Plus the whole diary room crying where she feels scared makes her seem so fake...I'm sure someone under all that crying we'll see the real Chloe...
Chloe sucks the energy out of Stevie...poor guy..
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I actually think he is manipulative and is likely responsible for just how insecure and dramatic she is now.
He blows hot and cold, tests her boundaries and barely stands up for her. No wonder she is such a mess.
I'm not a fan of either of them, but he is quite a nasty piece of work (but subtle with it).
He blows hot and cold, tests her boundaries and barely stands up for her. No wonder she is such a mess.
I'm not a fan of either of them, but he is quite a nasty piece of work (but subtle with it).
Originally Posted by Mrs Checks:
“I actually think he is manipulative and is likely responsible for just how insecure and dramatic she is now.
He blows hot and cold, tests her boundaries and barely stands up for her. No wonder she is such a mess.
I'm not a fan of either of them, but he is quite a nasty piece of work (but subtle with it).”
“I actually think he is manipulative and is likely responsible for just how insecure and dramatic she is now.
He blows hot and cold, tests her boundaries and barely stands up for her. No wonder she is such a mess.
I'm not a fan of either of them, but he is quite a nasty piece of work (but subtle with it).”
I think you've made some very good points here .
I was on to him , when she was being accused of being so clingy in the early days,
but he thought he was being sneaky telling her in the toilet that he saw the way she looked at James and he was seeking reassurance from her .
They came out of the toilet then she was hanging all over him .
Originally Posted by Marie4eva:
“Plus the whole diary room crying where she feels scared makes her seem so fake...I'm sure someone under all that crying we'll see the real Chloe...”
“Plus the whole diary room crying where she feels scared makes her seem so fake...I'm sure someone under all that crying we'll see the real Chloe...”
True, but he is also a bit of a drip, who either has no opinion on anything or is too scared to say it.
I'd have jumped to Chloe's defence immediately if she were my fiancé. I just don't get him.
Yes, it's ok to be placid and a peacemaker, but occasionally, you're going to have to get your hands dirty when people cross the line! You can't be Mr Placid 24/7 or you become Mr Doormat
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“True, but he is also a bit of a drip, who either has no opinion on anything or is too scared to say it.
I'd have jumped to Chloe's defence immediately if she were my fiancé. I just don't get him.
Yes, it's ok to be placid and a peacemaker, but occasionally, you're going to have to get your hands dirty when people cross the line! You can't be Mr Placid 24/7 or you become Mr Doormat”
“True, but he is also a bit of a drip, who either has no opinion on anything or is too scared to say it.
I'd have jumped to Chloe's defence immediately if she were my fiancé. I just don't get him.
Yes, it's ok to be placid and a peacemaker, but occasionally, you're going to have to get your hands dirty when people cross the line! You can't be Mr Placid 24/7 or you become Mr Doormat
”
Excellent post Enima
Originally Posted by celtic star:
“I think you've made some very good points here .
I was on to him , when she was being accused of being so clingy in the early days,
but he thought he was being sneaky telling her in the toilet that he saw the way she looked at James and he was seeking reassurance from her .
They came out of the toilet then she was hanging all over him .”
“I think you've made some very good points here .
I was on to him , when she was being accused of being so clingy in the early days,
but he thought he was being sneaky telling her in the toilet that he saw the way she looked at James and he was seeking reassurance from her .
They came out of the toilet then she was hanging all over him .”
Yes, I actually found that whole incident over James a bit disturbing.
He was gaslighting her by telling her she had done something wrong but, if she didn't know what it was, he'd just have to let it go. I hate to say it, but that is classic emotionally manipulative behaviour.
It must've been some edit he got on the XFactor, it's like two different people. I thought he'd have more life about him.
I do like him and Chloe though.
I do like him and Chloe though.
Originally Posted by Mrs Checks:
“I actually think he is manipulative”
“I actually think he is manipulative”
You don't know what manipulative is then.
Originally Posted by Mrs Checks:
“He blows hot and cold, tests her boundaries and barely stands up for her. No wonder she is such a mess.
I'm not a fan of either of them, but he is quite a nasty piece of work (but subtle with it).”
“He blows hot and cold, tests her boundaries and barely stands up for her. No wonder she is such a mess.
I'm not a fan of either of them, but he is quite a nasty piece of work (but subtle with it).”
Please educate yourself
Originally Posted by CITIZENFOUR:
“You don't know what manipulative is then.
Please educate yourself”
“You don't know what manipulative is then.
