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Tall Paul
10-09-2015
Originally Posted by Stuart25:
“Seriously? It's been a year!! Look, I liked Pixie last year, but if you just took a look at Twitter, Facebook, Daily Mail etc. she didn't have a lot of support, and that's probably why she ended up in the dance off. The dance off itself was extremely close and I'd have been pushed to vote for either of them; looking back I'd say Simon's was the better dance, but Pixie had been a fantastic dancer up to that point.

It's done and dusted. Move on.”

Baffles me why so many people buy the daily mail, either their right wing conservatives or they just believe the articles. I think the daily mail are the most manipulative paper of all and are very crafty with hand picking what they want to put in the articles.

Strikes me that the presenters like shocks as well as they think it keeps it interesting, not really IMHO. Seems to me that certain viewers instead of thinking it's a dance competition think it's a game show instead and will vote like it's a game show as well. Trouble is it cheapens scd really.

NotaTypo
10-09-2015
My fave eliminated early or unfairly =/= conspiracy.

Sometimes an elimination is just an elimination.
Tall Paul
10-09-2015
Originally Posted by NotaTypo:
“My fave eliminated early or unfairly =/= conspiracy.

Sometimes an elimination is just an elimination.”

Swear some of the sunetra and simon supporters wanted her to be eliminated wheras Caroline supporters such as myself wanted her to stay as scd as well as an entertainment show is a dancing competition as well.

What the producers should do if the judges can't come to an agreement is for the vote to go back to the public just like they do on TXF. That is a fairer way of doing things IMHO. About time bbc listened to us more, rather than pursuing their agenda.

dancing.queen
10-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“Swear some of the sunetra and simon supporters wanted her to be eliminated wheras Caroline supporters such as myself wanted her to stay as scd as well as an entertainment show is a dancing competition as well.

What the producers should do if the judges can't come to an agreement is for the vote to go back to the public just like they do on TXF. That is a fairer way of doing things IMHO. About time bbc listened to us more, rather than pursuing their agenda.

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Pixie would probably have been at the bottom of the vote, you know, considering the majoirity of people didn't like her.
DingDong08
10-09-2015
Originally Posted by dancing.queen:
“Pixie would probably have been at the bottom of the vote, you know, considering the majoirity of people didn't like her.”

And you know this how?
StigOfTheKrump
10-09-2015
Originally Posted by dancing.queen:
“Pixie would probably have been at the bottom of the vote, you know, considering the majoirity of people didn't like her.”

That isn't even remotely true, but hey... (the truth of the matter is that the other five contestants were more popular that night and Simon danced better in the dance-off, nothing more nothing less). Move on, OP.
Tall Paul
10-09-2015
Originally Posted by dancing.queen:
“Pixie would probably have been at the bottom of the vote, you know, considering the majoirity of people didn't like her.”

I don't buy that statement at all to be honest, think it's totally incorrect. About time people started to vote as if it was a dancing comp rather than a game show.

beebopbabsie
11-09-2015
[quote=Tall Paul;79582562]Swear some of the sunetra and simon supporters wanted her to be eliminated wheras Caroline supporters such as myself wanted her to stay as scd as well as an entertainment show is a dancing competition as well.

What the producers should do if the judges can't come to an agreement is for the vote to go back to the public just like they do on TXF. That is a fairer way of doing things IMHO. About time bbc listened to us more, rather than pursuing their agenda.

People are voting for their favourite, not who they want to see kicked out so its not like the Sunetra and Simon supporters were conspiring to kick out Pixie. Fact is she didn't get enough votes to save her from the dance off and then Simon won the dance off. That is it. Time to move on.
Tall Paul
11-09-2015
[quote=beebopbabsie;79586170]
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“Swear some of the sunetra and simon supporters wanted her to be eliminated wheras Caroline supporters such as myself wanted her to stay as scd as well as an entertainment show is a dancing competition as well.

What the producers should do if the judges can't come to an agreement is for the vote to go back to the public just like they do on TXF. That is a fairer way of doing things IMHO. About time bbc listened to us more, rather than pursuing their agenda.

People are voting for their favourite, not who they want to see kicked out so its not like the Sunetra and Simon supporters were conspiring to kick out Pixie. Fact is she didn't get enough votes to save her from the dance off and then Simon won the dance off. That is it. Time to move on.”

Think the producers need to give the presenters better scripts to be fair, the producers want it to be like a game show rather than a dancing competition.

Wish Christopher biggins and Marian keys weren't invited on ITT as they seem to manipulate us to vote the underdogs. Biggins makes himself a right twit on bbbots, why is it he has to appear on every spin off programme under the sun?

cwickham
11-09-2015
Originally Posted by DingDong08:
“And you know this how?”

It is mathematically certain that Pixie and Simon were the two least popular couples in the public vote, given how that's the only way you can get the result you did.
DingDong08
11-09-2015
Originally Posted by cwickham:
“It is mathematically certain that Pixie and Simon were the two least popular couples in the public vote, given how that's the only way you can get the result you did.”

