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Old 19-09-2015, 22:33
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Ive been on wikipedia lately, trying to ascertain family lineage of characters a bit further back.
I started watching around 95/6 and vaguely remember Sharongate and stories of that era, but I was only about 9/10, so I have been just reading up on how people are related, as its quite complex really with the Mitchells, Beales, Fowlers all being in someway interwoven etc

As I was reading away, I notice that Michelle and Grant had a child, but all this evades my memory, as I do remember Grant hitting Michelle and getting nicked, so how did all this come about? - Was there a reason he was named after Mark Fowler? Is Sharon aware of Mark Fowler JR? I assume he's in the USA with Michelle? How old would be be now? 19/20?

Perhaps he could come back and add to the diminishing Fowler leagacy, as all that's left is a 'New Martin' and a boring Sonia.
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Old 19-09-2015, 22:41
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Ive been on wikipedia lately, trying to ascertain family lineage of characters a bit further back.
I started watching around 95/6 and vaguely remember Sharongate and stories of that era, but I was only about 9/10, so I have been just reading up on how people are related, as its quite complex really with the Mitchells, Beales, Fowlers all being in someway interwoven etc

As I was reading away, I notice that Michelle and Grant had a child, but all this evades my memory, as I do remember Grant hitting Michelle and getting nicked, so how did all this come about? - Was there a reason he was named after Mark Fowler? Is Sharon aware of Mark Fowler JR? I assume he's in the USA with Michelle? How old would be be now? 19/20?

Perhaps he could come back and add to the diminishing Fowler leagacy, as all that's left is a 'New Martin' and a boring Sonia.
This must be EE biggest secret still but in order for this to happen they need Grant back on the Square most likely with Courtney too.

The only people who know about Mark Jnr true paternity are both dead - Pauline & Mark. I don't believe Sharon has any idea that Mark Jnr is Grant's Son.
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Old 19-09-2015, 23:01
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I would like to see him but I wonder if the myth has grown so big that he would be a let down.
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Old 19-09-2015, 23:12
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So there were two 'Whos the daddy' storylines involving michelle? Surely his paternity was questioned when Michelle became pregnant? Or did she escape to the States as soon as she found out?

How did those two sleeping together come about?
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Old 20-09-2015, 12:44
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So there were two 'Whos the daddy' storylines involving michelle? Surely his paternity was questioned when Michelle became pregnant? Or did she escape to the States as soon as she found out?

How did those two sleeping together come about?
Grant was the first one to find out about Marks HIV, Michelle went to the pub one night to tell Grant to keep his mouth shut about it, they had an argument got drunk then ended up s*******g, from what I remember anyway.
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Old 20-09-2015, 12:55
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I dont think this will ever happen as it has been speculated for years
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Old 20-09-2015, 12:57
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Grant was the first one to find out about Marks HIV, Michelle went to the pub one night to tell Grant to keep his mouth shut about it, they had an argument got drunk then ended up s*******g, from what I remember anyway.
This happened after Sharon left for the first time in 1995, when Michelle found out she was pregnant with Grant's baby she fled Walford with Vicki to America.
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Old 20-09-2015, 13:51
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This must be EE biggest secret still but in order for this to happen they need Grant back on the Square most likely with Courtney too.

The only people who know about Mark Jnr true paternity are both dead - Pauline & Mark. I don't believe Sharon has any idea that Mark Jnr is Grant's Son.
Martin also knows. It was Martin who told Pauline just before her death. If I remember rightly Michelle told Mark, Mark later told Martin and then Martin told Pauline. So with Mark and Pauline now dead the only people who know the truth are Michelle and Martin.
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Old 20-09-2015, 13:55
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It seems like such a wasted opportunity for a big storyline. Why make Grant the father of Muchelles baby if no old ever finds out?
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Old 20-09-2015, 14:03
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It seems like such a wasted opportunity for a big storyline. Why make Grant the father of Muchelles baby if no old ever finds out?
The thing is it would only work if Grant was on the Square, with Kathy returning and Sharon and Phil both cemented in the Square it's the perfect time.

