And that fansite is the voice of authority because.......?

Does anyone know the old show "Leave it to Beaver?"

James is a total Eddie Haskell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Haskell

Generally speaking, if FM's voted for Aaron to win because they liked his game then they never acknowledged that on forums. Discussions were never about tactical skill only that he was ethically in the right(fans) or ethically in the wrong (not fans).

Aaron played a devilishly cunning game, it was superb in fact, however the joke was on his poppets. Alternatively, his poppets were arguing disingenuously in order to save him from the game players kiss of death.

Jim Davidson: read above.
Pete Bennett: i don't agree he played a game. That's a new idea for me.
Brian Belo: Again he won on the genuine fun, nice guy ticket. Not the "fabulous game Brian" ticket. Didn't he?

My point is the facade, or act, or persona employed by game players is confused for the real person and that is a tactic. Austin says to James "we know each other really well" James replies "we don't know each other at all" James is being honest for once. but for the rest of the time Austin is getting to know James's act, like all of us are, and the act seemed to be working for him on the outside but on the inside the facade is cracking. It cracked for Aaron too especially when he voted in support of the Gordie lass in a crucial vote instead of his gf Fey. His explanations were non-sensical, still his poppets tried a rational case for him. I think less people are willing to argue for James in similar circumstances though. Which demonstrates to me that people are getting fed up with these con men/women on BB.



That is my point.

I think the better the tactician the more likely we are to be fooled. I totally fell for Belo's act at the time

James did it to align himself with the (clearly popular) Chloe & Stevie fans, as Jenna says here -
Day 23: Was James’s vote tactical?

The average BB fans will still lap it up though like good little sheeple being told who is the goodies & baddies

"Oooo me and me Grandpa we are thick as thieves we are... we go fishing & vote for Bobby Blair cause we're liberal men of the people who love the gays & we're kind of cheeky with it... you never quite know if we want you to give us bum sex or not Oooo"

Very eloquently put Mrs Checks. Agree 100%

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Originally Posted by Mrs Checks
That's quite an offensive statement, actually.

Firstly you're assuming that all straight women and gay men watching are only capable of making decisions on people via lust.

Secondly you're assuming that all straight women and gay men watching are automatically attracted to James, which is a pretty stupid assumption to make.

Your post comes off like you think very little of straight women and gay men and their intelligence.

Fair enough if you think James is fake, but perhaps you should come up with a valid argument as to why rather than making ridiculous untrue generalisations.


You say your offended like its supposed to mean something. You choose to take offence i don't give it. Its meaningless

Back to the point

99.9% of posts in social media say they love James because he's 'so hot'. or 'so fit'


The poster didn't say they were offended. They said your post was offensive. Completely different thing.

You know him personally then do you? Just by you saying so and so is this, that or the other, doesn't make it so. That's a massive assumption you are making there.

I really do not understand the 'black and white thinking' of a lot of the posters here who charge down an alley with an idea when it occurs to them, without ever thinking through other scenarios or reasons for people's behaviour or choices.

Hasn't it occurred to anyone that James might have picked Janice so there would be someone to diffuse things when Chloe got weird - as she seems to do a lot. Maybe it's in everyone in the house's interest for Janice to be there to assist and support Chloe, so they don't have to do it? James was obviously weighing up the pros and cons and maybe decided having Janice IN was preferable to potentially having Jenna out.

Automatically jumping on a 'James is playing a game' bandwagon is lazy and facile in my opinion.

Again, why have housemates got to make all their decisions based on 'who they are close to'?

Number one - this is a GAME show and tactics come in all the time, whether you like it or not, and number two - not everyone thinks in the shallow, simplistic, 'black and white' terms that many people on this forum seem to do. Maybe it's lack of intelligence, or just lazy thinking, but James had his own valid reasons for choosing Janice.

And if he is so what. He's given me more smile moments than anyone else on there, he's shown you can go on this show and have a bit of fun and be popular without being either a drunken idiot or a constant fighter.

EXACTLY - unfortunately, A.T. many posters on this forum do not have the thought process to work something like this out.

Didn't James vote to evict Chloe & Stevie in the first 2 evictions... and in the second (face 2 face) give Stevie a big speech afterwards that he has no beef with him, it's Chloe who is the problem.

