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Old 23-09-2015, 00:38
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What are your fields of expertise Terry?


Thats very nice of you Rose, I do appreciate you taking an interest, but I have really never had any desire to blow my own trumpet, I tend to prefer to let others that I know do it for me.

As far as my dance opinions are concerned though I consider myself generally to be a voice of reason.
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Old 23-09-2015, 09:17
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Has Mambo ever been danced on Strictly?

As for Anton's Latin - Strictly is watched by different people with very different views. some watch it simply as light entertainment, to have a bit of a giggle, etc., which is perfectly fine, and for that group of viewers Anton obliges.

Then there is another group of viewers who have actually studied, danced, teach and understand how Latin is meant to be danced, and for them Anton's Latin is entirely lacking in proper technique, etc.
didnt Kristina and Brian do one once.............

EDIT: I typed "Kristina and Brian mambo" into youtube and this came up

https://youtu.be/IFp0idjCtKE
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Old 23-09-2015, 09:23
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didnt Kristina and Brian do one once.............

EDIT: I typed "Kristina and Brian mambo" into youtube and this came up

https://youtu.be/IFp0idjCtKE


Thank you katt, isn't Kristina amazing.
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Old 23-09-2015, 13:25
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didnt Kristina and Brian do one once.............

EDIT: I typed "Kristina and Brian mambo" into youtube and this came up

https://youtu.be/IFp0idjCtKE
Oh bless them! That's not mambo. It's a hotch potch of bad Latin a la ballroom.

THIS is mambo! Eddie Torres - the King. Keep watching as the dancers spit into couples and show you how it's done. One of my fave dances, although it will wear you out!
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Old 23-09-2015, 13:35
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What are your fields of expertise Terry?
Wummery.
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Old 23-09-2015, 13:56
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Oh bless them! That's not mambo. It's a hotch potch of bad Latin a la ballroom.

THIS is mambo! Eddie Torres - the King. Keep watching as the dancers spit into couples and show you how it's done. One of my fave dances, although it will wear you out!
I was skeptical lol its a Strictly mambo
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Old 23-09-2015, 15:07
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Yes! the SCD paso is usually horrendous but, then again, I loathe ballroom paso and prefer the real thing! So I am biased
I hate most Ballroom pasos, but there have been a couple I have liked. The only pro that I liked dancing them was Artem.


The version I learned in Spain when studying flamenco, although we danced it as a Sevillana with castenets rather than with flamenco style with footwork and hands. Also known as El Soleo. They used to play it in the bullrings when the toreadors arrived. It also has French roots in the 16th century.
Pasodoble in Spain is synonimus with the music from the bullfights. Its also played in the verbenas (the parties in the villages squares where people dance, old people now a days).
I am not fond of castaņetas at all for flamenco or sevillanas. I dont mind them in other folk dancing from other parts of Spain, but flamenco for me, hands shaped beautifully.
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Old 23-09-2015, 15:08
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Oh bless them! That's not mambo. It's a hotch potch of bad Latin a la ballroom.
THIS is mambo! Eddie Torres - the King. Keep watching as the dancers spit into couples and show you how it's done. One of my fave dances, although it will wear you out!
I am just exhausted after watching 1 minute!
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Old 23-09-2015, 16:16
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I agree with you that the opinions of all viewers deserve equal respect regardless of their motives for watching Strictly Come Dancing, the majority as well as the elite few, but as we have all seen from the television programe egg heads, great knowledge possessed by an elite few can sometimes be accompanied by a certain degree of smugness, pomposity and a detectable air of false superiority, in my fields of expertise I try at all costs to guard against these failings at all times, not to do so would be foolish of me.
So do you think it is respectful to call people a "cliquey select" just because they happen to know about dancing?

Egg Heads? Wouldn't watch it if you paid me, but respect that plenty of others like it.
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Old 23-09-2015, 18:24
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I hate most Ballroom pasos, but there have been a couple I have liked. The only pro that I liked dancing them was Artem.

Pasodoble in Spain is synonimus with the music from the bullfights. Its also played in the verbenas (the parties in the villages squares where people dance, old people now a days).
I am not fond of castaņetas at all for flamenco or sevillanas. I dont mind them in other folk dancing from other parts of Spain, but flamenco for me, hands shaped beautifully.
Yes, I think I mentioned its link to the bullfight in my post. I did not enjoy Sevillanas at all. They bored me senseless! Flamenco was my passion and took me a good 6 years to master. I loved learning the palos and the footwork, but never really mastered palmas!
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Old 23-09-2015, 18:24
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I am just exhausted after watching 1 minute!
So fast!
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Old 23-09-2015, 18:26
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I was skeptical lol its a Strictly mambo
Sensible! They sometimes do terrible things to wonderful dances - but with such energy!
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Old 23-09-2015, 20:32
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For the 'danced too much' category, I nominate American Smooth (or the Strictly version of it which is nothing like the real dance), danced every week it seems whatever ballroom is offically meant to be.

