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Giffgaff Worse Than Ever For Data Speeds...
So I decided to try giffgaff again as reception in Three in my area is not great. Well how disappointed was I when I did a speed test on 3G and 4G...
3G = 0.20MB 4G = 1.1MB Both on full signal That's so poor I messaged an agent for a full refund.. On Three I can get 20MB on 1 bar of 4G signal and 5MB on 1 bar of 3G signal. How can giffgaff be so bad with data speeds, that are ridiculous! |
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Well couple the fact that in most areas O2 can barely manage 1Mb if you're lucky on 3G, with Giffgaff being the lowest priority on O2 masts, with lots of customers using that mast at once, that seems like a logical speed.
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I get that average 3g speed from EE mast closest to my house so you're not missing out. With full signal too (-77db)
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I did some speedtests well over a year ago now on giffgiff.
4G http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ftkbjp&s=8 3G http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rpthg4&s=8 2G http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=i3yxcl&s=8 Maybe it's time to see how much they have improved in my area. |
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Wonder if things will improve when the Three takeover is complete.
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Wonder if things will improve when the Three takeover is complete.
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I did some speedtests well over a year ago now on giffgiff.
4G http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ftkbjp&s=8 3G http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rpthg4&s=8 2G http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=i3yxcl&s=8 Maybe it's time to see how much they have improved in my area. |
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So I decided to try giffgaff again as reception in Three in my area is not great. Well how disappointed was I when I did a speed test on 3G and 4G... I get 0.5 in Congleton from '3' on 3G with a full signal, and there isn't even any 4G from three to test, so its not like the other networks are perfect either.3G = 0.20MB 4G = 1.1MB Suffice to say that O2 have at least brought 4G into this area! |
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I get 0.5 in Congleton from '3' on 3G with a full signal, and there isn't even any 4G from three to test, so its not like the other networks are perfect either.
Suffice to say that O2 have at least brought 4G into this area! |
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It's bizarre how high the upload is on 4G in comparison to the download.
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It's their O2 link saturation I think, from what I understand they have a certain link speed from the RAN back to GG and out or a certain allocation of capacity on the O2 network. Of course many are downloading and not many are uploading much data, most consumer ISPs are 90/10 ratio really. You don't upload much when you're making requests for web pages or video content, streams etc.
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Given the ownership I'm surprised it isn't literally just O2 but with different prices, no need to even be a formal MVNO
What impresses me is that I think they pay Fujitsu to do it all for them. Does O2 not have the expertise to run a second mobile network? |
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Given the ownership I'm surprised it isn't literally just O2 but with different prices, no need to even be a formal MVNO
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What impresses me is that I think they pay Fujitsu to do it all for them. Does O2 not have the expertise to run a second mobile network?
I wonder if that's some clever corporate outsourcing, so Telefonica don't have to handle variable cost. Making it much easier to sell later?
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I wonder what the IP address ownership shows via tracemyip.org when on a GG connection.
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Telefonica o2 UK
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A steady 1 megabit would do me, even half a megabit would be usable. The problem is it's so patchy,so on-off. Fails all the the time without reason.
If Tesco ever follow Sainsburys and Asda in introducing £10 bundles, I'll be off like a shot |
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Presuming the O2/Three deal is approved, http://48months.ie/ could be a taste of what's to come on GiffGaff. 48Months is O2 Ireland's cheap MVNO aimed at students, now part of Three.
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Never really been interested in data speeds as i never use them but just did a test,
I just use Giffgaff as pay £10 every three months for calls, gave the data a go using a Samsung s3 mini got d/l 1.18Mbps up/l 1.47Mbps, Not that it means much to me. |
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Given the ownership I'm surprised it isn't literally just O2 but with different prices, no need to even be a formal MVNO
What impresses me is that I think they pay Fujitsu to do it all for them. Does O2 not have the expertise to run a second mobile network? http://www.slideshare.net/baker011/g...s-presentation To what extent each bit is managed and whether gg traffic goes out of a different link remains unclear, it could just be O2 network deprioritization of gg users. However I think the IPs you get natted out of are gg? and they have had data outages which didn't affect O2. |
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MVNO's normally buy wholesale capacity and handle billing, except Virgin Mobile who operate much more of the core stack. (maybe due to customer numbers).
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...and these slow speeds on GG despite the fact they overhauled their whole network last week with new price schemes that were meant to deter heavy users. They've forced the majority of people onto 4G rather than 3G at the expense of data allowance. I myself had "unlimited" 3G for £15 a month along with texts and so many minutes of calls. Now I get a capped 4G connection and a huge bump in minutes that I'm never going to use.
The point of GG seems to have evaded them. It was an option that avoided getting a contract and you could get a bundle that best suited your needs - be it data, texting or calling preferences. Now it's basically a case of 'more of everything the more you pay', which is basically what any contract is going to offer you and with much less hinderance. I'm jumping ship, myself. Thinking of joining 3 as they offer an unlimited data contract for just £17 which is only a little more expensive than what I was paying, and it comes with numerous perks such as usage in other countries and better speeds as well. |
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Lyca is a very thick MVNO. They use their own sim cards (with their own number ranges) and HLRs. In many ways it's almost as if they are just roaming on the host network. In fact, I think if they wanted to move to a new host network, subscribers could retain their existing sims.
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Lyca is a very thick MVNO. They use their own sim cards (with their own number ranges) and HLRs. In many ways it's almost as if they are just roaming on the host network. In fact, I think if they wanted to move to a new host network, subscribers could retain their existing sims.
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How come Virgin SIMs work with EE femtos then.
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How come Virgin SIMs work with EE femtos then.
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