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Old 13-09-2015, 20:14
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Hi all and thx so much to Chris Frost over yesterdays ques!
This is related to last post. Ive got Wii connected into AV5 of Yamaha 377 and thx to Chris is now working. My lad likes the PS2 games and Ive got this connected into AV4 of Yamaha. The reason for AV4 and 5 is those are the only inputs that accept red white and yellow analogue plugs.

When I watch normal TV on surround sound, the TV makes Yamaha flick to AV4 and says TV on the display. Why this is - I do not know, but it works so why worry lol. However, when trying PS2 which is plugged into the AV4 I only get video displayed and not audio. This does not happen on Wii which is into AV5 cos I select AV5 and all works. The PS2 prob has something to do with selecting AV4 and the TV wanting the AV4 option.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thx Pete
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Old 13-09-2015, 22:14
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Yesterday the answer to your question was something a bit obscure. Today's question though is something altogether more basic. In fact it's part of the steps of the set up process for your receiver. So while me or anyone ales here could just give you an answer, it won't help you to learn anything.

I'll help you find the answer for yourself by posting a link to the manual here and I'll tell you what page to start reading at (page 21) and that you are looking for the section about setting up the inputs on the amp. I hope others here will understand and respect how I'm trying to help you help yourself.

The only reason people here in the forum know this kind of stuff is that we own the same kind of gear, we read the manuals and went through the same learning curve and often worked it out for ourselves. There's no magic involved. We just RTFM This sort of thing isn't any more difficult than entering some contact details in your mobile phone or learning how to open the bonnet of a new car. We are here to help you if you get really stuck, but I have a feeling you'll be okay.
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Old 14-09-2015, 10:04
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Yes Chris - thx for all the info - I really appreciate it. Yes I did know how to change the audio input and had already tried that to no avail.

Speaking to the tech team at the shop I got it from, they say the TV defaults to AV4 so what I'm asking cannot be done apparently. I'm not sure this is correct, as if it was, there would be no point having the AV input at the back. They had no answer to this.

If I'm still missing something and am being very dim, I apologise for wasting anyone's time!!!!
Thx anyhow, Pete
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Old 14-09-2015, 13:52
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Yes Chris - thx for all the info - I really appreciate it. Yes I did know how to change the audio input and had already tried that to no avail.

Speaking to the tech team at the shop I got it from, they say the TV defaults to AV4 so what I'm asking cannot be done apparently. I'm not sure this is correct, as if it was, there would be no point having the AV input at the back. They had no answer to this.

If I'm still missing something and am being very dim, I apologise for wasting anyone's time!!!!
Thx anyhow, Pete
Just trying to get my head round what is going on here. If you have set up AV4 on the Yamaha correctly then you should get sound through the Yamaha speakers in the same way as you do for AV5.

I'm not sure what this reference to AV4 on the TV is all about, unless that happens to be where the video out of the Yamaha is connected? Otherwise you should have the TV set to the same input source as when using AV5 on the Yamaha.

As a test you could swap the connections to AV4 and 5 around on the back of the Yamaha. This will give you some idea as to where the fault is.

You know the Wii works on AV5 so that tells you that AV5 audio and video are working on the Yamaha. So in theory if the PS2 is also working you should get audio and video from that on AV5. if you do not then the PS2 or the cable/connection you are using is at fault.

Similarly the Wii should work on AV4 exactly like it does on AV5 if the Yamaha is set-up correctly. If it does then AV4 is OK but if it does not then AV4 is not set up correctly.

But try this simple swap around test to see what happens.

Oh I notice Chris Frost's link is to the US Yamaha website. Just in case there is any difference this is the UK manual

http://download.yamaha.com/api/asset...asset_id=61629
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Old 14-09-2015, 14:23
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Thx chrisjr for asking!
So - originally AV4=PS2 and AV5=Wii. They are on these inputs as these are only ones that have red, white, yellow inputs.
In this config, Wii is OK and PS2 only video. If I swap them round then the opposite happens - PS2 on AV5 OK and Wii on AV4 - only video, no audio.
Thx for the manual btw.

In ref to TV and AV4, when I use just the TV and Yamaha, the TV flicks the Yamaha to AV4. Its says this onfront display and the symbol TV in top left corner. I think there's a ref to this in manual on p57 (top right corner).

When you goto audio input on AV4 and select AV4, when you come out of menu - it goes back to TV.
Puzzled at mo - but thx for help! Pete
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Old 14-09-2015, 14:47
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Thx chrisjr for asking!
So - originally AV4=PS2 and AV5=Wii. They are on these inputs as these are only ones that have red, white, yellow inputs.
In this config, Wii is OK and PS2 only video. If I swap them round then the opposite happens - PS2 on AV5 OK and Wii on AV4 - only video, no audio.
Thx for the manual btw.

In ref to TV and AV4, when I use just the TV and Yamaha, the TV flicks the Yamaha to AV4. Its says this onfront display and the symbol TV in top left corner. I think there's a ref to this in manual on p57 (top right corner).

When you goto audio input on AV4 and select AV4, when you come out of menu - it goes back to TV.
Puzzled at mo - but thx for help! Pete
If both the Wii and PS2 are OK on AV5 then that suggests both source devices are OK and that AV5 is configured correctly.

If both devices are video only on AV4 then either AV4 audios are faulty or there is an error with the configuration of AV4.

I suggest a quick look at page 22 of the manual, the sections numbered 1 to 6 in blue on the left of the page.
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Old 14-09-2015, 15:08
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Thanks for all that chrisjr .
More info: on p57 of manual at top right hand corner there's a blue exclamation mark and it says: When using ARC to input TV audio to the unit, you cannot use the input jacks selected here for connecting an external device because the input will be used for TV audio input.

This is referring to AV4. Does this mean the shop is correct then and it can't be done? Thx again all! Pete
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Old 14-09-2015, 15:35
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Thanks for all that chrisjr .
More info: on p57 of manual at top right hand corner there's a blue exclamation mark and it says: When using ARC to input TV audio to the unit, you cannot use the input jacks selected here for connecting an external device because the input will be used for TV audio input.

This is referring to AV4. Does this mean the shop is correct then and it can't be done? Thx again all! Pete
I'm not entirely sure why setting ARC as the TV sound input source disables the AV input that is set as TV Audio Input as it is an entirely separate connection.

Anyway what it means is that AV4 is the default input set in the factory as the TV Audio Input. So if you haven't changed it then that is the one that gets disabled when using ARC. So that would explain why the AV4 audio phonos don't work. Solution is to change the TV Audio Input to something other than AV 4 or 5.

Seems a pretty bizarre design by Yamaha as there is no logical reason that I can see why ARC could not simply be another option on the TV Audio Input selection list so you can use all the available AV inputs for other things.
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Old 14-09-2015, 15:55
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Thx again chrisjr. Sorry to be a pain but you say the solution is to change the TV audio input to a different AV input. Do you know how I do that? Thx Pete
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Old 14-09-2015, 16:22
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Thx again chrisjr. Sorry to be a pain but you say the solution is to change the TV audio input to a different AV input. Do you know how I do that? Thx Pete
Scroll back up to page 51 where it starts talking about the Configuration and the various Setup menu options, should become clear from there
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Old 14-09-2015, 19:41
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Thx again chrisjr. It was easy to change the TV audio input. Thx for all your help!
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