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Using economy beef burgers to make chilli con carne
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Toby LaRhone
24-09-2015
Originally Posted by tiacat:
“Arent we supposed to be eating the whole of the animal?”

I'd say it's "try to make use of" rather than eat.
When you buy a leg of lamb do you ask for the eyeballs and tongue?
IvanIV
25-09-2015
If it tastes okay, why not, fat meat actually has more flavour than a lean one anyway
walterwhite
25-09-2015
Originally Posted by njp:
“Our ancestors definitely did not eat comminuted cow.”

Pretty sure they did. It's a modern thing to not eat all of the animal, in the past anything that couldn't be eaten 'as is' would have been minced and made into sausages or similar.
njp
25-09-2015
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“Pretty sure they did. It's a modern thing to not eat all of the animal, in the past anything that couldn't be eaten 'as is' would have been minced and made into sausages or similar.”

When did any of our ancestors ever eat the bones, or the skin, or the hoofs etc?

Perhaps you think I'm being pedantic. In which case, consider the use of modern technology such as the high pressure forcing of bones and attached tissue through a sieve (Mechanically Separated Meat) or the "pink slime" created with the use of centrifuges. None of these things were available to our ancestors, even those recent enough to have been making sausages!
Jellied Eel
25-09-2015
That's just modern efficiency. Bones from middens do show scrape marks that would indicate lower tech approaches to recovering every possible scrap of meat. I guess it's somewhat ironic that modern living means we can be both more efficient at meat production and also more wasteful.
walterwhite
26-09-2015
Originally Posted by njp:
“When did any of our ancestors ever eat the bones, or the skin, or the hoofs etc?

Perhaps you think I'm being pedantic. In which case, consider the use of modern technology such as the high pressure forcing of bones and attached tissue through a sieve (Mechanically Separated Meat) or the "pink slime" created with the use of centrifuges. None of these things were available to our ancestors, even those recent enough to have been making sausages!”

Well obviously they didn't have all the modern methods we had, but rest assured if they had they would have used them.
Thomas Crewes
26-09-2015
Originally Posted by njp:
“When did any of our ancestors ever eat the bones, or the skin, or the hoofs etc?”

It's a common myth that our "ancestors" (despite the massively wide spectrum of different human cultures and societies across the world) were so much more efficient and less wasteful than us when it came to stuff like this. The fact is, on the whole, we've always been a wasteful species who would eat the stuff we like and toss what we didn't.
brangdon
26-09-2015
From http://fee.org/freeman/buffaloed-the...n-in-america/:

Quote:
“A powerful myth emerged-one repeated in many textbooks-that the Indians "used every part of the buffalo," implying that the Plains Indians used all the buffalo they killed. That was not the case. Estimates made in the 1850s suggest that Indians harvested about 450,000 animals a year, and some think the figure was far higher than that. After stripping the best meat and some useful parts, the Indians left the remainder to rot. The stench permeated the prairie for miles, and many a pioneer came across acres of bones from buffalo killed by the Indians before they moved on.”

jackol
26-09-2015
Originally Posted by swingaleg:
“I used to make home made kebabs with burgers......cook them then slice them up and put in pitta bread with bits of salady stuff and chilli sauce”

Thats a burger butty not a kebab as there is no kebab meat in it
jackol
26-09-2015
Originally Posted by bostin_austin:
“WTF sort of place do you shop in?”

You do know who the OP is? You are being wound up
Jellied Eel
26-09-2015
Originally Posted by Thomas Crewes:
“It's a common myth that our "ancestors" (despite the massively wide spectrum of different human cultures and societies across the world) were so much more efficient and less wasteful than us when it came to stuff like this.”

It's one of those things.. It depends. Some of it comes from the myths of the 'noble savage' and romanticised versions of peoples like the American Indians. So when they were confined to reservations, they didn't do so well having not been quite as good at the whole sustainable living thing.. and of course that wasn't helped by being stuck on some bad lands either. If stuff was abundant, then there's less need to minimise waste, and then as preservation methods got better, we could be more choosy about what got preserved.
mrsgrumpy49
26-09-2015
Originally Posted by njp:
“ In which case, consider the use of modern technology such as the high pressure forcing of bones and attached tissue through a sieve (Mechanically Separated Meat) or the "pink slime" created with the use of centrifuges. None of these things were available to our ancestors, even those recent enough to have been making sausages!”

I live in a rural area where there is one small supermarket with limited choice. Spent an age today perusing the cold meats. It was all made/formed from gunk masquerading as proper ham, chicken etc. Nasty nasty stuff
degsyhufc
26-09-2015
Originally Posted by jackol:
“Thats a burger butty not a kebab as there is no kebab meat in it”

Depends which part of the world you are in or where you are taking inspiration from.
Many people would describe it as a kofta.
walterwhite
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by jackol:
“Thats a burger butty not a kebab as there is no kebab meat in it”

I wouldn't call something in pitta bread a 'butty' personally.
gemma-the-husky
27-09-2015
I would never eat economy beef burgers. We only use best mince and by preference prefer to chop our own braising steak. It's not about cheapness.

Decent mince is only about £3 a pound. How little do you want to pay?
dellzincht
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by jackol:
“You do know who the OP is? You are being wound up”

Thankfully, he's been banned.
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