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Old 19-09-2015, 12:55
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Vanessa already told him that he doesnīt have to win F3. Lol. He replied that he certainly is not going to throw it. Vanessa is not happy.
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Old 19-09-2015, 14:34
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She also said they should sit Liz down and tell her she's getting 3rd LOL
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Old 20-09-2015, 01:00
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Steve just said to himself 'Ian never made any big moves like I did'

What big moves did you make Steve? :\
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Old 20-09-2015, 10:59
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Steve just said to himself 'Ian never made any big moves like I did'

What big moves did you make Steve? :\
Steve's terrified refusal to make any big moves was a pretty big move on its own.
If you drink enough this logic begins to make sense.

Remember the squeaking hammock as Ian would violently rock for hours? Good times.
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Old 20-09-2015, 14:29
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Steve has been practicing his F3 eviction speech (if he wins LOL), I've edited his many repetitions.


"5 or 6 weeks ago Johnny Mac told me a very simple line, which at first seemed very absurd to me, but when I stopped to think about it, it made sense: Vanessa is Derrick. Vanessa, I have no idea how you got Austin when he was HoH to put up me and Johnny. I was amazed when you convinced James that the Jason backdoor was Shelli's and Clay's fault not yours and you convinced him to go after them. I was flabbergasted when I was sitting on the side of this last endurance competition and you used your charisma to convince Liz to drop out of the competition and give it to you. I have no idea how you worked this magic, but it is absolutely amazing. I'm standing here thoroughly convinced that across 17 seasons of Big Brother, you are the single most brilliant female player this game has ever seen and yeah, you kind of are "Derrick". So if we've had a F2 all season and you're "Derrick", that makes me "Cody". I've made a lot of contributions to our alliance, but there's no arguing you're the one who really drove it. That is why, when Derrick and Cody were sitting in the F2 last year, the Jury rightly voted for Derrick, because he was the one who drove it.

Therefore when Cody stood right here as the final HoH and decided to take Derrick to the F2, he made a $450k mistake. Vanessa I love you, but I cannot make the same mistake Cody made last year and I do have to vote to evict you. That's my speech."

Big talk, I still bet he chokes and gives the money to mommy LOL
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Old 20-09-2015, 14:39
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Steve will come second no matter which girl is there.
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Old 20-09-2015, 14:44
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I'm not sure about Steve coming second to Liz, actually. Aside from Julia, Austin and potentially Vanessa (it depends on her medicated mood) the other jury members seemed to grow distant from her as she increased her bond with Austin. A few of them might see her presence as the unjust reward of hiding behind actual players.

Mind you I'd rather Liz take the win than Steve, but that's personal based on Steve's gutless inaction. Dr. Will would frown at me if his Botox allowed it.
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Old 20-09-2015, 14:57
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Liz will not win when Steve tells the jury that she threw the first F3 comp to Vanessa. I mean, how stupid is she? How stupid is everyone doing what the psycho wants all the time? You gain nothing from throwing a comp in the finals.

Does Steve really think BB lets him do an eviction speech that long? I donīt like him but i am rooting for him to win the last comp just to see him evicting her. That alone would make up for this annoying season. But because everything goes wrong and everything goes in Vanessas favour ALWAYS i predict she will of course win the last comp and take Liz.
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Old 20-09-2015, 15:05
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Well Meg and James both said they wouldn't vote for Steve because they didn't feel like he was doing anything in the house. With most of brass tacks in the jury I could see Austin swaying them to vote for liz over Steve.

Gawd Steve in final 2, jury questions, 'I'm sorry repeat that one more time' LOL
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Old 20-09-2015, 15:15
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Gawd Steve in final 2, jury questions, 'I'm sorry repeat that one more time' LOL


Hi members of the jury!
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Old 20-09-2015, 15:33
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Well Meg and James both said they wouldn't vote for Steve because they didn't feel like he was doing anything in the house.
But neither did Liz. She only did what Austin and Vanessa told her to do also. And she had her meat shield Austin and her twin to protect her the whole game. Of course Steve didnīt do much but he had it much harder than her imo. Meg/James could vote for Liz just because they donīt like Steve and they summer campt with Austwins. It is possible. But if Steve evicts Vanessa they should give him credit for that. How can they give someone 500k that threw the first F3 comp?
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Old 20-09-2015, 15:47
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I don't think anyone should get credit for final 3 boot, it's just common sense. Just like Steve shouldn't gey credit for breaking the Austwins up as that's the only move he had.

