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Austin is a little bit predatory towards James....
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mmpfb
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by moleymo:
“I know how I feel watching a married man flirt on TV that's enough ok? I hated the way John Mccrirrik treated his wife with such disrespect and I said that too although she obviously doesn't mind being talked about like dirt and her husband being a pervert I still disliked him for it
It's a personality show and it's my personal opinion”

Of course, but it's a discussion forum and I'm perfectly entitled to express how I feel about the judgements you are expressing.

By the way, it's only disrespectful to Austin's husband if Austin's husband has expressed that it's an issue for him.
What name??
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by broadshoulder:
“So your judging and condemning him yourself. If the husband says its banter, its banter.”

I don't think even you believe this argument. Are you seriously saying that if Farah stripped off naked, threw her cosie at James and then tried to wrestle him that you would be arguing if her boyfriend doesn't mind why should be judge her behaviour to be over the top and more than friendlyness?
coke_pepper
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Of course, but it's a discussion forum and I'm perfectly entitled to express how I feel about the judgements you are expressing.

By the way, it's only disrespectful to Austin's husband if Austin's husband has expressed that it's an issue for him.”

Just a bit absurd. If one half of a couple is cheating on the other, they don't have to voice there disapproval to validate it being disrespectful.
moleymo
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Of course, but it's a discussion forum and I'm perfectly entitled to express how I feel about the judgements you are expressing.

By the way, it's only disrespectful to Austin's husband if Austin's husband has expressed that it's an issue for him.”

I disagree when words like homophobia are used many of my favourites from past series have been gay my over all favourite is Christopher hall I think he's lovely
I disagree also that only his husband is allowed to call Austins behaviour disrespectful
Are we all not allowed to express an opinion until we wait and see what the housemates partners have to say, I remember prestons girlfriend in the crowd cheering her man on on finale night and he dumped her for Chantelle live on TV, was it wrong for me to express how flirty and disrespectful he was to his girlfriend all the way through?
Kim last year used to talk none stop about how much she loved her boyfriend and he supported her on BBBOTS despite the obvious change in her affections a few weeks in
If you are on Big Brother you are there to be judged , no one is off limits because they are gay
Tony_Daniels
18-09-2015
There isn't anything remotely sexual about their friendship at all. People need to listen to themselves.

James is just as playful with Austin and engages in the same kind of horseplay with him. Yet for James it's fine because he's straight and single. But Austin, being gay and married it's inappropriate and predatory?

Should gay people, particularly those in relationships, be prevented from forming close friendships with other men in case it upsets homophobes?
Nesta Robbins
18-09-2015
Austin's not predatory and their friendship is genuine. There is however, a massive contrast in their personalities, with Austin being loud, hyped up and brash and James, (surprisingly from what we saw on the Apprentice) the more quiet, patient, calm and steady one of the pair. All I can think is that with Austin being soo over the top and full-on at times, perhaps *some" might read that as him being keen on James, but I can't see it..
Deb Arkle
18-09-2015
FWIW, if OH were in the house and flirting with a girl I wouldn't be happy about it - but that's because he's not at all flirtatious (I had to ask him out!), so I would know that it would be a serious crush.
Some of my ex boyfriends were very flirty - not unlike Austin - and, had I seen them behave in the same way to a girl I wouldn't be bothered, because that's their nature. They like to flirt but it doesn't mean anything sinister is afoot. (I'm in this camp too, I like to flirt but it doesn't mean anything.)
broadshoulder
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by moleymo:
“I
If you are on Big Brother you are there to be judged , no one is off limits because they are gay”

When you use the word 'predatory' it becomes a gay issue...
coke_pepper
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by Deb Arkle:
“FWIW, if OH were in the house and flirting with a girl I wouldn't be happy about it - but that's because he's not at all flirtatious (I had to ask him out!), so I would know that it would be a serious crush.
Some of my ex boyfriends were very flirty - not unlike Austin - and, had I seen them behave in the same way to a girl I wouldn't be bothered, because that's their nature. They like to flirt but it doesn't mean anything sinister is afoot. (I'm in this camp too, I like to flirt but it doesn't mean anything.)”

You're kidding yourself on. You've got a fair amount to learn about the male spieces.
To sum up. Women like to flirt because it gives there ego a boost. Men like to flirt to get into womens underwear.
Heatherbell
18-09-2015
It's predatory , there is no getting away from it . James has said he wants to move out of the shared bed but is worried about Austin being offended . That's creepy and indicative of James wanting to put distance between himself and Austin .
I dislike married HMs flirting and sharing beds , no matter what gender or mix of genders . I think it's disrespectful to their partners . I don't care if their partners are OK with it , in my eyes once you are married flirting is off the menu and bed sharing when there are lots of empty beds available is taking the proverbial .
Obviously others disagree , but there you go , that's life .
What name??
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by broadshoulder:
“When you use the word 'predatory' it becomes a gay issue...”

So if anyone thinks Tilla ir Jenna is predatory it's an opinion but if they think Austen is its homophobia?
What name??
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by coke_pepper:
“to sum up. Women like to flirt because it gives there ego a boost. Men like to flirt to get into womens underwear.”

