John tells Steve if nominations had stayed the same, he believes (Steve) would have gone.

Steve is alone now, talking to himself

Says he made promises to Vanessa, but can't keep them.

"If I could be the one to get out Vanessa! What a play that would be for Jury. OMG!"

"I'll beat Liz in Part 2 (F3 HoH)"

Steve is practicing his imaginary F4 veto winners speech.....

"I made a promise on my mom that I would keep you (Vanessa) but if it's a choice between breaking that promise and taking home $500k, it's worth it"

Austin- He has absolute faith in you? John- Yeah. Not happening
John He is assuming he has my vote and it's down to Vanessa

I'm so confused. What's John's game?

No one knows LOL

I think that he thinks maybe Vanessa is trying to set him up, so if he votes to evict Austin yet Vanessa keeps him, Liztin will be mad at John. Where as if he knows she will break the tie in Steve's favour, he would be fine with it.

Steve acting up for the cameras again, saying he wants to go home, he's done.

They're (John and Steve) setting a trap.

They're trying to put distance between themselves, so that Vanessa thinks they're not as close as she first thought so that she breaks the tie to keep Steve over Austin.

John's trying to make it look as though he doesn't want to keep Steve, then he's going to do a 'oh, go on then, you've twisted my arm' routine to Vanessa... then they chop her if she doesn't win final four Veto.

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Vaness and John agree to blindside Austin tomorrow. His face will be priceless.

I just fear that might cost John the F3 spot because Steve and Van will win HOH and POV.

Dunno whether Vanessa will actually go through with Austin or whether she's playing John.

Yeah who knows what Vanessas agenda is but what would she gain from setting John up like this? If he wins POV he is never ever taking her to F3. Well, he wouldn´t anyway because she put him on the block this week, lol.

Steve is talking to feeders. He is cutting Vanessa at F4 if he has the chance. He wants to take John to F2. Good boy. If he flips on John i am gonna slap him.

I wonder if John was playing Vanessa when telling her he wants to vote out Steve so she wants to keep them together. If so, good acting job. If one of the boys wins POV Vanessa is soooo gone. Please let it happen.

Still think Scampy is going.

However, Austcringe would be hilarious to see booted.

Austin is better for Vanessa's game. I really hope she boots Steve.

John/Steve won't take her to final three, and Liz might be pissed at a blindside... with only 24 hours to iron things out before the next eviction, it'll be bad for her.

If she boots Steve, all she needs is for Austin or Liz to win HoH and she's in a pretty good spot... the best spot she can get at this point, anyway.
- Austin/Liz likely take her over John
- John will split up Austin/Liz

I can't take this!!!

Steve evicted and Austin or Liz as HoH, please! Then Vanessa is all but guaranteed a place in final three!

If she evicts Austin, she's completely doomed. Please, Vanessa, stick with your gut on this one.

The eviction has probably already taken place, right? Please "accidently" turn the feeds on for a moment and let me see Austin prancing around topless (I never thought I'd be saying that!)

Yeah the eviction has for sure taken place, there should be real spoilers out there soon.

For Vanessa's game evicting Steve is better but even though I like Austin I kinda wanna see Liz blindsided lol

If she evicts Austin and doesn't win the veto she is probably going to be 4th.

If Austin's evicted, she can still make final three if Liz wins Veto. Blindside or not, I'm sure Liz knows she can't go to final three with John and Steve...

I strongly feel that she'll leave in fourth, but to be honest, her odds aren't the worst regardless of the eviction outcome; no more so than any of the others that will be at final four...

I disagree, I think she is probably better off taking Steve over Austin, at this stage of the game you've got to take the risk. For Vanessa it's either danger now at Final 4 / better Final 3 position. Or Easy Final 4 / Win out at Final 3.

Her odds are much better for surviving the final 4 / 3 rounds,
John winning HoH and it's ride or die veto to win, if Steve evicted.
Liz wins HoH / John voted out with Vanessa winning veto.
Steve wins HoH / Liz voted out by John, Steve, John voted out by Liz / Vanessa.
John wins HoH, Steve / Liz more likely to go.

Steve is too much of a coward to vote off Vanessa on the live show. He will most likely win HoH and throw PoV. Vanessa is up against Liz / John.

I do think people are underestimating Liz Queen, she knows her dates and IMO will probably win the veto.

They're too many scenarios lol but I did come to the idea that Austin is better gone.

Spoilers online are varying. Obviously a lot of trolls about.

Austin/Liz and John/Steve. Both have said they want final two together. Whether that's true or not remains to be seen, but both couples are committed to the final three. Vanessa really is alone at this point.

The difference is, John and Steve have discussed booting Vanessa at four.
Austin and Liz have discussed taking her to final three. Especially if John votes for Steve and Vanessa breaks the tie in Austin's favour.

If Austin wins HoH and Veto (or Liz wins Veto), they take Vanessa to final three. Yes, it means she has to win the final three HoH, but it's a much better position than a combination of John/Steve winning HoH/Veto because she will finish in fourth place. A 1/3 shot is better than no shot.

There's also the possibility that Austin/Liz get broken up at four. Austin (or Liz) wins HoH, Vanessa or John win Veto, they take out Liz (or Austin). Or John might win HoH, Vanessa Veto, then they're forced to be split. Or John wins HoH and Veto and keeps Vanessa off the block...

There's so many scenarios like you say, but Vanessa's worst case scenario is final four with John and Steve as she has no chance of being taken if she loses Veto to them, whereas she has a chance with Austin and Liz.

She better just win the damn Veto.

Damn, i am so nervous for tonights show. So many different scenarios that could have happend. I would be very disappointed if John doesn´t make it to F3. Thats really all i care about, doesn´t matter with who.

The only thing we can be sure of is that Steve is HOH if they did evict Austin.

I'm simply glad the F5/4/3 isn't a foregone conclusion.

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Agreed.

I was getting worried at the idea of an Austwins final 3 but at least they voted off the useless goats like Julia / Meg <333

I would hate a Steve/Johnny Mac final 2.