8 year old daughter. I despair, I really do!

Well said.

I'm a great believer in assuming that everybody you meet has as many, if not more problems than you and should be treated with kindness and respect. I also believe that nobody is 'evil' and if they act out, there are probably underlying reasons, historical trauma or sadness usually and again should be treated with kindness and respect.

But there are limits.

Trying to understand and be kind to others does not mean you should be a doormat and never answer back to somebody who is consistently offensive, abusive and vile to you and others around you - even if you suspect it comes from sadness in their lives.

There comes a point where "you reap what you sow' has to come into play. Farrah is nasty to others, saying they don't deserve her respect so she has to expect people to treat her the same way - to be nasty and not respect her.

That's easy for you to say when you haven't lived in the house with Farrah like Bobby has. Not many would put up with her vile mouth and what comes out of it. She is a very intimidating young woman and deserved everything she got in my opinion.

Exactly this, I totally agree. In life my motto is respect others and they will respect you. People can only take so much and Farrah went too far!

It was OTT for a nomination but, then, he probably didn't have the balls to say it to her in a conversation.

Yes, i'm the same.

I respect and then hope/expect to be respected back. But the initial respect comes from me.

I honestly don't understand how anybody (not just Farrah, anybody) can expect to be respected if they don't offer any as their basic 'greeting' to others.

I have come across it in 'real life'. People saying they don't respect anybody until they've earnt it and that mindset and attitude has always baffled me.

I'm not sure Farrah does conversation. On Live Feed right now Scoop is trying to get Farrah and James to have a conversation without her sniping and with him giving her a chance. She talks over people and snipes, bites - she can't help it. Her first reaction to being spoken to seems to be to assume she's being attacked. How do you converse with somebody who isn't willing to stop and listen to your part of the conversation (as well as, obviously, you being prepared to listen to theirs)?

thought he was really nasty,and very calculating he could have taken Farrah aside and spoke to her privately. he had to have an audience

And then she would just have shouted, screamed, told Jenna her version.

The way he did it meant that there could be no doubt as to what was said. Everybody heard it. And, because face to face nominations can be discussed afterwards, everybody could give their opinion on it, consoling Farrah and saying Bobby was too harsh if that is how they felt.

He can't be accused of hiding his opinions in the diary room or sniping to other house mates after that can he.

She needs to hear some home truths, had she received such earlier in her life we wouldn't be paying witness to this nasty intimidating woman that has zero self control or awareness.

Farrah needs to realise you dish it you gotta learn to take it. After what she said regarding Bobby personal life Bobby had the right to retaliate in any manner in which he senn as being fit for him. He's been patient and its clearly built up, rather than getting ill he did right to get it off his chest. Her reaction supported his views.

I personally blame her parents for letting her carrying on like she does without her being rained in, she a parent herself and should know how to conduct herself in the right socially acceptable manner.

Yes she's entertaining but in real life she'll be the real loser.

Of course farrah would've twisted it all, made out he was aggressive towards a woman and all the rest, he did the right thing airing it in front off them all imo. If anything it also showed Jenna up too.

I must admit there is a lot of inequality with men being unable to retaliate in the same way as a women when they have some altercation or another. the men in there have had to hold back with farrah because she'll play on the fact she's a woman and a man shouldn't talk back to her in the way that she does. Well why not they have ever right to give her as good as she gets. gender shouldn't come into it. But the boys are clearly cautious of it as has been evident from James on multiple occasions, they know it'll look bad to the public. Well it shouldn't, women that choose to engage in foul mouthed rants should expect the same back, rather than assuming their gender is a free pass to act disgustingly towards the men without fearing any repercussions. it really is a worrying mind set that men should stand there and simply take it due to a fear of looking like some overpowering bully being cruel to a weaker woman??????

If station or age is being called into it too, May be people need to consider than the social rules of respecting your elders. Farrah has no respect for any of them and therefore shouldn't expect any in return.

Exactly.

I mentioned 'respecting your elders' as a response to those envoking 'old fashioned' values as to why a middle aged man shouldn't attack a younger woman.

Usually i would agree that an older person 'should know better' and 'not lower themself' but all Queensbury Rules are kind of out when dealing with somebody like Farrah.

I am a woman. I am a woman who considers themselves a fighter for equal rights and i have gone out of my way to defend women in my life, including fighting for getting them better pay and similar. I would be the first person to call out any Man that attacked a woman simply because they are a woman. Ewually another woman attacking another for no reason except envy or jealousy.

That is not what is happening here.

And it is as demeaning to women to say that they can't fight on an even playing field and/or should be allowed to get away with treating any man like dirt with no comeback just because they are women.

I would not have had the guts to say what he did but he was right to say it. He was entirely accurate and she deserved to hear it. And what's more, she instantly proved him right with her reaction. I wish they had cut the DR shit out though, she's too stupid to be allowed air time all on her own. She can't even put a sentence together. What was she even going on about? And then she got going with the god nonsense...

Just shut up! Stupid idiot.

Great post

Reflecting on it now I think the nominations situation may have provide bobby with a chance to get his overall opinion out there without being interrupted and having Farrah remain quite rather than her attack him as would normally happen with her profanities. Also it was safe for him to address her in a group, with the protection of bb paying close attention as it was a live task, and having the British public tuned in.

just pure rambling isn't it?

'god, strong woman, profanities, independent, jerk, nobodies, American, jealous, childish, attacked, threat, famous, yadda yadda yadda'' zzzzzzzz

Its the same shite every time just in a different order

I feel this is wide of the mark. Watching her other show, her mother always criticised her and put her down, she apparently even beat the girl.

What's the saying "praise the youth and it will prosper", well I'd say implicit within that, the opposite is also true.

I'd venture her parents are the reason she is as defensive as she is and is like what she is like.

I found her attitude and speech towards her mother very disrespectful and quite brattish. Yes they were heated at times but Farrah went out of her way to do the opposite of what her mother asked her to do. On many occasions she just went out with men or her friends and left the baby with her mother even though they spoken about her behaviour on many occasions.

As for her defensiveness I don't think going on national TV as a teen mom the best direction for her in such a difficult situation as it was, yes she gained financially but her behaviour was judged by the masses in an understandably negative way. Obviously she's become someone that's used to being attacked and judged and naturally acts in a defensive way now but at the end of it all she put herself up to that public judgement as she is now. I don't think she play hard done by when she brings such judgements upon herself as she is answerable and responsible for the way she conducts herself.

I found her mother to be harsh and critical, rarely if ever, showing any love towards her.

It doesn't surprise me to read that she was arresting for assaulting Farrah years later.


She was defensive from the inception of the Teen Mom show, that leads me to believe it emanates from what she experienced at home, not anything to do with the public.