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Old 12-09-2015, 00:16
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1. Alya's pregnancy and the fact she feels so guilty about the whole thing, what happened to that storyline?

2. Gail ruling the roost, declining the possibility of David and Kylie having the garage as a bedroom, as well as skulking around like she owns the place, when David does.
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Old 12-09-2015, 00:18
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1. Alya isn't pregnant
2. The whole reason Gail is moving to the garage is because David and Kylie wanted to kick her out
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Old 12-09-2015, 00:23
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1. Alya isn't pregnant
2. The whole reason Gail is moving to the garage is because David and Kylie wanted to kick her out
how do we know that Aliya isnt pregnant?
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Old 12-09-2015, 00:23
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Gail refusing to move out annoyed me, what did she expect? Lily to grow up in her parents' bedroom until she moves out while her granny lives in the box room with any future boyfriends or husbands? They're a family of four, they need all the space they can get.
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Old 12-09-2015, 00:26
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how do we know that Aliya isnt pregnant?
Because she took a test and it was negative. She told Sinead
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Old 12-09-2015, 00:27
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1. Alya isn't pregnant
2. The whole reason Gail is moving to the garage is because David and Kylie wanted to kick her out
Did I miss something tonight? I thought Gail wasnt moving into the garage.
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Old 12-09-2015, 01:10
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I thought she was pregnant, and Sinead covered for Alya, saying it was her test and it proved negative, whereas it was actually positive?
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Old 12-09-2015, 01:18
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I think Alya did tell Sinead it was negative but i believe the storyline is coming up again in the live episode so either she was lying or it was a false result.
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Old 12-09-2015, 01:53
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Alya's not pregnant. It were negative. She was consumed with guilt and was a wreck because she slept with Jason.
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:41
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Can someone remind me how David owns the house please?😊
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:57
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The Gail-staying-in-the-house-but-moving-to-the-garage-conversion thing is jarring with me quite a lot too.

A couple of times during Gail's marriage to Brian, they had to go and live with Ivy while they were 'between houses' or trying to save money. Gail made no secret that she hated the situation so I find it a bit unbelievable that Gail would impose herself on David and Kylie as she has done for the past however many years.

The possibility of Gail morphing into an Ivy-like character is an interesting development for, but apart from perhaps one or two distantly forgotten comments, this isn't at all explicit. Because Gail is now this simpering, jelly-like woman with next to no strong will it's hard to take her seriously as an overbearing matriarch. If there was more evidence of Gail nagging David and Kylie and generally being a bossy cow there would be more potential for drama. Sadly, all we seem to get is Gail making 'comedy' quips whilst simultaneously being their housekeeper, butler, under butler, footman, lady's maid, valet and cook. Have I missed any Downton staff members? I would've said chauffeur but Gail can't drive.

I have mentioned this a lot on other threads so I'm just repeating myself as usual. Apologies.
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:05
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Alya is not pregnant
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:28
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Can someone remind me how David owns the house please?😊
Wasn't it something to do with Gail losing all her money to a scam & David somehow qualifying for a mortgage to buy the house from her?
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:47
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Gail refusing to move out annoyed me, what did she expect? Lily to grow up in her parents' bedroom until she moves out while her granny lives in the box room with any future boyfriends or husbands? They're a family of four, they need all the space they can get.
cos they are hardworking people not benefit scroungers and therefore maximise what space they have and dont expect bigger and bigger council houses as they breed
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:49
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The Gail-staying-in-the-house-but-moving-to-the-garage-conversion thing is jarring with me quite a lot too.

A couple of times during Gail's marriage to Brian, they had to go and live with Ivy while they were 'between houses' or trying to save money. Gail made no secret that she hated the situation so I find it a bit unbelievable that Gail would impose herself on David and Kylie as she has done for the past however many years.

The possibility of Gail morphing into an Ivy-like character is an interesting development for, but apart from perhaps one or two distantly forgotten comments, this isn't at all explicit. Because Gail is now this simpering, jelly-like woman with next to no strong will it's hard to take her seriously as an overbearing matriarch. If there was more evidence of Gail nagging David and Kylie and generally being a bossy cow there would be more potential for drama. Sadly, all we seem to get is Gail making 'comedy' quips whilst simultaneously being their housekeeper, butler, under butler, footman, lady's maid, valet and cook. Have I missed any Downton staff members? I would've said chauffeur but Gail can't drive.

I have mentioned this a lot on other threads so I'm just repeating myself as usual. Apologies.
dont forget nanny
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:56
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Wasn't it something to do with Gail losing all her money to a scam & David somehow qualifying for a mortgage to buy the house from her?
Gail got conned by Lewis into believing that he loved her and took out a loan on the house for £40,000 so they could start a new life together in Tuscany. She was going to sell the house to repay the loan, and David and Kylie would have to move out.

Kylie was blackmailed by Lewis into giving him Gail's bank details and took all the money out of her account and left the country, after leaving a DVD of him telling what he's done. He left £9,000 of the money for Audrey to cover what he'd conned her out of. Gail wanted though it should be hers, but Audrey kept it.

David and Kylie bought the house from her so she could repay the loan and they'd all still have somewhere to live.
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:09
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Lewis's dvd confession was brilliant
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:03
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The Gail-staying-in-the-house-but-moving-to-the-garage-conversion thing is jarring with me quite a lot too.

A couple of times during Gail's marriage to Brian, they had to go and live with Ivy while they were 'between houses' or trying to save money. Gail made no secret that she hated the situation so I find it a bit unbelievable that Gail would impose herself on David and Kylie as she has done for the past however many years.

