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CS: Have Corrie forgetten Carla owns half of the rovers?
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Tom-Bennett.
13-09-2015
Or am I mistaken? It just hasn't been mentioned since she bought in, and considering she has finicinal issues ATM you would of thought she'd have to sell up to savior the factory. Her and Tony have the shares don't they? Sorry if there already been threads on this
Flowes
13-09-2015
The sale didn't go through. Liz didn't sell as she found out about Tony's affair
Mattehhhftw
13-09-2015
She doesn't own half of the rovers
Anne_Cameron
13-09-2015
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“The sale didn't go through. Liz didn't sell as she found out about Tony's affair”

I thought Carla told Michelle that her solicitor had sorted all the paperwork and it was a done deal. Michelle was effusive in her thanks for what Carla had done.
CollieWobbles
13-09-2015
I distinctly remember them celebrating and Carla saying something along the line of being able to drink more now she was adding to her own profits. It was in the episode where Todd came into the shop and told Tracy he'd just seen Carla, Michelle and Liz celebrating in the pub.
Ex Pat
13-09-2015
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“I distinctly remember them celebrating and Carla saying something along the line of being able to drink more now she was adding to her own profits. It was in the episode where Todd came into the shop and told Tracy he'd just seen Carla, Michelle and Liz celebrating in the pub.”

But was the celebration before the signing?
CollieWobbles
13-09-2015
Originally Posted by Ex Pat:
“But was the celebration before the signing?”

It was after the scene where Carla and Michelle turned up to say Liz could sell to Carla instead of Tony's fake company. Tracy hit the roof and Tony was trying to placate her saying there was nothing he could do to stop it.
Flowes
13-09-2015
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“I distinctly remember them celebrating and Carla saying something along the line of being able to drink more now she was adding to her own profits. It was in the episode where Todd came into the shop and told Tracy he'd just seen Carla, Michelle and Liz celebrating in the pub.”

That celebration was because Carla stepped in with an offer so Liz didn't have to sell to Travis Ltd. that's what Todd saw and told Tracey, tracey spilled the beans to Liz. Liz was only going to sell her half to go to Spain with Tony and we know how that turned out.
Flowes
13-09-2015
Originally Posted by Anne_Cameron:
“I thought Carla told Michelle that her solicitor had sorted all the paperwork and it was a done deal. Michelle was effusive in her thanks for what Carla had done.”

It was a done deal in that she had managed to raise the money etc but it never happened because there was no need as Liz no longer needed to sell.

A later episode, when Tony had disappeared, Liz says something about protecting her assets from Tony so needing to find him. If the sale had gone through it would be Carla sorting that out and Liz would have a nice little nest egg from the sale but that's not the case.
ewoodie
13-09-2015
Carla did buy the Rovers. It was the reason for the fire.

Carla bought the Rovers. Tracy was furious with Carla, so she went to her flat and that resulted in the fire.

Quote:
“Tracy's wrath spirals out of control when she discovers Carla has bought Liz McDonald's share of the pub.”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...rder-mind.html
CollieWobbles
14-09-2015
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“That celebration was because Carla stepped in with an offer so Liz didn't have to sell to Travis Ltd. that's what Todd saw and told Tracey, tracey spilled the beans to Liz. Liz was only going to sell her half to go to Spain with Tony and we know how that turned out.”

Everything I've found online says that Carla did buy the pub. She was drinking champagne saying how the profits would be going back into her pocket, and told Steve and Michelle to help themselves to a bottle. If the offer hadn't actually gone through, why would Tony say he couldn't do anything as if it was final, instead of being able to try and work on getting Liz to change her mind, especially with how Tracy reacted? He was afraid she'd blab about their affair so he'd certainly have had a damn good try to placate her if he could have. I think Carla did buy the Rovers but as soon as the storyline wasn't needed it was all forgot about!
Flowes
14-09-2015
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“Everything I've found online says that Carla did buy the pub. She was drinking champagne saying how the profits would be going back into her pocket, and told Steve and Michelle to help themselves to a bottle. If the offer hadn't actually gone through, why would Tony say he couldn't do anything as if it was final, instead of being able to try and work on getting Liz to change her mind, especially with how Tracy reacted? He was afraid she'd blab about their affair so he'd certainly have had a damn good try to placate her if he could have. I think Carla did buy the Rovers but as soon as the storyline wasn't needed it was all forgot about!”

From what I remember that was because she'd got the go ahead from the bank. In a later episode Liz talked about finding Tony to get him to agree to officially have nothing to do with the Rovers. Surely that would be up to Carla if Carla owned 50%? With all her money troubles surely she would have sold back to Liz if the sale had gone through, as Liz would have no need if the money to go to Spain. I have no recollection of the sale going through.
Flowes
14-09-2015
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Carla did buy the Rovers. It was the reason for the fire.

Carla bought the Rovers. Tracy was furious with Carla, so she went to her flat and that resulted in the fire.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...rder-mind.html”

Daily Mail often get it wrong. They've got an article on CBB today which is completely wrong.
Flowes
14-09-2015
According to this, Liz and Tony still own the Rovers. It mentions Tony offering to sell back to Liz Steve's half, which I vaguely recall. It also states that Liz found out about the affair before Carla signed on the dotted line.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rovers_Return_Inn
ericos
14-09-2015
It didnt go through as said several times above. Celebrations were just for the fact she was going to. Tracey went postal because Todd told her Csrla had offered but the deal eventually wasnt needed because the whole story came out before papers were signed.
They should have had her buy Tony's half though after that to get him out of the picture
Mel94
14-09-2015
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“Everything I've found online says that Carla did buy the pub. She was drinking champagne saying how the profits would be going back into her pocket, and told Steve and Michelle to help themselves to a bottle. If the offer hadn't actually gone through, why would Tony say he couldn't do anything as if it was final, instead of being able to try and work on getting Liz to change her mind, especially with how Tracy reacted? He was afraid she'd blab about their affair so he'd certainly have had a damn good try to placate her if he could have. I think Carla did buy the Rovers but as soon as the storyline wasn't needed it was all forgot about!”

