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HO - Celine and Cameron are great together
lollipop1995
12-09-2015
This is the one pairing that I really think HO have got right. Anyone else a fan? Absolutely love Celine and Cameron as a couple, they have fantastic chemistry. I really hope Cameron isn't leaving the show permanently. He's still in the credits so maybe HO will write him back in somehow. If Cameron is released, I hope he finds out what Pete has been doing to Celine and helps her through it.
kitkat1971
12-09-2015
I really liked them as well. In fact, I seem to be in the minority but i really liked Cameron full stop - did right from the start.

I hope he hasn't left properly either and I do think we might see him in Prison a couple of times but hard to see how he can stay in as he has made a full confession. Dangerous Driving causing Death and leaving the scene of an accident (which are the minimum charges he could get i think, it could well be Manslaughter) should get him a couple of years at least.
lulu g
12-09-2015
Like him, don't like her, and I don't like them together. I do like it when he calls her 'hen', though.
seventhwave
12-09-2015
Cameron reportedly will be back and we'll see "someone unexpected" visit him in prison soon. But the last couple of episodes he was in made it look like they were trying to set him up with Leela again ... because of course, it doesn't matter that he kidnapped her, acted like he owns her and Peri, and lied and manipulated her. He's the love of her life! They had a child at 14 so that means they're destined for each other ... and now Peri is so lucky to have found the same love with Tom!!!

I did like Cameron a lot more with Celine, it made his character much more sympathetic and was nice to see him move on ...
kitkat1971
12-09-2015
I actually thought the last couple of episodes were showing that Leela wasn't over him, still loved him despite what he had done but he'd realised that the relationship wasn't healthy and he'd actually been in love with the memory of her, the idea of her and the life they should have had with their baby. Years in prison had turned it into an unhealthy obsession and meeting and falling for Celine had made him accept that.

Re feeling sympathy for him - that is harder.

When he was first introduced and we learnt the background, i did feel sorry for him. Whilst not excusing the severity and wrongness of being a get away driver, there is a big difference between that and being the person that commits the robbery with a gun in their hand. To be fitted up for the greater crime by a Police Officer just to keep a young man from their daughter is pretty horrific, to have to serve 14 years (as long as you'd been alive at the time of imprisonment) for a crime you didn't commit doesn't bear thinking about. Then add in his Mum dying during that time, it is no wonder he was very bitter towards Sam and desperate to reclaim the life he felt had been stolen from him. Also that getting Leela and the baby back had grown into an obsession - what else did he have to think about for all that time?

But then, they almost immediately had him be the hit and run driver that killed Sam and Danny which was bad enough but made worse by him trying to frame Ziggy. Hard to sympathize with that, although I do understand his desperation to keep Peri in the country and fear of going back to Prison.

People say he stalked Leela. Well, kind of but she did appear to reciprocate his feelings.

I do think he was basically a moral person, more so than many others in the show who did wrong things for reasons i could understand and sympathize with, even if i didn't approve. Very different to people like Freddie or Mercedes.

I think it is dreadfully sad that he is going to most likely spend another 15 years in Prison and by the time he gets out he will be well into middle age and almost completely institutionalized - even though he does need to serve time for the Lomaxes death.

I also thought he was well acted and yes i admit it, i think Cameron Moore is very attractive.

So, I'm really sorry he's most likely going.
seventhwave
12-09-2015
This is Hollyoaks, I doubt he'll spend that long in prison. Since we've had no word of Cameron Moore leaving, that means they'll find a way for Cameron to get out (just like Theresa should still be doing time for Calvin's murder ...)
kitkat1971
12-09-2015
I thought I read here that Moore had tweeted he was leaving a few weeks ago, but it quickly got removed from his account?

I didn't see it myself so that is pure hearsay.

Unless something happens to make him change his statement, i don't see how he can get off. They've got the video posted to everybody (although that might be deemed inadmissable), they've got Leela's testimony (unless she lies) and they've got Cameron's own confession. Unlike somebody like Theresa or Freddie, he accepts that he has done wrong and needs punishing and is willing to do time to try and atone, especially to Peri who i honestly believe he loves.

The only way i can see him changing his statement would be if Peri changed her mind and said she wanted and needed him back in her life. Or, just possibly, if he found out about Pete abusing the McQueen girls (particularly Celine) and wanted out to deal with him.
qwertye
12-09-2015
Also there's the fact that Cameron must have been at least 17 when he got 13 year old Leela pregnant- love how everyone looks past that.
lulu g
12-09-2015
I think they are meant to be the same age. He certainly doesn't look older than her.
kitkat1971
12-09-2015
Originally Posted by qwertye:
“Also there's the fact that Cameron must have been at least 17 when he got 13 year old Leela pregnant- love how everyone looks past that.”

