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Old 19-09-2015, 14:40
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Over the last few days why are all the characters treating the woman like she was a saint. They all seem to forget that Eric diddled a lot people. Eric cheated Pear and Len of their money. Val was responsible for Bob going to prison. Val did a lot of horrible things to people have forgiven her. It wasn't entirely Chrisie's fault, she didn't intentionally start the fire. But Val intentionally defrauded Brenda all because she wanted the shop sold and therefore make it easy for her and Eric to go on an expensive holiday.

Horrible woman, never liked her.
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Old 19-09-2015, 14:46
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Over the last few days why are all the characters treating the woman like she was a saint. They all seem to forget that Eric diddled a lot people. Eric cheated Pear and Len of their money. Val was responsible for Bob going to prison. Val did a lot of horrible things to people have forgiven her. It wasn't entirely Chrisie's fault, she didn't intentionally start the fire. But Val intentionally defrauded Brenda all because she wanted the shop sold and therefore make it easy for her and Eric to go on an expensive holiday.

Horrible woman, never liked her.
HIVile indeed.

NB. Chrissie did start the fire intentionally but she never realised what what happen.
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Old 19-09-2015, 14:53
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HIVile indeed.

NB. Chrissie did start the fire intentionally but she never realised what what happen.
What I meant was she intentionally wanted Robert to suffer by burning his car but like you say she didn't think it was cause chaos and spread else where.
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Old 19-09-2015, 14:54
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Over the last few days why are all the characters treating the woman like she was a saint. They all seem to forget that Eric diddled a lot people. Eric cheated Pear and Len of their money. Val was responsible for Bob going to prison. Val did a lot of horrible things to people have forgiven her. It wasn't entirely Chrisie's fault, she didn't intentionally start the fire. But Val intentionally defrauded Brenda all because she wanted the shop sold and therefore make it easy for her and Eric to go on an expensive holiday.

Horrible woman, never liked her.
Some people take soaps too seriously, it's fiction. Talking about it as if its real
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Old 19-09-2015, 15:02
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I can understand the bereaved people, who loved Ruby and ( for some mysterious reason Val) wanting Chrissie's blood. It's the likes of Priya and Doug who are being very judgemental if Chrissie IMO. OK I can see that Doug wants to support Diane, but the way he was talking about her in the pub, it was as if he really thought she was a murderer. I found Kerry' s reaction very over the top - anger is one thing, but implying that she meant to kill Ruby is quite another. Even Eric, in the state he's in realised that she hadn' intended it.

Although I thought it wasn't Rakesh's wisest move to help Chrissie, I LIKE that he genuinely believes in everyone having a right to a defence and he sticks to that.
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Old 19-09-2015, 15:06
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Chrissie is entitled to a lawyer regardless of who it is. It has nothing to do with Priya or David that she has the only lawyer in the village, Rakesh representing her . Some of the reaction was definitely OTT.
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Old 19-09-2015, 15:48
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Chrissie is entitled to a lawyer regardless of who it is. It has nothing to do with Priya or David that she has the only lawyer in the village, Rakesh representing her . Some of the reaction was definitely OTT.
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Old 19-09-2015, 20:26
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Half the people in the village are hypocrites!

Ok, Chrissie meant to cause the fire but only of the car, she had no idea what was going to happen. If her surname was Dingle then she wouldn't get half this much hatred.

I seem to remember Belle having an "accident" with her best friend now people act like nothing happened!
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Old 19-09-2015, 20:54
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Let us not forget when Val first arrived she was running away from a bloke she had diddled money from. Saint Val indeed!

I can understand those close to Ruby and Val lashing out and blaming Chrissie through grief, but as for the rest of the village blaming her they should butt out. Nearly everyone in that village has things to be guilty of. Not much of a Chrissie fan these days, but in her defence there is no way she could have forseen setting fire to Robert's car would have led to such a chain of events. The only thing she is really guilty of is arson, I wouldn't call what she did murder, at best involuntary manslaughter. As for Rakesh representing her, I doubt he cares what the village think as long as he gets paid.
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Old 20-09-2015, 00:06
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Over the last few days why are all the characters treating the woman like she was a saint. They all seem to forget that Eric diddled a lot people. Eric cheated Pear and Len of their money. Val was responsible for Bob going to prison. Val did a lot of horrible things to people have forgiven her. It wasn't entirely Chrisie's fault, she didn't intentionally start the fire. But Val intentionally defrauded Brenda all because she wanted the shop sold and therefore make it easy for her and Eric to go on an expensive holiday.

