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Old 11-09-2015, 15:49
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While delusional wannabe wrestler Austin Mattelson was Steve’s silly initial target, plans shifted when “Judas” scored Power of Veto and took his loathed ponytail beard off the block.

This latest exit, in a sea of frustrating evictions, is emblematic of a lot of sloppy, short-sighted and narcissistic game play this season.

While the cast has been entertaining and intense, providing fans with addictive live feeds due to over-the-top personalities and daily meltdowns, cowardly strategy has ruled the game.
I guess this sums up the season pretty good. I have never seen a season with that many cowards. And the people who would have done something never won HOH to do it.
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Old 11-09-2015, 17:50
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Wow I just caught up and watched John and Vanessa in HOH room, how awful is he LOL
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Old 11-09-2015, 20:51
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Poor James stuck in jury with 5 pretty girls.
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Old 11-09-2015, 21:16
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Poor James stuck in jury with 5 pretty girls.
One of them even gives him limited time of day, so it works out.
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Old 12-09-2015, 03:37
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I guess this sums up the season pretty good. I have never seen a season with that many cowards. And the people who would have done something never won HOH to do it.
You mean those people who couldn't win an HoH would've "done something" by putting up Austwins/Vanessa? How is that any different to Austwins/Vanessa putting them up? Why is it only cowardly one way but not the other?

They were an alliance. An alliance of seven (F&G/SS).
Two of the seven were taken out when the other side won HoHs - why should the remaining five implode when it's clear they're all on the outs with Summer Camp and under attack?

How is being loyal cowardly play? F&G were loyal to each other from week two and it got them to the final six, and one of the remaining four is almost guaranteed to win!
If they imploded and took each other out with their HoHs, the other side would've been laughing. No way Summer Camp would've ever turned on each other, so why expect F&G to? Austwins taking out Vanessa (or vice versa) would've left the door wide open for Summer Camp to gun after the remaining target. They kept each other safe to keep another target in the game, and it surprisingly worked... despite several comps being designed to give James and John an advantage...
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Old 12-09-2015, 04:12
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I agree with all of that. Freaks and Geeks have been a solid alliance, yes it kinda makes it boring for a TV edit but you can't fault them. It's the ADC fault for hardly winning anything. TV watchers thought it was cowardly of Steve on the first double eviction to get rid of Jackie but it wasn't as feed watchers knew how close he was to Freaks and Geeks.

Also when you have players like John and Becky who don't want to be in alliances and game talk its annoying.

Freaks and Geeks were on the outside in the first couple of weeks so they banded together because the other house guests formed the big alliance and one by one all of them went home
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:03
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Itīs not like they never talked about doing "big moves". They were just afraid to do it as soon as they had the power. I donīt even start on how many stupid decisions they all made during this season. It was always, uuhhh its to risky, uhhhh i donīt want to make enemys, uhhh i donīt want them to come after me next week, uhhh i need REASONS to put them up. It was a cry and whinge fest. Ridiculous.
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:39
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I just woke up expecting to have missed an hour of feeds, but no. CBS is as efficient as ever and the feeds are still down. I see on the interweb that Liz and Vanessa have been "treated" to a trip with Frankie Grande to one of his sister's concerts. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

Wait...
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:51
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I wonder if the limo they're in has had an accident? Multiple fatalities?

Here's hoping.....
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:15
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You mean those people who couldn't win an HoH would've "done something" by putting up Austwins/Vanessa? How is that any different to Austwins/Vanessa putting them up? Why is it only cowardly one way but not the other?

They were an alliance. An alliance of seven (F&G/SS).
Two of the seven were taken out when the other side won HoHs - why should the remaining five implode when it's clear they're all on the outs with Summer Camp and under attack?
Under attack? From whom? They were the majority by this point in the game. "Summer Camp" sold out one of the 2 remaining independents (Becky) for the comfort of Austin's pocket. It has been routine, plain sailing ever since.

