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Anyone else cannot abide Natasha?
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Vesna
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“I'd say there are about four posters who 'support' her. Thankfully, there are quite a few who feel that they're not obliged to 'support' or 'hate' anyone in order to be allowed to post in a DISCUSSION.”

Here here! For some of us it's just a show.
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“The full extent of my exchange with that particular poster this series has been:

Me: Comments on housemates and/or house
That poster: Delusion, lies, crap, lies, made-up, lies

As you know, Vesna. I don't hold much truck with people who persist in discussing posters and not the show. I also don't take kindly to being called a liar.

Funnily enough, I never remember coming across that poster before, though they've been a member since '08. More or less inactive until this series.”

I've seen it. Fixated on posters and not the posts. Sad. We don't always see things the same way and that's fine, we are after all 2 different people.
Ketamine
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“ in response to Natasha coming out to gloat yes she did say those empty words. Has Farrah thrown anything or spit on anyone? That was Janice who spit on Austin or so he says. .”

This is false. She said it before Natasha came out and said "no hard feelings".

Why someone would want to defend someone saying these things is rather interesting though.
Ketamine
15-09-2015
I don't really care enough to "support" any housemate but when people are dishonest and make up their own events, it does kinda annoy me.
rolergirl
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Yet I get the impression from this thread that many dislike Natasha and support Farrah.”

i like Natasha and Farrah, I wouldnt mind either winning.
Vesna
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Ketamine:
“This is false. She said it before Natasha came out and said "no hard feelings".

Why someone would want to defend someone saying these things is rather interesting though.”

The link to the episode has been posted. You can re watch it. Farrah said that in response to Natasha. No one has defended it, they have only pointed out the sequence of events.

I also remember Daniel and Scoop not seeing it the way Farrah did which I found interesting. But I did agree with Farrah's view of Natasha's motives and not the men's view. Probably because I saw the way Natasha was acting towards Farrah and heard what she said, in the manner she said it and they didn't.

It's fine with me if you like the way Natasha has acted, I don't like it but it's no worries. I don't like the way Farrah responds but I can see the provocation.
Vesna
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Ketamine:
“This is false. She said it before Natasha came out and said "no hard feelings".

Why someone would want to defend someone saying these things is rather interesting though.”

No it's true. Please re watch the episode and take note of Natasha's expressions and tone. It was totally whack.

I can only assume people who defend Natasha's meanness think that it's perfectly fine to be like that.
Ketamine
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“No it's true. Please re watch the episode and take note of Natasha's expressions and tone. It was totally whack.

I can only assume people who defend Natasha's meanness think that it's perfectly fine to be like that.”

If you're saying the spitting and bottle comments were after the "no hard feelings" comment then you're wrong i just watched it.

People should get the benefit of the doubt you can't condemn someone based on tone of voice for god sake.
Vesna
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Ketamine:
“If you're saying the spitting and bottle comments were after the "no hard feelings" comment then you're wrong i just watched it.

People should get the benefit of the doubt you can't condemn someone based on tone of voice for gods sake.”

No one is condemning her. I find that a bit melodramatic.
Tone is essential to understanding meaning.

I don't like or dislike Natasha the person because I don't know her. I don't like a lot of her behavior on the show. Without knowing if she's acting up for the cameras or thinks it's a good game plan to go for the one hm who the crowd bays for or if she's displaying her real and true self so I have no way to know if I like or not. I wish she'd find a new target.
Ketamine
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“No one is condemning her. I find that a bit melodramatic.
Tone is essential to understanding meaning.

I don't like or dislike Natasha the person because I don't know her. I don't like a lot of her behavior on the show. Without knowing if she's acting up for the cameras or thinks it's a good game plan to go for the one hm who the crowd bays for or if she's displaying her real and true self so I have no way to know if I like or not. I wish she'd find a new target.”

You're giving blame to her, when someone else is shouting vile things at her, based on her tone of voice. You don't think that's a little unfair?
wotnot
15-09-2015
What I saw of Natasha in that first episode was quite typical of the type of person who wants to show that they can't be messed with. She had clearly seen Farrah's program, she had clearly heard of Farrah's reputation and was intent on getting in there first with some lairy attempt to be alpha female. The dodgy strut back into the house after the row with Farrah made me giggle at the time but it's actually quite sad that she's still trying to be lairy at her age.
exodus2u
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“I'd say there are about four posters who 'support' her. Thankfully, there are quite a few who feel that they're not obliged to 'support' or 'hate' anyone in order to be allowed to post in a DISCUSSION.”

Touche!
yellowlabbie
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“Disliking what Natasha has done and continues to do is no indication of support for Farrah. Just like finding Ashleigh bitchy did not indicate a support for Helen.”

I'm not so sure I agree with that Vesna, I believe many supported and voted for Helen to spite Ashleigh fans for voting out, oh what was her name, I can't remember it at the moment. In fact, some even admitted it afterwards.

I have noticed however that those who do not like Natasha, seem to support Farrah, even though they say they do not support her
yellowlabbie
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by rolergirl:
“i like Natasha and Farrah, I wouldnt mind either winning.”