Now after they've been saved multiple times he is Chloe's savior

But he didn't save them - the public did. I can't understand where you're going with your argument. As for being 'Chloe's savior' maybe it's best for the whole house that Janice is there to 'pick up the pieces' every time Chloe has a meltdown.

Also, whether James had picked Janice, Jenna or Bobby the end result would have been exactly the same anyway!

He is a fake imo he thought Farrah would chase after him instead he got Rubber Eared.

I'm a little on the fence about this. I'd like to see it play out for another few days to see what happens next.

It was James' decision, no one should be allowed to question something which was his personal choice and tell him he shouldn't have done that. Maybe he sat down on Friday, had a wonderful chat with Janice and so she was fresh in his mind when choosing people and wanted to give her another chance. Maybe he was just really anxious in the moment, people's names were flying round his head and he just blurted Janice out. Maybe it was purely tactical, but nominations are each housemates choice.

Where I think James went into slightly murky water is not who he did save, but who he didn't. While I think James and Jenna aren't exactly best buds and won't see each other out the house, inside the house they've always been quite cordial and friendly and definitely closer than James has ever been than Janice. What was much more surprising though was that James didn't save Bobby. This is someone that he really seems to like and spend time with. Janice would have been save. There is no way that James could have thought that Chlovi wouldn't save Janice. Of course they would have.

I think Jenna had a fair point asking James why he chose Janice over her. I think she did it in a bit of a conniving way though, whispering in Austin's ear and then (from what was said on live feed) interrupting Austin and James' conversation to push the subject. I find that I want to like Jenna, but she'll go and take the side of whoever the person she is with and then go say a different thing to someone else with a different opinion. I think Austin had a fair point calling James out on making a weird decision, James has said all week how he's say something to Austin if he feels he's been idiotic; he's got to accept the same back.

If James' vote was tactical, fair enough. Like I said, although James has always been quite friendly with Jenna, it's not someone he has a secure friendship with in the house. He hardly mourned her loss when she was fake evicted, so it should be ok that he uses her tactically. The thing about tactical voting though is that it's probably best to lie about it and let half of people believe you, rather than tell the truth and take away any doubt that you are in it to win it. I think James has his limits though. I definitely thing he would never vote (or in this case not vote!) for Austin, Sherrie and Natasha. I really believe that the friendships he has with those people are real and genuine. I said in the week that I think Bobby has (knowingly or unknowingly) been manipulating James and James didn't realise it. Maybe he did realise it...

His reason for saving Janice was because Chloe 'needed her' (Chloe would have saved Janice herself anyway)... The very person James nominated merely a week ago in the face 2 face noms saying "it's not against you Stevie, it's Chloe I'm nominating" when he picked Chlovie for the chop


If James had picked Jenna, & Chloe & Stevie would have obviously chosen Janice, Austin indicated he would have chosen Farrah over Bobby (they don't seem to get along as well as we are lead to believe).

That's what James does best, he plays everyone, he did it on The Apprentice & now on CBB. He would stab his best friend in the back to get what he wants.
James ISN'T the nice guy everyone thinks he is.

And how was he supposed to fool the housemates but not the public when both the viewers and the housemates heard what he said?

I agree.

Well then maybe that is why he chose Janice, to take away any chance of that happening.
Maybe he was just mixing it up a bit.....despite Jenna thinking otherwise there is no way that James would have saved her, they rubbed along in the house but I doubt he likes her much.............what's to like?

I wonder what age he was when he had his personality bypass but as he is "Fit" it wont matter to his target audience.

I am genuinely baffled as to how much of a fuss this has caused. The way I saw it, out of the people he could choose - Janice, Jenna, Farrah and Bobby - is he particularly close to any of them? It was always going to be random.

He comes across as a nice guy but I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

Which would make him even dimmer than you are giving him 'credit' for given that the GBP haven't exactly been that fond of Chlovie..and in any case how would they know how popular in reality they were. Jenna may think she's bright but the universe probably begs to differ................................

And one could ask again..why all the palaver ..unless he'd voted for Jenna or Farrah which was even more unlikely the result would have been exactly the same

Can I sell you a bridge? I think it'sire than Belo who had you fooled.