DTC needs to make it one of his big priorities for 2016 to bring back Grant but first he needs to make that telephone call to Ross Kemp.
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Old 20-09-2015, 14:18
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Without Michelle and Grant there would be little drama in his arrival. Yes Sharon would be cross...but who with, without Michelle there. Phil might lift an eyebrow, but what then.

Then there is the big problem of the American accent and finding just the right actor for the part..
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Old 20-09-2015, 14:25
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Michelle will never return.
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Old 20-09-2015, 14:33
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A Mark Jnr & Courtney romance could bring about the secret especially if Martin knows.
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Old 20-09-2015, 14:35
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A Mark Jnr & Courtney romance could bring about the secret especially if Martin knows.
God how boring if it's left to Martin! Maybe some secrets are better left that way. Nothing more annoying in soap than being psyched up for a story reveal and it being a damp squib.
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Old 20-09-2015, 14:38
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God how boring if it's left to Martin! Maybe some secrets are better left that way. Nothing more annoying in soap than being psyched up for a story reveal and it being a damp squib.
EE need to rebuild the younger cast after the departures of Cindy, Liam & Lola so I like the idea of bringing in Mark Jnr & Courtney but yes Nu Martin is a wet blanket so far.
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Old 20-09-2015, 14:40
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Without Michelle and Grant there would be little drama in his arrival. Yes Sharon would be cross...but who with, without Michelle there. Phil might lift an eyebrow, but what then.

Then there is the big problem of the American accent and finding just the right actor for the part..
I agree you would need Michelle and grant back for the sl, and the big problem is Susan Tully won't come back because she doesn't act anymore, the only thing they could do that I can think of is re cast her, which would be very shaky.
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Old 20-09-2015, 14:41
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I agree you would need Michelle and grant back for the sl, and the big problem is Susan Tully won't come back because she doesn't act anymore, the only thing they could do that I can think of is re cast her, which would be very shaky.
I don't believe Michelle needs to be around for this reveal.
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Old 20-09-2015, 14:41
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God how boring if it's left to Martin! Maybe some secrets are better left that way. Nothing more annoying in soap than being psyched up for a story reveal and it being a damp squib.
I agree, like I said you would need Michelle and Grant back for the sl to work, otherwise it will be a non entity.
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Old 20-09-2015, 14:46
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I don't believe Michelle needs to be around for this reveal.
I think she would defiantly need to be around for the reveal otherwise it will have no impact, after all shes the one who never told Grant about his son shes the one whos kept Mark and Grant from knowing eachother for the past 20 years, and shes the one whos lied to her son all these years too.
Shes the one everyone is going to be angry at, Grant, Mark, the rest of the Mitchells, Sharon, without her there will be no impact.
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Old 20-09-2015, 15:20
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Mark Jr. was born around May/June 1996...Pauline announced it at The Vic not long after Arthur died and Mark told someone (I think it was Grant) that Michelle promised that if she had a son, then she would call it Mark...so, I think everyone knows of Mark Jr.'s existence, including Sharon, but Mark knew that Grant is Mark Jr.'s dad and I'm not too sure if Grant does.
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Old 20-09-2015, 15:23
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Grant has no idea that he has a son.
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Old 20-09-2015, 16:13
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EE need to rebuild the younger cast after the departures of Cindy, Liam & Lola so I like the idea of bringing in Mark Jnr & Courtney but yes Nu Martin is a wet blanket so far.
Can't disagree with you on that score.
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Old 20-09-2015, 16:14
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I think she would defiantly need to be around for the reveal otherwise it will have no impact, after all shes the one who never told Grant about his son shes the one whos kept Mark and Grant from knowing eachother for the past 20 years, and shes the one whos lied to her son all these years too.
Shes the one everyone is going to be angry at, Grant, Mark, the rest of the Mitchells, Sharon, without her there will be no impact.
Yes I agree. I'd rather they left it than do it half hearted.
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Old 20-09-2015, 16:32
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Michelle would be an easy recast she's been away that long it wouldn't be too in your face
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Old 20-09-2015, 16:48
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QUOTE=Jimmy Skitz;79711828]Michelle would be an easy recast she's been away that long it wouldn't be too in your face[/quote]

I don't think DTC would do it if I am honest.
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