Wow, now that's rare on here
Ketamine
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
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As you know, Vesna. I don't hold much truck with people who persist in discussing posters and not the show..”

Hmm i seem to remember a certain poster interjecting into the "go have a baby by another man'' thread the other night. Lets see:

Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“What strikes me is that posters on here have NO issue whatsoever with discussion about Farrah and Jenna's kids and sexual behaviour. Any mention of Natasha's is beyond the bounds, though. It would be fair to say, I think, that at a striking number of posts about Natasha refer to her sex life/sex tape.

Many posters on here are monumental hypocrites”

Talk about hypocrites.
yellowlabbie
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Ketamine:
“I don't really care enough to "support" any housemate but when people are dishonest and make up their own events, it does kinda annoy me.”

What really annoys me is making out that Natasha is bad or worse than Farrah. That is just not so and we have seen proof of it on the h/ls and we can only judge from the h/ls because that is what most people watch. Farrah has fired the most revolting things out of her mouth, and not just at Natasha of course. There is no excuse for it.
yellowlabbie
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Ketamine:
“Hmm i seem to remember a certain poster interjecting into the "go have a baby by another man'' thread the other night. Lets see:



Talk about hypocrites.”

Indeed, they just don't see it. Oh wait, where have I seen this before? Anyway I'm out of here, it's pointless.
Ketamine
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“What really annoys me is making out that Natasha is bad or worse than Farrah. That is just not so and we have seen proof of it on the h/ls and we can only judge from the h/ls because that is what most people watch. Farrah has fired the most revolting things out of her mouth, and not just at Natasha of course. There is no excuse for it.”

It's amusing though seeing them try to argue it though, having to scrape the barrel with "facial expressions" and "tone of voice".

They can't actually tell you anything she's done so they speculate about what they think is going on in her mind.
rolergirl
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Wow, now that's rare on here”

ive said it from day one, i wanted Natasha to win, it is stated on the first polls on here, but then then felt sorry for farrah after the bobby nom, (im not going to go over that again) but still like Natasha as well.
yellowlabbie
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Ketamine:
“It's amusing though seeing them try to argue it though, having to scrape the barrel with "facial expressions" and "tone of voice".

They can't actually tell you anything she's done so they speculate about what they think is going on in her mind. ”

I agree it is all speculation on their part.
patsylimerick
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Ketamine:
“Hmm i seem to remember a certain poster interjecting into the "go have a baby by another man'' thread the other night. Lets see:



Talk about hypocrites.”

The post you quoted referred to the housemates; and commentary on the housemates and the difference in commentary relating to the housemates. Remember them, the housemates? When's the last time you talked about them? Consider that a rhetorical question. I suppose the baiting should be flattering, but I find it tiresome.
Venetian
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Ketamine:
“It's amusing though seeing them try to argue it though, having to scrape the barrel with "facial expressions" and "tone of voice".

They can't actually tell you anything she's done so they speculate about what they think is going on in her mind. ”

Many people do that, we all agree with the ones with the same or similar opinions as us and disagree with those who dare to disagree with us

[When I say "us" I don't mean you and me, I refer to people who post on the BB thread in general].
MACTOWIN
15-09-2015
IMO Natasha cant stand the fact that Jenna and Natasha are the show and she is merely a back up act to them I think she expected to be the main focus of the House and that has not happened. It appears Natasha spends her days sucking Lemons and it is not a good look. I will add that imo she will win the show as over the next week BB will get rid of Jenna and Farrah they have served their purpose but BB will not want one of them winning.
Reality Sucks
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Aimee:
“I like Natasha, God knows she's been under attack in there, so we've seen her being defensive at times. But she is always logical, and tries hard to get the people to listen in a reasonable non-shouty way.

BTW walking away from an argument [which some people seem to think is a a sin] is wise in that house.

Farrah got the hump that first night because Natasha pointed out that she was a sore loser in the first task. The problem from the viewer POV is we didn't see Farrah's 'bad loser' reaction, we only saw Natasha talking about it.
I'm 100% sure, having seen Farrah through the rest of the series, that Natasha was 100% correct that Farrah WAS most definitely a sore loser and, for that reason Natasha had a reasonable, gut reaction, to send her into the tower.

They had to choose someone, and that's a good reason to choose when people don't know each other. First impressions was all they had to go on Farrah made a 'not good' one and Natasha said so.

Had we seen Farrah's bad loser reaction we'd agree with Natasha. BB didn't show it.”

She doesn't want people to listen, she wants them to admit that they were wrong. That woman holds grudges and never forgets. How many times has she brought up the wine incident? She just goes on and on and on.

Her intention is not to make peace - it's to continue the argument and prove that she's right.
Stupid_Head
15-09-2015
I think she's ok but I don't want her to win just because she's a "victim" of Farrah and Jenna, I haven't seen much of her personality aside from a little bitchy sheer every once and a while outside of the arguments so I don't understand her popularity.
David_Robinson1
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Luner13:
“Anyone else cannot abide Natasha?”

I don't believe she's been 100 per cent in the house, but have always liked her since the debut of 'Right Now' on TOTP (mind, there was that part of the dance where she....)
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