I'm pretty sure James is flirting just for the attention and his ego.
Heatherbell
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by What name??:
“So if anyone thinks Tilla ir Jenna is predatory it's an opinion but if they think Austen is its homophobia?”

It's bizarre isn't it ?
OK, so how come ladies of a certain age attracted to young men are known as "cougars" ? I'd say cougars are very predatory .
So no , it isn't homophobic terminology in the least .
Deb Arkle
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by coke_pepper:
“You're kidding yourself on. You've got a fair amount to learn about the male spieces.
To sum up. Women like to flirt because it gives there ego a boost. Men like to flirt to get into womens underwear.”

LOL we'll have to agree to disagree in that case!
patricia50
18-09-2015
[quote=broadshoulder;79681359]
Originally Posted by patricia50:
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Yes, it is. Its very homophonic

Are you gay?”


This doesn't even deserve an answer
What name??
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“So no , it isn't homophobic terminology in the least .”

I think it can be. There is s myth about predatory gays and turning people gay and that is homophobic. I'm just saying it isn't always homophobic - but it often is.
Heatherbell
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by What name??:
“I think it can be. There is s myth about predatory gays and turning people gay and that is homophobic. I'm just saying it isn't always homophobic - but it often is.”

Of course it can be . But for someone to claim it as homophobic just because the alleged predator is gay is ridiculous . It can apply to all genders and is not in any way homophobic .
broadshoulder
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by What name??:
“So if anyone thinks Tilla ir Jenna is predatory it's an opinion but if they think Austen is its homophobia?”

Your missing my point

'Predatory' is an old word to describe gay people down the ages. It was used to entrap them

People are free to use whatever word they won't for Jenna/Farrah they want.
Heatherbell
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by broadshoulder:
“Your missing my point

'Predatory' is an old word to describe gay people down the ages. It was used to entrap them

People are free to use whatever word they won't for Jenna/Farrah they want.”

The word is not exclusive to gay men and I refuse to allow a perfectly ordinary word to be hijacked .
Below is just one example of the simple meaning . Every other source is similar .
I even checked the Urban dictionary and nowhere is it listed as a gay slur .

predatory
ˈprɛdət(ə)ri/
adjective
adjective: predatory

1.
(of an animal) preying naturally on others.
"predatory species of shark"
synonyms: predacious, carnivorous, hunting, raptorial, ravening; More
of prey;
rareraptatorial
"predatory birds"
2.
seeking to exploit others.
"she always felt at the mercy of predatory men"
synonyms: exploitative, wolfish, rapacious, greedy, acquisitive, avaricious, vulturine; rarevulturous
"I could see a predatory gleam in his eyes"
mmpfb
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by coke_pepper:
“Just a bit absurd. If one half of a couple is cheating on the other, they don't have to voice there disapproval to validate it being disrespectful.”

And again, flirtation ≠ cheating.

Besides, for all you know they may well have an open relationship.

Who are you to judge what behaviour is and isn't acceptable in someone else's relationship. That's for those two people to decide between themselves and them alone.
broadshoulder
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“The word is not exclusive to gay men and I refuse to allow a perfectly ordinary word to be hijacked .
Bs"”

In this case it is. Check the beginning of the thread for its use against one gay man...
pixieboots
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“The word is not exclusive to gay men and I refuse to allow a perfectly ordinary word to be hijacked .”

Good on you, the very idea that use of the word 'predatory' is a gay issue
I keep reading those posts in Dafydd's voice.
moleymo
18-09-2015
well obviously people on here are talking about Austins behavior not about gays down the ages, I find the use of the word homophobe has been used to stop discussion.
if Jenna was married acting in the way Austin is there would be endless threads about her behavior, can you imagine if she took her knickers off thew the in James face and then tried to grab his dick how many on here would see that as flirtation?
Heatherbell
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by broadshoulder:
“In this case it is. Check the beginning of the thread for its use against one gay man...”

Because he is behaving in what some of us consider 'predatory'. Not because he is gay, but because he is one human behaving in a predatory way to another .
In just the same way Tila did with James . She was awful . She and James are both single so flirting should have been fine and interesting to watch unfold , but she was way OTT and it was creepy to watch . The gender made no difference, predatory is predatory and as regards BB it's just an opinion .
I'm really truly sorry that you are so offended , but you've got your reasoning confused as regards one word and it's application .
broadshoulder
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Because he is behaving in what some of us consider 'predatory'. Not because he is gay, but because he is one human behaving in a predatory way to another .
In just the same way Tila did with James . She was awful . She and James are both single so flirting should have been fine and interesting to watch unfold , but she was way OTT and it was creepy to watch . The gender made no difference, predatory is predatory and as regards BB it's just an opinion .
I'm really truly sorry that you are so offended , but you've got your reasoning confused as regards one word and it's application .”

Hence the title of this thread "Austin is a little bit predatory towards James"

That entire title spawned this thread. God, knows how many responses we had agreeing with it

I dont think you realise what an inflammatory word it is. As I said they used to entrap gay men with this. Arrest them

Anyway, I seem to be repeating myself. Eepeating the same arguments but Justin and Jake would be appalled by this word.

Anyway, I dont expect him to srvive this night
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