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Aldi 4K TV for £299.99

barbelerbarbeler Posts: 23,827
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It has the usual 3-year guarantee, but the refresh rate is only 60Hz. How important is this in the real world, rather than to the techie-trainspotter types?

www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/sun-13-sep/product-detail/ps/p/40-4k-ultra-hd-tv/
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    Chris FrostChris Frost Posts: 11,022
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    It does tend to make motion less blurry on LED TVs. I'm not sure whether that's the main issue though. A Blaupunkt/Bush/Techwood or other supermarket/no name 40" TV will be around the £220-£250. Most of those will be 50 or 60Hz refresh as well and have just a 12 month warranty. This is the same screen size and with an extra 2 yrs warranty and it's 4K. How many other corners besides higher refresh rate do you think might have been cut to pay for the 4K screen?
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    barbelerbarbeler Posts: 23,827
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    I've heard that the onboard sound isn't up there with the best, but that's no problem if you already have a sound bar. I noticed that it has a LAN connection, but what's the purpose of that if it's not a smart TV? With a 3-year guarantee it doesn't seem too much of a risk at that price. After reading reviews of what Aldi are selling elsewhere I'm guessing it's a Bauhn model, but I don't know anything about those – not that it really matters, as most TVs seem to have the same components these days.

    Edit: after checking the Bauhn website, they don't seem to do a 40" 4K TV.
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    koantemplationkoantemplation Posts: 101,293
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    I went to Aldi the other week to get one of the notebooks they had advertised.

    Got there 5 mins to 8am. was the only person there for the note book, and they only had ONE in the store, which thankfully I got.

    I'm not sure if they'll have many TVs either.
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    anthony davidanthony david Posts: 14,538
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    Remember the old saying, "Buy cheap buy twice". What do you think you will get for that price?
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    barbelerbarbeler Posts: 23,827
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    Remember the old saying, "Buy cheap buy twice". What do you think you will get for that price?
    A 40" 4K TV with a 3-year guarantee for £299.99. The refresh rate is the only thing that concerns me, although I can't imagine that anybody would go to the trouble of making one if its refresh rate made it unwatchable.
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    Deacon1972Deacon1972 Posts: 8,171
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    barbeler wrote: »
    A 40" 4K TV with a 3-year guarantee for £299.99. The refresh rate is the only thing that concerns me, although I can't imagine that anybody would go to the trouble of making one if its refresh rate made it unwatchable.

    What version HDMI has it got 1.4 or 2.0, has it got HDCP 2.2, HEVC?

    If no to any of the above if will be very limited in what 4k it will show, ie, no Netflix, Amazon (if/ever available via dedicated app) or UHD bluray/broadcasts.
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    1andrew11andrew1 Posts: 4,088
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    barbeler wrote: »
    Edit: after checking the Bauhn website, they don't seem to do a 40" 4K TV.
    The sticker on the power consumption label says Bauhn. But isn't Bauhn just Aldi's own brand, so could be made by anyone?
    https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/sun-13-sep/product-detail/ps/p/40-4k-ultra-hd-tv/
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    SpruceSpruce Posts: 1,136
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    1andrew1 wrote: »
    The sticker on the power consumption label says Bauhn. But isn't Bauhn just Aldi's own brand, so could be made by anyone?
    https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/sun-13-sep/product-detail/ps/p/40-4k-ultra-hd-tv/

    Aldi's suggestion on other products you might like; TV wall bracket & beer.:)
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    mac2708mac2708 Posts: 3,349
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    Have you read the review?

    ★★★★★
    ★★★★★ 1 out of 5 stars. Zaxx · 15 hours ago
    Absolute rubbish
    It is absolute rubbish....

    ✘ No, I do not recommend this product.
    31 people found this review helpful.61 people did not find this review helpful.
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    Yes · 31 31 people found this review helpful. Click to agree.No · 61 61 people did not find this review helpful. Click to agree.Report
    Response from Aldi Stores Limited:
    Catrina · CSD · 3 hours ago
    Hi Zaxx. Thank you for your rating and review. We are sorry to hear about your experience with our 40" 4K Ultra HD TV. We have taken on board your comments and logged them for the Buying team.
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    koantemplationkoantemplation Posts: 101,293
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    mac2708 wrote: »
    Have you read the review?