Danced the best: probably Waltz because I think it is least easy to mutilate with gimmicks etc. Strictly version is a bit twee at times though

Danced the worst: Foxtrot (my favourite ballroom). What a sad dismal earnest dance it appears to be on Strictly! And Rumba - couldn't we have some nice basic rumbas with recognisable steps and less self conscious posturing?
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Old 24-09-2015, 09:42
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For the 'danced too much' category, I nominate American Smooth (or the Strictly version of it which is nothing like the real dance), danced every week it seems whatever ballroom is offically meant to be.

Danced the best: probably Waltz because I think it is least easy to mutilate with gimmicks etc. Strictly version is a bit twee at times though

Danced the worst: Foxtrot (my favourite ballroom). What a sad dismal earnest dance it appears to be on Strictly! And Rumba - couldn't we have some nice basic rumbas with recognisable steps and less self conscious posturing?
Beautifully put! Totally agree I loathe Rumba on SCD. It's awkward and rather tacky - and the pros always look like they are dying of embarrassment
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Old 24-09-2015, 09:56
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Sensible! They sometimes do terrible things to wonderful dances - but with such energy!
tbh they butcher nearly every dance on Strictly

its not like it used to be! *sigh*
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Old 24-09-2015, 10:03
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tbh they butcher nearly every dance on Strictly

its not like it used to be! *sigh*
So true. I try to stay positive and watch out for the tiny moments of great dance.

However, most of the time I sit here muttering, 'what do you call THAT move. Make it go away' and wonder why I still watch it. If it wasn't for FF and Sky+ I'd be in deep trouble.

Truth is, if it has dance in it I will watch it - even very bad movies with the thinnest of plot lines.
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Old 24-09-2015, 10:09
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So true. I try to stay positive and watch out for the tiny moments of great dance.

However, most of the time I sit here muttering, 'what do you call THAT move. Make it go away' and wonder why I still watch it. If it wasn't for FF and Sky+ I'd be in deep trouble.

Truth is, if it has dance in it I will watch it - even very bad movies with the thinnest of plot lines.
ditto, I have been watching some of the 1st few series on youtube (what little there is on there nowadays) and the difference is phenomenal! gone are the days of pure dance and now was have faffing, props galore, awful music and me sitting staring at the tv screen muttering "that is a *insert dance name here*
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Old 24-09-2015, 14:37
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ditto, I have been watching some of the 1st few series on youtube (what little there is on there nowadays) and the difference is phenomenal! gone are the days of pure dance and now was have faffing, props galore, awful music and me sitting staring at the tv screen muttering "that is a *insert dance name here*
You gave Chris Parker a miss then

To be honest, I think the comedy (for want of a better word) contestants and routines are pretty much the same as they have always been - it's the better dancers who have been short changed (to me) by not being allowed to learn the straight up dances but given a mishmash of styles with inappropriate music and at times awful costuming and staging. It seems that over the last few series when you get a good dance it's in spite of everything that's been thrown at it!
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Old 24-09-2015, 17:15
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You gave Chris Parker a miss then

To be honest, I think the comedy (for want of a better word) contestants and routines are pretty much the same as they have always been - it's the better dancers who have been short changed (to me) by not being allowed to learn the straight up dances but given a mishmash of styles with inappropriate music and at times awful costuming and staging. It seems that over the last few series when you get a good dance it's in spite of everything that's been thrown at it!
well, no actually, because he was series one and tbh I didnt know much about ballroom and latin dance (I dont know much now but I have lessons and think I know a decent waltz from a bad one) but I knew he was a terrible dance but he tried and I think that is what I found endearing - does that make sense at least back in the early series, even if the celebs were terrible, you could at least tell what dance they were doing - nowaways its tricky to tell a salsa from a samba, an American Smooth to any of the ballroom dances bar the tango..............
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Old 25-09-2015, 14:04
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See tango is easy they try to get a crick out of neck and look intense.

You know when watching those early trading clips I didn't know what a few of them where doing but I did recognise the tango. 😀
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