Horrible woman, never liked her.
BIB: Bob was responsible for Bob going to prison. He knowingly committed fraud which is a criminal offence. "If you can't do the time don't do the crime".
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Old 20-09-2015, 00:37
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You can bet your back teeth that If Val had caused the crash, accidentally killing people, Bollard would be wandering around red in the face from defending her, saying it was an unfortunate accident that wasn't her fault and fighting tooth and nail to stop we going to court.. That's if anyone found out of course, because selfish, self centered, egotistical, 'I'm never in the wrong' Val would never have admitted to it if she didn't have to, and if she was forced to she'd have tried to blame the helicopter for being in the wrong part of the sky. It certainly wouldn't have been her fault.
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Old 20-09-2015, 00:47
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Not a Val fan myself. A hateful, spiteful and self centred character.
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Old 20-09-2015, 00:50
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Vile character from the day she 1st arrived in ED
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Old 20-09-2015, 01:03
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Not a Val fan myself. A hateful, spiteful and self centred character.
Well described.
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Old 20-09-2015, 01:32
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Half the people in the village are hypocrites!

Ok, Chrissie meant to cause the fire but only of the car, she had no idea what was going to happen. If her surname was Dingle then she wouldn't get half this much hatred.

I seem to remember Belle having an "accident" with her best friend now people act like nothing happened!
Belle no more intended to kill than Chrissie did. Regardless if her surname.
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Old 20-09-2015, 04:02
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I did like Val but it has to be said she did some truly awful things; always playing the blame game, and her treatment of Diane in recent years was just horrid, and I always found it funny that when Diane and Eric had a drunken one night stand when he and Val were estranged she publicly humiliated both of them, particularly Diane, but seemingly forgot that she'd slept with Rodney when he was married to Diane, resulting in the birth of Paul. She was particularly vile to Alicia when she had her jailed, and I always find it amusing how they ended up getting along, and Val mentioned something about Alicia being great not long ago; she obviously didn't think that three years ago.
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Old 20-09-2015, 07:44
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The scenes outside the courtroom were ridiculous with half the village acting outraged that Chrissie had pleaded not guilty to reckless arson.

When Chrissie set fire to the car she couldn't have foreseen what it would lead to and she didn't intend for anyone to get hurt. The worst was Kerry calling her a 'cold blooded killer'... I mean get a bl**dy grip.

Eric is beginning to get on my nerves.
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Old 20-09-2015, 08:02
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This is all Eric's fault, if he hadn't have locked her in and sodded off getting drunk, then she would have been let out earlier and survived, cheesing me right off it is.

There is no one else to blame in this.
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Old 20-09-2015, 08:09
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You would've thought Diane would have more sense than to join in. Blaming Chrissie for Val's death is as ridiculous as when Eric was blaming her for it because she'd fallen out with Val and that was the reason they were locked up together.
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Old 20-09-2015, 08:20
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I don't see anyone treating Val as a saint really. Eric and Diane are devastated because she was important to them, with all her amazing faults. The rest - well you don't really speak ill of the dead, usually - she's already paid the highest price you can.

The ultimate responsibility for the fraud rests with Bob (and Carly) - and Bob's already been tried for it and had got his punishment. Val went along with it, sure, because she was daft and selfish and self-dramatizing, but as she's already dead, not much point in blaming her more.

I miss her - great character. Vile, but so funny.
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Old 20-09-2015, 11:27
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The script writers forget so many things. It would be nice to have continuity. OK Bob was foolish to go along with the fraud but how can any self respecting person commit fraud at their doorstep. She didn't even feel any remorse when Brenda found out. Also why does Eric go around blaming Diane.

I know its a soap and not real life but this is a soap discussion forum and people discuss soaps. I certainly enjoy Emmerdale and sometimes like to point out inconsistencies in the writing.
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Old 20-09-2015, 11:31
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The script writers forget so many things. It would be nice to have continuity. OK Bob was foolish to go along with the fraud but how can any self respecting person commit fraud at their doorstep. She didn't even feel any remorse when Brenda found out. Also why does Eric go around blaming Diane.

I know its a soap and not real life but this is a soap discussion forum and people discuss soaps. I certainly enjoy Emmerdale and sometimes like to point out inconsistencies in the writing.
I think Eric blames Diane because she let the firemen rescue her first, meaning Val got left behind when the mirrors collapsed. Though I've got to say, I am mighty tired of Eric blaming everyone else and taking no responsibility himself - he locked her in.
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Old 20-09-2015, 11:36
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I think Eric blames Diane because she let the firemen rescue her first, meaning Val got left behind when the mirrors collapsed. Though I've got to say, I am mighty tired of Eric blaming everyone else and taking no responsibility himself - he locked her in.

I too am finding Eric's behaviour very tedious. If I remember rightly the Eric was very hard hearted and this behaviour seems out of character IMO.
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Old 20-09-2015, 11:47
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I miss her - great character. Vile, but so funny.
Me too!
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