    ★★★★★
    ★★★★★ 1 out of 5 stars. Zaxx · 15 hours ago
    Absolute rubbish
    It is absolute rubbish.....

    Not a very helpful review. They could at least say why they thought it was rubbish.

    I'm sure they are correct but some people might not mind the reasons why they didn't like it.
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    Lidtop2013Lidtop2013 Posts: 4,366
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    I wouldn't bother, just save a few hundred more and buy a better one, and that's my opinion BEFORE I even read the one (and only) review on the website, which as above says "it's absolute rubbish"! Not very promising I'd say.
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    surfiesurfie Posts: 5,754
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    I've looked at some of the other cheaper 4k options and found the cheapest brand name one to be a Panasonic from Currys PC World for £459.

    This has a refresh rate of 200 Hz, but some of the reviews on that mention on other websites mention motion lag on any high speed movement, as well as blurring. Also not all 4k TVs on offer are actually 4k, but UHD http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/feature/a662169/what-is-4k-everything-you-need-to-know-about-ultra-hd-from-what-tv-to-buy-to-available-content.html#~po8QCitkzN3LZY
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4
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    I bought one today on the off chance that the Ethernet port would allow me to watch movies located on my pc but I returned it as this was not possible and I couldn't work out why the port was included as even the manual made no mention of its purpose.
    It is a bauhn tv for what it's worth. No smart features.
    I noticed the sound was a bit tinny even for a fairly slim tv. I also thought that while the picture was pretty crisp on standard hd, there was a kind of washed out pink hue to the picture although that could have been some thing that could be corrected by adjusting setting.
    Don't know what the 4k was Like as I don't have any 4k media.
    The one and only review mentioned a few posts above was actuality made before the tv was available.
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    Nigel GoodwinNigel Goodwin Posts: 58,601
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    mkultr4 wrote: »
    I bought one today on the off chance that the Ethernet port would allow me to watch movies located on my pc but I returned it as this was not possible and I couldn't work out why the port was included as even the manual made no mention of its purpose.

    Might be for software updates?.
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    Lidtop2013Lidtop2013 Posts: 4,366
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    mkultr4 wrote: »
    I bought one today on the off chance that the Ethernet port would allow me to watch movies located on my pc but I returned it as this was not possible and I couldn't work out why the port was included as even the manual made no mention of its purpose.
    It is a bauhn tv for what it's worth. No smart features.
    I noticed the sound was a bit tinny even for a fairly slim tv. I also thought that while the picture was pretty crisp on standard hd, there was a kind of washed out pink hue to the picture although that could have been some thing that could be corrected by adjusting setting.
    Don't know what the 4k was Like as I don't have any 4k media.
    The one and only review mentioned a few posts above was actuality made before the tv was available.

    So it was crap then, no surprises there!!:p

    Don't get me wrong, might be good for a second bedroom TV or something, but not a everyday living room one
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    barbelerbarbeler Posts: 23,827
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    mac2708 wrote: »
    Have you read the review?

    ★★★★★
    ★★★★★ 1 out of 5 stars. Zaxx · 15 hours ago
    Absolute rubbish
    It is absolute rubbish....
    You might have been wise to wait a little longer, rather than relying on a review written before it was even available. :D

    I'll wait until there are a few more before reaching any conclusions. It seems odd that somebody else reviewed in when they hadn't even looked at the menu. In my experience, most TVs are appalling when viewed in their original factory settings. I'm slightly more concerned about the sound; I wouldn't need it produce massive volume, but a nicely balanced tone is important. I don't have a sound bar and it would partly cancel out the low price if it was necessary to buy one.
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    skinjskinj Posts: 3,383
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    Winston_1 wrote: »
    But as has been said before as the 4K broadcast spec has not been finalised it is rather pointless.
    Except it's not pointless at all. 4K will initially be for subscription services first, then maybe (and that is a huge maybe, as Freeview have stated they have no plans to broadcast 4K in the near future) free to view at some point in the future, by which point most of the 4K sets in circulation now, especially the dirt cheep ones like this, are probably going to have been replaced anyway.
    Almost all the 4K in the immediate future will be streamed content from a provider like BT, Netflix, Amazon Prime etc or possibly a Sky 4K/Virgin 4K box, none of which require integrated 4K tuners in the TV.
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    skinjskinj Posts: 3,383
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    mkultr4 wrote: »
    I bought one today on the off chance that the Ethernet port would allow me to watch movies located on my pc but I returned it as this was not possible and I couldn't work out why the port was included as even the manual made no mention of its purpose.
    It is a bauhn tv for what it's worth. No smart features.
    I noticed the sound was a bit tinny even for a fairly slim tv. I also thought that while the picture was pretty crisp on standard hd, there was a kind of washed out pink hue to the picture although that could have been some thing that could be corrected by adjusting setting.
    Don't know what the 4k was Like as I don't have any 4k media.
    The one and only review mentioned a few posts above was actuality made before the tv was available.