No, that's not true. It was established that they were the same age, he clearly said to Sam that she sent a 14 year old boy to prison. They also talked about bunking off school together.

I think this 17 years old thing comes from him having been the get away driver and needing to be 17 to have a license but clearly he was driving underage and without one. After all, if he was prepared to be involved in an armed robbery, would driving illegally really bother him?

Plenty of people know how to drive before they are legally old enough.
lollipop1995
12-09-2015
I remember it being mentioned that Cameron and Leela are the same age. I really hope if Cameron gets released (and couldn't he only be charged for driving off as it wasn't intentional and there were no witnesses around?) they don't pair him with Leela again. He told her in prison he loved Celine.

I think Cameron could play a huge part in this Pete storyline, we've already seen he's very protective of Celine and genuinely loves her so his reaction to what Pete has been doing for so many years will be very interesting.

I really hope HO don't destroy them. Celije brings out the soft side to Cameron and I began to like him when they got paired together (back when she was pretending to be Marian).

My heart broke when Celine was telling Cameron how he made her feel special and about how she was the "dumpy girl at school who got asked out for a bet". So yes, producers at HO - if you're reading this, Cameron and Celine are the one couple you have got REALLY right (imo) so PLEASE don't ruin it!
Rain
13-09-2015
They worked very well together which was unexpected because I never liked Cameron and found the whole Leela thing unbelievable - too much has happened there anyway. But with Celine I really began to see the character differently and did not mind him being around, the last week of their relationship was a on-screen high IMO and do think they fit together well. I just think there is no way back for him now the truth is out.
Multimedia81
13-09-2015
I liked Cameron and Celine together. For Celine this was the first time she felt truly loved. She immediately believed that killing Sam and Danny was an accident and assured him she still loved him.

Having nobody in prison meant that Cameron had nobody to help him forget about Leela. His sense of belonging with her intensified when he discovered they had their daughter Peri. However, by the time he was in his new relaionship with Celine, he even accepted Leela with Ziggy to the point that he and Ziggy finally started getting on!
kitkat1971
13-09-2015
Originally Posted by Multimedia81:
“I liked Cameron and Celine together. For Celine this was the first time she felt truly loved. She immediately believed that killing Sam and Danny was an accident and assured him she still loved him.

Having nobody in prison meant that Cameron had nobody to help him forget about Leela. His sense of belonging with her intensified when he discovered they had their daughter Peri. However, by the time he was in his new relaionship with Celine, he even accepted Leela with Ziggy to the point that he and Ziggy finally started getting on!”

Yes, exactly this.

Given the young age he went into Prison, and the length of time he was there in very formative years, i'm actually surprised he wasn't more screwed up and disturbed.

As you say, I don't think Cameron had any contact with the outside world except maybe Lockie, and then his Mum died. So it is no wonder his relationship with Leela and wondering about her and their baby, dreaming of what could/should have been became an all consuming obsession, along with hatred for the person that had ruined it.
Multimedia81
13-09-2015
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Yes, exactly this.

Given the young age he went into Prison, and the length of time he was there in very formative years, i'm actually surprised he wasn't more screwed up and disturbed.

As you say, I don't think Cameron had any contact with the outside world except maybe Lockie, and then his Mum died. So it is no wonder his relationship with Leela and wondering about her and their baby, dreaming of what could/should have been became an all consuming obsession, along with hatred for the person that had ruined it.”

Thank you for identifying with my point. Sure, Cameron will have had support from Lockie and briefly his mum, but still no normal social contact with the public at large, hence his inability to move on from Leela.
fairyfruitcake
13-09-2015
I like Cameron but I find Celine vacuous and irritating
lulu g
13-09-2015
Originally Posted by fairyfruitcake:
“I like Cameron but I find Celine vacuous and irritating”

That's exactly how I feel.
Bona drag
14-09-2015
Originally Posted by fairyfruitcake:
“I like Cameron but I find Celine vacuous and irritating”

Originally Posted by lulu g:
“That's exactly how I feel.”

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way about Celine, I don't think she is very well acted either. I find cameron a bit dull. I haven't watched Hollyoaks for about 2 months, so I can't comment on the coupling.
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