Please educate yourself”
Educate myself about what, exactly?
Originally Posted by Mrs Checks:
“Educate myself about what, exactly?”
“Educate myself about what, exactly?”
About what you are attempting to talk about
Originally Posted by CITIZENFOUR:
“You don't know what manipulative is then.
Please educate yourself”
“You don't know what manipulative is then.
Please educate yourself”
Or you're blind to what manipulative is ?
You dont need an education to notice what he's up to .
Originally Posted by CITIZENFOUR:
“About what you are attempting to talk about”
“About what you are attempting to talk about”
No need to be so rude!
Originally Posted by Mrs Checks:
“I actually think he is manipulative and is likely responsible for just how insecure and dramatic she is now.
He blows hot and cold, tests her boundaries and barely stands up for her. No wonder she is such a mess.
I'm not a fan of either of them, but he is quite a nasty piece of work (but subtle with it).”
“I actually think he is manipulative and is likely responsible for just how insecure and dramatic she is now.
He blows hot and cold, tests her boundaries and barely stands up for her. No wonder she is such a mess.
I'm not a fan of either of them, but he is quite a nasty piece of work (but subtle with it).”
I think its him as well.
Originally Posted by hellsTinkerbell:
“I think its him as well.”
“I think its him as well.”
I must be the odd one out then, because I can the argument Mrs Checks brings up, and the arguments against Chloe, i.e, I think it's both of them.
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“I must be the odd one out then, because I can the argument Mrs Checks brings up, and the arguments against Chloe, i.e, I think it's both of them.”
“I must be the odd one out then, because I can the argument Mrs Checks brings up, and the arguments against Chloe, i.e, I think it's both of them.”
I agree. The relationship is toxic all round.
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“I agree. The relationship is toxic all round.”
“I agree. The relationship is toxic all round.”
Its not.
It is him.
The more im watching them the more im seeing its him.
He's a Mr nice guy..when he IS ACTUALLY massively passively aggressive.
He also says to her a lot "its not you babes"....irrespective of what has happened to them both in there.
Maybe that's why Austin is getting pissed off at Chloe...because he wants her to stand up for herself.
There is all tiny nuances that people pick up on that make them go off a person.
The relationship is not real. It is why Stevi did not stick up for Chloe. He didn't know what to say.
Stevi is not manipulative. He is just playing up to the cameras and trying to create some drama for air time. Everything is fake, fake, fake.
Stevi is not manipulative. He is just playing up to the cameras and trying to create some drama for air time. Everything is fake, fake, fake.
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“I can't understand why he bothers. He has a pleasing personality and could do so much better.”
“I can't understand why he bothers. He has a pleasing personality and could do so much better.”
Just watch him CC.
He would love to blow.
He's containing a lot.
if he wasn't he wouldn't have said to Austin to stop it as he wouldn't like to see what he's capable of doing.
Chloe is a free spirit...she's unbridled sadness.
Stevie is...pent up rage hidden by MR nice guy.
Stevi manipulative? He's a people pleaser and Chloe is reliant on him to please her.
He gives her what she needs, and she gives him what he needs - the answer to both is a relationship.
If you're looking for manipulative there are MUCH better candidates in that house. In fact, it's infested with egotitis and manipulitis.
He gives her what she needs, and she gives him what he needs - the answer to both is a relationship.
If you're looking for manipulative there are MUCH better candidates in that house. In fact, it's infested with egotitis and manipulitis.
Originally Posted by purplesky:
“Stevi manipulative? He's a people pleaser and Chloe is reliant on him to please her.
He gives her what she needs, and she gives him what he needs - the answer to both is a relationship.
If you're looking for manipulative there are MUCH better candidates in that house. In fact, it's infested with egotitis and manipulitis.”
“Stevi manipulative? He's a people pleaser and Chloe is reliant on him to please her.
He gives her what she needs, and she gives him what he needs - the answer to both is a relationship.
If you're looking for manipulative there are MUCH better candidates in that house. In fact, it's infested with egotitis and manipulitis.”
This isn't about the house though...its about them.
Stevie is getting way more out of the relationship.
Chloe has serious issues. It's clear that she does whether she is faking her emotional state or not. I actually feel sorry for her now. Stevi seems an okay although somewhat cringey bloke although he is clearly playing up to the cameras with his monologues and such. As a pair there is absolutely zero chance that their relationship is genuine. It's all to get a deal with Hello magazine and the like and that's what really bothers me about them.
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