BIB: Because unless something happened to stop Carla going through with her offer, there's no logical reason why Liz would want to sell to some strange internet company rather than someone she knows and trusts, someone who wouldn't kick Steve and MissHell out. Tony knew there was no way he could persuade Liz out of it and that Carla could afford it and she'd be willing as MissHell's best mate. There was nothing he could do. They were celebrating and acting like Carla already owned Liz's half because as far as they were concerned, it was a done deal.
k9fan
14-09-2015
So, was it because tracy the cold-blooded murderer thought that Carla owned part of the pub, that she stole keys to Carla's flat with the seeming intention of bashing in Carla's head?
Gusto Brunt
14-09-2015
Damn, seems like there should be an A Level Corrie.
Janet43
14-09-2015
Originally Posted by k9fan:
“So, was it because tracy the cold-blooded murderer thought that Carla owned part of the pub, that she stole keys to Carla's flat with the seeming intention of bashing in Carla's head?”

Carla offering to buy Liz's half and stopping the deal going through that would make her landlady of the Rovers was enough to make her hate Carla. Add to that that she blames Carla for shopping Rob to the police for murdering Tina and stopping her wedding to Rob and she'd be ready to actually kill Carla.

Even if Carla had signed the contact to buy the pub, it would have taken a while for it to actually go through because of all the legal stuff. It was just before Steve and Michelle's wedding and presumably they cancelled the contract soon after the fire (before Carla went totally into depression) when Liz found out what was going on from Todd during the wedding.
Jazbaa1
14-09-2015
You'd think someone would have at least mentioned it! After all, it is what drove Tracy to let herself into Carla's flat that night with the intention of killing her.

The writers didn't need to make a big deal about it but they should have made it crystal clear from the start that nothing had been signed and that there had been a change of plan. That's all.
ewoodie
14-09-2015
Originally Posted by Anne_Cameron:
“I thought Carla told Michelle that her solicitor had sorted all the paperwork and it was a done deal. Michelle was effusive in her thanks for what Carla had done.”

Originally Posted by Jazbaa1:
“You'd think someone would have at least mentioned it! After all, it is what drove Tracy to let herself into Carla's flat that night with the intention of killing her.

The writers didn't need to make a big deal about it but they should have made it crystal clear from the start that nothing had been signed and that there had been a change of plan. That's all.”


Quote:
“22nd May - Carla buys Liz McDonald's share of the Rovers, unwittingly cutting the ground from under Tracy Barlow's feet and putting an end to her and Tony's scheme to con Liz out of the Rovers. She threatens revenge.”

http://coronationstreet.wikia.com/wiki/2015

Quote:
“Coronation Street: Carla buys into the Rovers - and leaves Tony stunned!”


http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-...the-full-scene

The whole thing was played as if Carla had bought the Rovers. In the prog, it was never said she was buying the Rovers. She had bought the Rovers.

Then weeks after Liz dropped her bombshell when she talked about protecting her interests. There has never been a conversation to say that the that the deal didn't go through.

After Liz's comment, Corrie may well say Carla didn't buy the Rovers and Liz still owns her share but that was never made clear in the prog. All the conversations talked about the purchase as though it had been done and dusted.

All the fuss that Carla had bought the Rovers was rubbish then? Carla was
buying the Rovers. Nothing signed and sealed. The whole thing was an ambiguous plot device so that Tracy could pop round to Carla's to start the fire.

This is just like when David adopted Max. Except he didn't.
Adrian_Ward1
14-09-2015
Very silly the plot has been forgotten
ewoodie
14-09-2015
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“According to this, Liz and Tony still own the Rovers. It mentions Tony offering to sell back to Liz Steve's half, which I vaguely recall. It also states that Liz found out about the affair before Carla signed on the dotted line.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rovers_Return_Inn”

Wiki can be edited by anyone!

But this issue isn't a viewer problem. It was never explained that Carla might not have bought the Rovers and Liz chucking in a random comment about protecting her interests months later isn't good enough. Viewers don't expect every nuance of a plot to be played out in Corrie's usual panto/farcical manner but just a mention that the sale was no longer going through might have been nice!
danlrwilliams
14-09-2015
Looking back on it, Carla DID buy the Rovers, and she mentioned to Michelle that she has no actual interest in running it, therefore leaving Liz, Steve and Michelle to continue as normal.

If I'm also right, ever since the episodes aired, Carla hasn't been seen handing money over when she's purchased drinks there, because she's essentially paying herself anyway with the shares that she purchased.
CollieWobbles
14-09-2015
Originally Posted by Mel94:
“BIB: Because unless something happened to stop Carla going through with her offer, there's no logical reason why Liz would want to sell to some strange internet company rather than someone she knows and trusts, someone who wouldn't kick Steve and MissHell out. Tony knew there was no way he could persuade Liz out of it and that Carla could afford it and she'd be willing as MissHell's best mate. There was nothing he could do. They were celebrating and acting like Carla already owned Liz's half because as far as they were concerned, it was a done deal.”

Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't celebrate a 'done deal' until it actually was a done deal. Could Carla have sold her share back to Liz off screen? If she was willing to fork out to buy it for MissHell, then she'd surely have no quibble in handing it back to Liz. Either way, it's rather shoddy storytelling, the show and every article about it comes across as and states Carla did actually buy the pub rather than was just going to buy it!
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