The possibility of Gail morphing into an Ivy-like character is an interesting development for, but apart from perhaps one or two distantly forgotten comments, this isn't at all explicit. Because Gail is now this simpering, jelly-like woman with next to no strong will it's hard to take her seriously as an overbearing matriarch. If there was more evidence of Gail nagging David and Kylie and generally being a bossy cow there would be more potential for drama. Sadly, all we seem to get is Gail making 'comedy' quips whilst simultaneously being their housekeeper, butler, under butler, footman, lady's maid, valet and cook. Have I missed any Downton staff members? I would've said chauffeur but Gail can't drive.

I have mentioned this a lot on other threads so I'm just repeating myself as usual. Apologies.
This. Kylie and David seem to do bugger all around that house while Gail wipes their backsides. I wonder if she pays rent or acts like the live in skivvy in leueu of rent.
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:47
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Can someone remind me how David owns the house please?😊
He got the £150,000 from the Weatherfield Bank. And he doesn't have to pay it back.

I find that a lot in Corrie. Somehow the pooriest of people acquire money, homes and wealth out of nowhere.

* Regarding Alya, I'm with the OP here. I can't remember this pregnancy story being resolved and if it was then what a non story.
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Old 12-09-2015, 14:57
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He got the £150,000 from the Weatherfield Bank. And he doesn't have to pay it back.

I find that a lot in Corrie. Somehow the pooriest of people acquire money, homes and wealth out of nowhere.

* Regarding Alya, I'm with the OP here. I can't remember this pregnancy story being resolved and if it was then what a non story.
I don't agree that it was a non story. The whole point was to highlight that Alya's grief was making her do things which she wouldn't ordinarily do and was questioning her faith. She drank alcohol, slept with a man and the pregnancy scare was clearly the wake up call that she needed. Thankfully they opted against the cliché of her actually being pregnant. Plus I'm sure at some point Gary and the Nazirs will find out that she slept with Jason.

She told Sinaed the test was negative. At the time I must admit that I wondered if she might be lying, but obviously not.
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Old 12-09-2015, 15:34
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Surely Gail must still have an interest in the house or money from David and Gail buying it from her with a mortgate.

Unless she sold it to them for forty grand? I can't imagine houses in Weatherfield being that cheap.

Gail ought to have enough money to buy a flat or one of the smaller houses over the road.
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Old 12-09-2015, 16:44
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The Gail-staying-in-the-house-but-moving-to-the-garage-conversion thing is jarring with me quite a lot too.

A couple of times during Gail's marriage to Brian, they had to go and live with Ivy while they were 'between houses' or trying to save money. Gail made no secret that she hated the situation so I find it a bit unbelievable that Gail would impose herself on David and Kylie as she has done for the past however many years.

The possibility of Gail morphing into an Ivy-like character is an interesting development for, but apart from perhaps one or two distantly forgotten comments, this isn't at all explicit. Because Gail is now this simpering, jelly-like woman with next to no strong will it's hard to take her seriously as an overbearing matriarch. If there was more evidence of Gail nagging David and Kylie and generally being a bossy cow there would be more potential for drama. Sadly, all we seem to get is Gail making 'comedy' quips whilst simultaneously being their housekeeper, butler, under butler, footman, lady's maid, valet and cook. Have I missed any Downton staff members? I would've said chauffeur but Gail can't drive.

I have mentioned this a lot on other threads so I'm just repeating myself as usual. Apologies.
I actually find it quite realistic as people do very often turn into their parents without recognising it.

Whilst she did indeed hate living with Ivy and Ivy's interfering, i doubt that she sees herself in those terms. Her being around, she will see as a help, as a cook, baby sitter etc and not a nuisance. She'd probably cry "but i help them, they need me, it's not the same" if somebody mentioned it to her. I think we all like to believe that we have better relationships with our children, that they want us around because we've done a better job parenting than the previous generation but it is rarely true.

Also, i think they laide the groundwork of Gail becoming Ivy back when she was horrified at 'her' Nicky marrying trailer trash like Gail who would answer. Back and wasn't 'good enough'.

Ivy wouldn't recognise this current incarnation of Gail though - I'd agree with that.
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Old 12-09-2015, 16:46
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Surely Gail must still have an interest in the house or money from David and Gail buying it from her with a mortgate.

Unless she sold it to them for forty grand? I can't imagine houses in Weatherfield being that cheap.

Gail ought to have enough money to buy a flat or one of the smaller houses over the road.
I seem to recall that it was sold to them for an incredibly small amount like 40k so she only got enough to clear the loan she took out for Lewis. I remember it because i found it very hard to believe it would be worth that little (especially as it is on the 'nice' side of the street with a garage, Drive, garden) and she kept saying she couldn't afford to move out as her only money was her income from cleaning the Bistro.
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Old 12-09-2015, 16:49
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He got the £150,000 from the Weatherfield Bank. And he doesn't have to pay it back.

I find that a lot in Corrie. Somehow the pooriest of people acquire money, homes and wealth out of nowhere.

* Regarding Alya, I'm with the OP here. I can't remember this pregnancy story being resolved and if it was then what a non story.
Didn't Audrey use the money lewis gave back to her to give them the deposit? She might also have stood as guarantor. David and Kylie were both working at the time, in a business they are unlikely to be sacked from (his Grans) so i can believe they'd be approved for a mortgage.
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Old 12-09-2015, 17:04
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The pregnancy scare was to pull her out of the self destructive mode she was in after her dad died. She's a religious girl so getting drunk and losing her virginity was massive for her. She said the test was negative but maybe it wasn't and we'll have the predictable soap thing of doing it once and falling pregnant.

I don't remember what David paid but it must be at least £150k. That's about what? £800 a £1000 a month in a mortgage? And he can pay that working at a hairdressers while Kylie files some nails? Gail pays rent I think but she also cooks, cleans, shops, babysits and wipes David's arse. Surely Gail has some money left from the sale unless she was dim enough to sell it for pennies.
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