How is being loyal cowardly play? F&G were loyal to each other from week two and it got them to the final six, and one of the remaining four is almost guaranteed to win!
If they imploded and took each other out with their HoHs, the other side would've been laughing. No way Summer Camp would've ever turned on each other, so why expect F&G to? Austwins taking out Vanessa (or vice versa) would've left the door wide open for Summer Camp to gun after the remaining target. They kept each other safe to keep another target in the game, and it surprisingly worked... despite several comps being designed to give James and John an advantage...
Please...
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:21
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I agree with all of that. Freaks and Geeks have been a solid alliance, yes it kinda makes it boring for a TV edit but you can't fault them. It's the ADC fault for hardly winning anything. TV watchers thought it was cowardly of Steve on the first double eviction to get rid of Jackie but it wasn't as feed watchers knew how close he was to Freaks and Geeks.

Also when you have players like John and Becky who don't want to be in alliances and game talk its annoying.

Freaks and Geeks were on the outside in the first couple of weeks so they banded together because the other house guests formed the big alliance and one by one all of them went home
Agree with this, except:

Becky tried again and again to get into an alliance. At one point she was actually begging Clay. She made the fundamental mistake of expecting James to be strategic, instead of the dumbass he really is. But at least she tried.
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:24
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Feeds still down

And I see someone on jokers has posted Grodner's phone number....

LMAO
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:38
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Feeds back
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:43
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Vanessa tells Steve to get some sleep for tomorrow.

Sounds like the Veto hasn't been played?
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:43
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Also when you have players like John and Becky who don't want to be in alliances and game talk its annoying
Becky tried again and again to get into an alliance. At one point she was actually begging Clay. She made the fundamental mistake of expecting James to be strategic, instead of the dumbass he really is. But at least she tried.
^^this. I still feel bad for Becky that she had to work with people who were that dumb.

John didnīt want to be in an alliance? Umm what? Shelli/Clay/Steve/John + Becky were already starting to form an alliance but then all 3 got evicted. John did join the F&G alliance because they wanted him to replace Vanessa but then they were to afraid to go against her and backstabbed him. Then Vanessa made a F3 alliance with him Steve and her and he got backstabbed again. Yes his game play sucks but its not his fault that all the people who wanted to work with him (and were loyal to him) got evicted.
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:45
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Austin shovelling a plate of eggs through his fur.

Deeply unattractive.
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:49
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^^this. I still feel bad for Becky that she had to work with people who were that dumb.

John didnīt want to be in an alliance? Umm what? Shelli/Clay/Steve/John + Becky were already starting to form an alliance but then all 3 got evicted. John did join the F&G alliance because they wanted him to replace Vanessa but then they were to afraid to go against her and backstabbed him. Then Vanessa made a F3 alliance with him Steve and her and he got backstabbed again. Yes his game play sucks but its not his fault that all the people who wanted to work with him (and were loyal to him) got evicted.
Yes, this. John was only a vague afterthought to the other HG's, he was to me too. LOL
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:50
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So Steve and John had to wait all day for noms to be made? And then Vanessa comes back drunk for the ceremony? Thatīs nice.

What if she had planned to put up Austin/Liz and would have changed her mind because she was spending the whole day with Liz alone? Or would they have made noms in the morning then?
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:52
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Liztin in the bathroom, not talking.

Awwwww young love....

Hurrrrlllllllll
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:04
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John has offered to throw the Veto to Liztin, in return for their votes to keep him.

John: "I've got a feeling I'm out of the club"
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:07
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What happend there? Steve is in bed with Van and seems like Steve is not talking to John anymore.
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:09
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There's no way John could throw the Veto, with the chance that either Vanessa or Steve wins. John is basically pitching for their votes, against Steve.
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:12
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What happend there? Steve is in bed with Van and seems like Steve is not talking to John anymore.
Steve is in bed with his bear LOL

Liz says they need to tell Vanessa what John just said. These people are still playing for Vanessa.
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:14
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I got up early for this. How sad.

Out.
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:16
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John seems to have finally lost his mind. He should win veto and then campaign for votes. His game play gets crazier every day because he has no one to really talk to who is not BSing him. I hope he doesnīt throw but i canīt blame him for giving up and being mentally exhausted. Being the odd man out for so long canīt be fun.
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