Exactly, it's his choice, just as it was Chloe's choice whether or not she wanted to participate. So why is he screaming at her face about it? Because it's all about the attention.

Also, relax, questioning someone's motives on a reality TV show is not disgusting etc etc. would you say that about the hordes of people who roll their eyes whenever an x factor singer tearfully dedicates a song to their dearly departed and says they're doing it because it was said dearly departed's dream to see them succeed as a singer?

No, I meant it isn't a pertinent line of enquiry because it has no basis in fact. That's all.


I promise, that had nothing to do with me. Your responses to my complaints have all been fair and measured, and I wouldn't have made good on my 'threat' (and I put that in quotes for a reason!) unless I felt it was needed. It wasn't, so I didn't.

We're all going to agree and disagree on different housemates (that's what the forum is for, after all!), but some posters are happy to allow any degree of personal insults, so long as a) the person being insulted isn't their personal favourite and b) the worst of it can be excused as nothing more than 'opinion'.

Austin's feelings are still raw for his brother that is understandable he should feel upset.
However he knew he was going in the BB house during this period of grieve. If he knew he was going to be so upset maybe he should have given BB a wide berth.
It was respectful of the hm's to join Austin and raise a toast to someone they did not know. I don't think he should have expected all feel the same way.

You are dealing with perceptions of motivation so there really isn't any 'fact'. Can you really prove his motivations are genuine...for instance his reaction to Chloe is easily open to interpretation and if you are suspicious of him..they will only affirm those suspicions.

I initially liked Austin ...(with reservations) but his behaviour with Gail completely turned my perceptions of him.

Obviously optional!
It said a lot about Austin when he threw a double six when Chloe didn't attend.
Had he been a humble soul, he would have kept his feelings to himself ...... but ohh no!

Precious Austin had to blow his top, shout and scream about it ...... To me, that said a lot about him. Did I once say I liked him? ..... I believe I did ...... Not anymore!

I can't prove his motivations are genuine, but then again, I don't have to, since I'm not the one who's questioning his motives. I accept them for what they are, based on my own perceptions of the man.

By the way, I'm also a bit confused as to why the mods removed your posting, since it wasn't the one which originally got my pantyhose in such a pallaver.

So far they have declined to respond and neither has any person that may have complained about it. IMHO a professional modding system always leaves some kind notification so as to not cause confusion or offence. We live in hope............................

It is a difference of opinion and attitude and that's absolutely fine. We all see through things with different eyes, and ultimately that's a good thing.

Optional even I haven't attended funerals of my extended family members who were close. Here they're all strangers

Of course in theory it's optional, but given that the house is small and they're under each other's feet all day and night, it would have been friendly and supportive if everyone had listened to Austin's words.

If I'd had to live with Chloe Jasmine for any length of time I would have burst by now, she's an impossible, entitled, whinging child IMVHO. I can imagine her puerile excuses about why she didn't leave her bed would have incensed me - therefore I have no problem with what Austin said to her at all.

If she is indeed an alcoholic she's put her recovery in grave jeopardy by going into the house at all.

You have hit the nail on the head !

One aspect that no one seems to have touched on is that, given that she did not give a true reason for not attending, makes one wonder what the real reason was and the fact she was to embarassed or to ashamed to admit it just makes her seem even more guilty!

Guilty of what??? I'm not a fan of the divine Ms Chloe but since when were HM's obligated to other HM's?????? As far as I remember she hinted at a reason that she didn't truly want to disclose but then why should she?

It's obviously emotional for Austin, and she hasn't stayed away from alcohol at any other time, maybe she was having a bad day, but she is so fake I can understand how he could feel she hurt his feelings because she couldn't be bothered to get out of bed for a few moments.

LMAO.....I have to admit seeing him on tonights show has changed my opinion of him...I think I have previously been far too forgiving.

LOL.

guilty of lying about her dirty little secret, whatever it was she couldnt bare to spill it so it must have been bad.........

Yes, my feeling exactly.

Of course it was optional, you cank( force somebody to pay their respects to the dead, especially not when they'd never met them.

But, when it clearly meant so much to somebody that you are having to live with then i would argue that everybody should have put themselves out to attend. It is not as though they were having to cancel other events for it, is it?

The issue with Alcohol clouds the issue a bit. On the one hand, she has been around it every night since the show started and yet it only became a problem then? I can see why Austin felt slighted and upset. But then, maybe she was having a paticuarly bad day and felt she just couldn't cope then and didn't see why she had to, unlike say evictions where she must have to stay in the room, around alcohol however she feels.

Austin is doing himself no favours being a ++++ about it though - saying stuff like "it's not a disease". Yes it is. Whether Chloe actually is an Alcoholic or not (and how can he prove she isn't whilst in there), there are millions in the country who are or have personal experience of it and they are hardly likely to vote for him after seeing that are they.

Not at all ...maybe it was something personal that she hadn't quite come to terms with...she nor anyone else don't have to justify themselves to Austin and why on earth should he think they should...............

But why would it mean so much to him whether she is in her bedroom or not? what difference does it make to him?

I agree. He not been friendly to her. Don't like either of them by the way.

It doesn't really matter why Chloe wasn't at the toasting because she didn't have to be there if she didn't want to!

Austin is over reacting and making a too big a issue of the whole thing. I am sure it is for air time and he's annoyed that Chloe and Stevie are still there. I hope Austin goes this Friday. He's let himself down and is now just bullying Chloe!

This^^^
Would he pick on Scoop or Jenna who would rip him a new one? I don't think so - he
picks away at Chloe because she's meek and an easy target - he's a straight up bully.

First she said that Janice had told her to stay in bed which angered Austin, because he thought she should have made up her own mind. When he didn't back off she brought the alcohol into the equation and when he pointed out that she'd been around alcohol every single night, she started to shout and cry. I imagine that Janice knew about CJ's problem with alcohol and was advising her to stay away on that specific occasion.


He picks away at Chloe because she's getting on his very last nerve, as she is on mine!

I had every sympathy for him over the initial point, but he needs to let it drop now.

Oh, another thread about this subject! I voted Optional. It's good that Austin's quite rightly getting criticism about this. Even those who agree with him seem to be saying he should've let the matter drop much sooner rather than keep banging on about it. I wonder if he'll get any boos on Friday?

Optional of course,he had no right to demand they all attended his rather (in my opinion ) ott show of grief.