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Old 18-09-2015, 22:09
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Why would it need to be innocently used ? It's a descriptive word, like 'boring' or 'amusing' , and can and is used regularly to describe all genders and preferences without anyone batting an eyelid .
Show me proof of this claim that it is a slur on gay men only .
It simply isn't true .
How about I show you a million articles, a thousand articles showing recent homophobic attacks on gay people

But no, your sticking with your story - obviously convinced your right. What was it you sight = you cringe around gay people

Well get cringing...
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:10
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I'm very very dismissive of you who calls everyone a homophobe because you don't know how to discuss a point properly , if you find discussions here difficult and don't know how to debate and just abuse people why are you even here?
Because you need to be taken down

The word homophobe really gets to you doesn't it?
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:13
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Because you need to be taken down

The word homophobe really gets to you doesn't it?
Yes it does because it's a bloody offensive word that you throw about to anyone who disagrees with you. I'm not a homophobe I am very supportive of gay rights and I dislike that you keep repeatedly saying that I am, I have reported you and will continue to do so until you stop
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:14
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Because you need to be taken down

The word homophobe really gets to you doesn't it?
Stop being such a troll. Your schtick is really tiresome.
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:15
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Because they are talking crap. Stupidity should be dismissed and purposely argumentative posts like yours ignored or reported
Don't worry love. The way your going you'll be the one who is reported.
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:16
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How about I show you a million articles, a thousand articles showing recent homophobic attacks on gay people

But no, your sticking with your story - obviously convinced your right. What was it you sight = you cringe around gay people

Well get cringing...
Excuse me ?
Never ever EVER in the history of the world have I said such a thing .
Go find where I said that and post it up here .

I'll be waiting and good luck with that , because you will be a long time hoking around to find anything remotely like that in my posting history .
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:17
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Predatory in that he is insisting sleeping with James when James wants to sleep alone
Austin said in an episode last week he is thinking of moving bed and James said he wouldn't dare as he wouldn't be able to sleep. James mentioned how bad they slept when they slept apart when they had separate bedrooms.

So basically, get your facts right
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:17
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Pretty sure 'predatory' was used to describe Hazel and possibly Tila - neither of whom are gay men, as far as I'm aware.
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:24
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Yes it does because it's a bloody offensive word that you throw about to anyone who disagrees with you. I'm not a homophobe I am very supportive of gay rights and I dislike that you keep repeatedly saying that I am, I have reported you and will continue to do so until you stop
Is that because you mark Austin down as "a little bit predatory"?
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:25
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Pretty sure 'predatory' was used to describe Hazel and possibly Tila - neither of whom are gay men, as far as I'm aware.
Of course it was cavalli .
And Chris(in the Helen Wood year) re his link to Ashling.
And Michelle re Stewart .
Etc etc .
Because it described what some saw as a predatory person . It had nothing to do with their sexual orientation and for anyone to lay claim to a simple English word as some kind of homophobic slur is just bizarre .It's once again not true .
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:27
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Of course it was cavalli .
And Chris(in the Helen Wood year) re his link to Ashling.
And Michelle re Stewart .
Etc etc .
Because it described what some saw as a predatory person . It had nothing to do with their sexual orientation and for anyone to lay claim to a simple English word as some kind of homophobic slur is just bizarre .It's once again not true .
It hasn't sunk in yet - the last thing you call a gay man is a "predatory person". Its just not done...
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:31
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It hasn't sunk in yet - the last thing you call a gay man is a "predatory person". Its just not done...
It's a plain and simple word .No ulterior meanings for it listed anywhere, and no history of it being used as anything other than the dictionary (Urban dictionary included) meaning . How you choose to interpret it is your issue , not mine .
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:32
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It hasn't sunk in yet - the last thing you call a gay man is a "predatory person". Its just not done...
Again that's rubbish , if someone is acting in a predatory way you don't first try and discover their sexual preferences before calling them a predator
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:33
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It hasn't sunk in yet - the last thing you call a gay man is a "predatory person". Its just not done...
Ive never seen a poster put so firmly in their place as you have been in here. Give it up now flower.
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:34
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Again that's rubbish , if someone is acting in a predatory way you don't first try and discover their sexual preferences before calling them a predator
Spot on .
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:37
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I think Austin is creepy.
If that was a married man in there with a single women all hell would have broke loose about their behaviour and the woman(james role) would have been ripped to shreds for leading the maried man on.
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:55
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I think Austin is creepy.
If that was a married man in there with a single women all hell would have broke loose about their behaviour and the woman(james role) would have been ripped to shreds for leading the maried man on.
True ^
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:56
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It's a plain and simple word .No ulterior meanings for it listed anywhere, and no history of it being used as anything other than the dictionary (Urban dictionary included) meaning . How you choose to interpret it is your issue , not mine .
It being a simple plain word is just a random fact.