But Liz had a few conversations with Meg and James about the game so they probably feel like she has done stuff especially with getting out big threats.
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Old 20-09-2015, 15:55
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But Liz had a few conversations with Meg and James about the game so they probably feel like she has done stuff especially with getting out big threats.
She only did get people out who were a threat to Vanessa, not her. I think Meg/James will rather vote based on who they like more than strategy. If i donīt like any of them i would give the money to the one who gets out Vanessa. And yes of course Steve should get credit if he gets out Vanessa because she is his F2. So he shows the jury that he is not her puppet.
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Old 20-09-2015, 15:56
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Becky was a physical threat to the twins and James broke up a showmance and went back on the deal so they always thought he'd do it again.
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Old 20-09-2015, 16:27
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Becky was a physical threat to the twins and James broke up a showmance and went back on the deal so they always thought he'd do it again.
But Liz was in an alliance with Meg/James. And Steve did get out Jackie who was also a threat.
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Old 20-09-2015, 16:49
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But neither did Liz. She only did what Austin and Vanessa told her to do also. And she had her meat shield Austin and her twin to protect her the whole game. Of course Steve didnīt do much but he had it much harder than her imo. Meg/James could vote for Liz just because they donīt like Steve and they summer campt with Austwins. It is possible. But if Steve evicts Vanessa they should give him credit for that. How can they give someone 500k that threw the first F3 comp?
I don't see it this way at all. Liz won comps during the game. She also kept a good relationship with most if not all of them. Steve had NO social game, he planted himself up Van's bum and stayed there.

I see Meg/ James/ Austin/ Julia/ Vanessa and Jacki all voting Liz over Steve.
John / Becki might as well and also Shelli who I think will vote either woman over Steve.

I don't think they'll credit him with that because it's too little too late. I don't see Steve beating Vanessa in the last comp either. But we'll all see soon..
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Old 20-09-2015, 16:56
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I'm not sure about Steve coming second to Liz, actually. Aside from Julia, Austin and potentially Vanessa (it depends on her medicated mood) the other jury members seemed to grow distant from her as she increased her bond with Austin. A few of them might see her presence as the unjust reward of hiding behind actual players.

Mind you I'd rather Liz take the win than Steve, but that's personal based on Steve's gutless inaction. Dr. Will would frown at me if his Botox allowed it.
Jacki, Meg and James will not vote Steve. Obviously Julia and Austin will vote Liz over Steve or Vanessa. John will probably not vote Steve either but I'm not sure.
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Old 20-09-2015, 17:00
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John will vote for Steve, he hates the twins.
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Old 20-09-2015, 17:13
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John will vote for Steve, he hates the twins.
Thats the only thing that is certain. John voting for a twin is not happening EVER. Also Steve has Shellis vote over Liz 100%. I canīt see Vanessa not voting for Steve. She is a gamer, she knows its his best move to evict her. If she doesnīt vote for him it would be a shame. So he needs 2 more votes. Becky will rather vote for Steve than Liz. Jackie i am not sure but i donīt think she is a big fan of the twins either.
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Old 20-09-2015, 18:37
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Thing is though whenever Vanessa talked about Steves game with Austin she never said anything positive about it, plus she's always going on about wanting girls to win more.

Having Julia and Austin in the jury house spending time with the others will help.
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Old 20-09-2015, 18:49
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Thing is though whenever Vanessa talked about Steves game with Austin she never said anything positive about it, plus she's always going on about wanting girls to win more.
I am not sure if Vanessa is serious about wanting a girl to win. She is saying that to Liz of course. She is more the tomboy not the girly girl or feminist. I doubt she cares about gender but who knows. She was really close to Steve on a personal level. I would be shocked if she isnīt going to vote for him. If Liz played a much better game i would understand, but she didnīt.

Well, whatever. I could be totally wrong here but normally i predicted the jury votes very well.
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Old 20-09-2015, 20:46
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John will vote for Steve, he hates the twins.
He hates them all. Remember
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Old 20-09-2015, 20:49
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Thats the only thing that is certain. John voting for a twin is not happening EVER. Also Steve has Shellis vote over Liz 100%. I canīt see Vanessa not voting for Steve. She is a gamer, she knows its his best move to evict her. If she doesnīt vote for him it would be a shame. So he needs 2 more votes. Becky will rather vote for Steve than Liz. Jackie i am not sure but i donīt think she is a big fan of the twins either.
Is it though? All the people he likes are in jury with him sans Clay. So he'll have to vote for someone he doesn't like...

Shelli's vote is not a given, she's well aware that Steve's game is doing whatever Vanessa told him to do. That's why I think she'll go Liz it will come down to male or female as neither was a strong gamer, but IMO Liz was moreso than Steve. Same with Becki but 100% he doesn't have Meg, James, Jacki (she hates Steve) Austin or Julia.
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Old 20-09-2015, 21:02
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Is it though? All the people he likes are in jury with him sans Clay. So he'll have to vote for someone he doesn't like...

Shelli's vote is not a given, she's well aware that Steve's game is doing whatever Vanessa told him to do. That's why I think she'll go Liz it will come down to male or female as neither was a strong gamer, but IMO Liz was moreso than Steve. Same with Becki but 100% he doesn't have Meg, James, Jacki (she hates Steve) Austin or Julia.
Am I wrong in thinking Jackie had an even worse relationship with the twins than Steve? She seemed to ice over whenever they would enter a room and talk about most anything.

Jackie being a naturally warm person to begin with, this is saying something.

This all seems like a struggle to recall events from six months prior now.
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Old 20-09-2015, 21:11
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Yeah Jackie and Liz had no friendship what so ever, I think because of Austin. Liz keeps talking about Jackie every day and worrying Austin is flirting with her.

Although Steve got Jackie out so who knows who shes voting for.
John thought Liz had no game what so ever, that she was just there so he will be voting for Steve/Vanessa.
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