    If the set is Freeview HD, an Ethernet port is a requirement. It's to allow over the top content to be streamed by the broadcasters such as iPlayer via the RedButton on BBC.
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    surfiesurfie Posts: 5,754
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    barbeler wrote: »
    You might have been wise to wait a little longer, rather than relying on a review written before it was even available. :D

    I'll wait until there are a few more before reaching any conclusions. It seems odd that somebody else reviewed in when they hadn't even looked at the menu. In my experience, most TVs are appalling when viewed in their original factory settings. I'm slightly more concerned about the sound; I wouldn't need it produce massive volume, but a nicely balanced tone is important. I don't have a sound bar and it would partly cancel out the low price if it was necessary to buy one.

    The best advice is not to rush out now and by a 4k TV unless you TV is about to go wrong. I doubt very much whether the on Aldi have on offer is the full 4k TV anyhow, much in the way you can get HD and Full HD TVs

    It's worth reading this DS article of 4k TVs It says that unless your TV is due for retirement, it's best to wait until the main broadcasters/sky get on board with 4k, along with TV's that have built in DVB-UHDTV tuners.
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    Lidtop2013Lidtop2013 Posts: 4,366
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    So there's "4k ready" and "full 4k" TVs? I thought they were either "4k" meaning full 4k or "UHD" or "SUHD", they all mean the same thing no?
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    barbelerbarbeler Posts: 23,827
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    surfie wrote: »
    I doubt very much whether the on Aldi have on offer is the full 4k TV anyhow, much in the way you can get HD and Full HD TVs
    The Aldi TV is 3840 x 2160 resolution.

    Quote from TechRadar:
    Difference between Ultra HD and 4K

    Technically, "Ultra High Definition" is actually a derivation of the 4K digital cinema standard. However while your local multiplex shows images in native 4096 x 2160 4K resolution, the new Ultra HD consumer format has a slightly lower resolution of 3840 X 2160.

    This is one reason why some brands prefer not to use the 4K label at all, sticking with Ultra HD or UHD instead. However, the numerical shorthand looks likely to stick. As a broad brush label it's so much snappier!
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    anthony davidanthony david Posts: 14,538
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    It would have been better if Tech Radar had done some basic research by looking up current feature films on IMDb. Most films are still released from a 2K digital intermediate with a resolution of 2048X1080 and will not be re post produced in 4K. Most will be shot "shoot and protect for HD TV release" so can be shown in HD by simply trimming the width by about 128 pixels to that format without loss of required picture information or resolution. Some cinema projectors upscale to 4K.

    This site shows the current releases in 4K by Sony Pictures.

    http://www.sony.co.uk/pro/products/digital-cinema-4k-movie-releases
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    jackthomjackthom Posts: 6,644
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    I'm slightly at a loss as to why anyone would want a 40" 4k display, even assuming it was a good quality one.

    Just how close to a bog standard 40" full HD screen would you have to sit in order to find it lacking in resolution? Probably too close for comfort. :)
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    barbelerbarbeler Posts: 23,827
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    jackthom wrote: »
    I'm slightly at a loss as to why anyone would want a 40" 4k display, even assuming it was a good quality one.

    Just how close to a bog standard 40" full HD screen would you have to sit in order to find it lacking in resolution? Probably too close for comfort. :)
    If you view them in any shop display, there is a startling difference between them from about 15 to 20 feet away.
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