I meant the second part.
memmh
11-09-2015
There's no denying the producers can, and do, manipulate things to a certain extent with regard to how they present the VTs. However, while the producers can try to influence the public vote, they can't control it, nor can they force a celeb to mess up and make mistakes. On that occasion, Pixie didn't get enough of the public vote to see her safely through, and Simon danced better in the dance-off. No betting scam or scandal, Pixie just didn't manage to pull it off on that night.
Tall Paul
11-09-2015
Originally Posted by memmh:
“There's no denying the producers can, and do, manipulate things to a certain extent with regard to how they present the VTs. However, while the producers can try to influence the public vote, they can't control it, nor can they force a celeb to mess up and make mistakes. On that occasion, Pixie didn't get enough of the public vote to see her safely through, and Simon danced better in the dance-off. No betting scam or scandal, Pixie just didn't manage to pull it off on that night.”

What is the email address for louise rainbow who obviously is the big boss of the show? Considering being quite annoyed with her and of the unfair casting vote rule in the dance off.

dancing.queen
11-09-2015
Originally Posted by DingDong08:
“I meant the second part. ”

As cwickham said, Pixie and Simon had to be at the bottom of the vote to end up in the bottom two - and there was a lot more negativity around Pixie on Twitter/Facebook/Dail Mail comments section.
Tall Paul
11-09-2015
Originally Posted by dancing.queen:
“As cwickham said, Pixie and Simon had to be at the bottom of the vote to end up in the bottom two - and there was a lot more negativity around Pixie on Twitter/Facebook/Dail Mail comments section.”

They obviously treat scd as a cheap and childish game show.

Tall Paul
11-09-2015
Also I doubt if some people who vote in scd actually watch the show properly, their casual voters obviously who are the sort to vote for fun.



To be fair I think scd is like a panto anyway to a certain degree because the judges get booed incessantly.
bendymixer
11-09-2015
it is a saturday entertainment show and as such the ones who are popular with the public will get the votes - yes some viewers will go purely on the dancing but the vast majority will vote for their fave - as is their right - if it was meant to be taken as a serious dance competition then your would not have a} a public vote b) get a panel of judges of Len's qualifications - and that will never be
memmh
11-09-2015
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“it is a saturday entertainment show and as such the ones who are popular with the public will get the votes - yes some viewers will go purely on the dancing but the vast majority will vote for their fave - as is their right - if it was meant to be taken as a serious dance competition then your would not have a} a public vote b) get a panel of judges of Len's qualifications - and that will never be”

And that's exactly why we're told to vote for our favourites, not who we think is best. Strictly is a light entertainment programme based around a dancing competition. While we may wish it were otherwise, the focus of Strictly is far more on the entertainment aspect than it is on the dancing, and it always has been.
aggs
11-09-2015
Originally Posted by memmh:
“And that's exactly why we're told to vote for our favourites, not who we think is best. Strictly is a light entertainment programme based around a dancing competition. While we may wish it were otherwise, the focus of Strictly is far more on the entertainment aspect than it is on the dancing, and it always has been.”

Strictly has never made any pretence of what it sees itself as - in the early days the voting lines opened virtually before the evicted couple had left the floor - so for the vast majority of the voting time you were either voting in advance or retrospect!

From the minute Chris Parker made the final by running round holding a cape over his head, Strictly's cards have been firmly on the table,
fredster
11-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“I don't buy that statement at all to be honest, think it's totally incorrect. About time people started to vote as if it was a dancing comp rather than a game show.

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If people did that John Sargeant and Ann Widdicombe would have gone out in the first round.Its a family show not to be taken to seriously .To still be bringing up last year when this year is about to start is rather silly.
Tall Paul
11-09-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Strictly has never made any pretence of what it sees itself as - in the early days the voting lines opened virtually before the evicted couple had left the floor - so for the vast majority of the voting time you were either voting in advance or retrospect!

From the minute Chris Parker made the final by running round holding a cape over his head, Strictly's cards have been firmly on the table,”

Some voters vote for it like a dancing competition and others vote as if it were like I've said in other posts a game show.
Janet43
12-09-2015
One of the few things I can remember about Pixie is one poster on here crying for days and being suicidal that she had been eliminated.

The first half of the serie is purely entertainment with viewers just voting for their favourite celeb regardless of ability, and the "duffers" gradually being voted off. It's not to the second half that there's any chance of voting on the dancing, and then it only takes one bad dance or something in a dance the viewers don't like - for me it was Pixie's ugly leg shapes - and they don't get the votes.

Unless there' a huge, and I mean really huge, block of people who take part in mass voting, I can't see how there could be a scam, and then it would be for voting to keep someone in - you can't vote someone out.
holly berry
12-09-2015
I don't think it was a betting scam. If there were any basis for that it would be subject to legal investigation.

Events on Strictly are contrived but always with plausible deniability so it's never possible to conclusively prove fixing one way or the other, especially when judges vote according to their own preferences. I would like to see the studio audience determine who wins a dance off. Of course this would diminish the role of the judges and make them seem a bit like performing monkeys who read out the lines written for them by others ...

so no change there then
Monkseal
12-09-2015
Originally Posted by cwickham:
“It is mathematically certain that Pixie and Simon were the two least popular couples in the public vote, given how that's the only way you can get the result you did.”

[Nitpick]Theoretically it could have been Pixie and Caroline[/Nitpick]
EyeballEyeball
14-09-2015
It did amuse me how het up people got over a failed pop star being eliminated from a reality TV show.
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