Describing black professionals as too "urban" is a common pejorative, and quite obviously can be used to describe anyone of any race but yet it is known for those with common sense that the word has a history of being a negative trait normally given to blacks.

I hope you can see the similarities here.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=urban
Words related to urban: black, ghetto, rap, street. Read the first few definitions
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b05b1d029049d9

What is really needed here is common sense and understanding of the nuance in human language and communication.
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:56
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I think Austin is creepy.
If that was a married man in there with a single women all hell would have broke loose about their behaviour and the woman(james role) would have been ripped to shreds for leading the maried man on.
That is a married man in there; Austin. If James was a woman the same thing would stand. It wouldn't be leading on, because Austin is gay and nothing would happen, especially nothing that's not consensual . There'd be nothing to lead on.

Whatever they are doing in there it is completely consensual on both sides.
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Old 18-09-2015, 23:06
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It being a simple plain word is just a random fact.

Describing black professionals as too "urban" is a common pejorative, and quite obviously can be used to describe anyone of any race but yet it is known for those with common sense that the word has a history of being a negative trait normally given to blacks.

I hope you can see the similarities here.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=urban
Words related to urban: black, ghetto, rap, street. Read the first few definitions
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b05b1d029049d9

What is really needed here is common sense and understanding of the nuance in human language and communication.
None of that is relevant to the word 'predatory' which is a word of common usage that has never before been twisted into something vile before this thread .
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Old 18-09-2015, 23:11
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So the issue, as far as you're concerned, isn't that it's predatory behaviour, but that Austin is married and should refrain from flirting to appease his husband who doesn't seem to have a problem with it. Is that right?
It looks predatory whether his husband has a problem with it or not.
Some couples like to swing with others even though they are married(not that I am suggesting that austin and his partner are swingers lol) Everyone is different but I would bet that the majority of people would not be happy about seeing their partner constantly flirting with and fake humping someone else on tv.
Austin fancies the pants of James for sure.
James may or not fancy him back I am not sure about that but Austin has definitely been predatory.
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Old 18-09-2015, 23:14
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None of that is relevant to the word 'predatory' which is a word of common usage that has never before been twisted into something vile before this thread .
Yes it's always been such a lovely sweet word. How can people make out it has vile connotations
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Old 19-09-2015, 07:46
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Yes it's always been such a lovely sweet word. How can people make out it has vile connotations
It's a word which can be descriptive and critical. It's being used in both senses re Austin, and rightly so. What does his being gay have to do with anything?

It's strange how the people complaining about homophobia are the only ones conflating predatory behaviour with homosexuality. They must just be thick I reckon.
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Old 19-09-2015, 08:10
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I think James is leading Austin on after watching tonight's live feed and highlights show.
I still think Austin is a shit for being disrespectful to his husband but in-tonight's show we saw it was James who first removed his pants in the pool and Austin just copied him and going to bed he was saying how much he would miss sleeping with him despite James telling other housemates he wanted to stay in another bed , he kissed him goodnight which apparently opened Pandora's box which lead Austin to hump him
Then later on live feed we saw a very angry James shout at Austin for making him look bad on TV for asking for his reason, he said he wanted some time alone so went for a bath, predictably Austin was begging for forgiveness so James allowed him into the man tub so long as he dropped the whole conversation then told him to wear something sexy, to which Austin replied he would go naked then.

James isn't an idiot he knows that Pandora's box was opened ages ago but he still encourages Austin not because he fancies him but because he knows that loads of teen girls will find their relationship cute and that JAustin is a thing, he's also controlling Austin by manipulating his emotions
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