I think James' decision was fine. I absolutely loathe Jenna. Who the fck does she think she is? Does she really believe she has this strong friendship with James? Deluded cow. James has always got on with Janice.Get over it dipstck.
I think we have the answer about James
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Originally Posted by Flowes:
“Chloe & Stevi would have saved Janice, it wasn't necessary for James to. He wasn't being unselfish., he was after the good guy vote. If he didn't want Farrah to be saved he could have voted Bobby. He'd get less flack for that decision too.”
“Chloe & Stevi would have saved Janice, it wasn't necessary for James to. He wasn't being unselfish., he was after the good guy vote. If he didn't want Farrah to be saved he could have voted Bobby. He'd get less flack for that decision too.”
I know he wasn't being "unselfish" that was his cover story. Good point about Bobby though.
I am 24hrs behind and watching last night's live feed at the moment and I don't see what James did wrong? Whether tactical or not isn't that kind of the point of the game? Every time they nominate there is a tactic behind it. This was just a spin on it.
Austin went in on him when Jenna was sat there and just now Austin went to talk to James like all was ok. Fair play to James for turning round and saying to Austin he needed some him time and he wasn't happy. I don't see how James is fake when he does call people out on their behaviour just not in an argumentative way?
Sorry but as you can tell I am still Team James.
Austin went in on him when Jenna was sat there and just now Austin went to talk to James like all was ok. Fair play to James for turning round and saying to Austin he needed some him time and he wasn't happy. I don't see how James is fake when he does call people out on their behaviour just not in an argumentative way?
Sorry but as you can tell I am still Team James.
Originally Posted by PrincessEssex:
“I am 24hrs behind and watching last night's live feed at the moment and I don't see what James did wrong? Whether tactical or not isn't that kind of the point of the game? Every time they nominate there is a tactic behind it. This was just a spin on it.
Austin went in on him when Jenna was sat there and just now Austin went to talk to James like all was ok. Fair play to James for turning round and saying to Austin he needed some him time and he wasn't happy. I don't see how James is fake when he does call people out on their behaviour just not in an argumentative way?
Sorry but as you can tell I am still Team James.”
“I am 24hrs behind and watching last night's live feed at the moment and I don't see what James did wrong? Whether tactical or not isn't that kind of the point of the game? Every time they nominate there is a tactic behind it. This was just a spin on it.
Austin went in on him when Jenna was sat there and just now Austin went to talk to James like all was ok. Fair play to James for turning round and saying to Austin he needed some him time and he wasn't happy. I don't see how James is fake when he does call people out on their behaviour just not in an argumentative way?
Sorry but as you can tell I am still Team James.”
The only thing he did wrong was not own his vote with his own reason which he tells the hm's on his team but doesn't tell his best "mates" in the house. He had the opportunity to manipulate the vote to get the result he wanted. And he took it, but now he's not owning it and he didn't last night. His good guy "mate" guy image is well and truly blown.
Originally Posted by Honeysmum:
“I must have been asleep during the HL's programmes this week as I have seen no evidence of a friendship between James and Jenna that would make him save her over Bobby (and if he hadn't chosen Janice I am sure he would have gone for Bobby).
I am confused
”
“I must have been asleep during the HL's programmes this week as I have seen no evidence of a friendship between James and Jenna that would make him save her over Bobby (and if he hadn't chosen Janice I am sure he would have gone for Bobby).
I am confused
”
It's obvious from tonight's highlights that Jenna and James are more friendly than we are being shown. Her shock at him not picking her, and him admitting he knew Jenna wouldn't be pleased speaks a lot. Also Janice said they both ( Jenna and James ) have night time chats together.
Originally Posted by benbeez1:
“I'm glad he saved Janice
”
“I'm glad he saved Janice
”
And stuffed Jenna and got rid of Farrah.
Go James.
Originally Posted by Cranberryapple:
“It's obvious from tonight's highlights that Jenna and James are more friendly than we are being shown. Her shock at him not picking her, and him admitting he knew Jenna wouldn't be pleased speaks a lot. Also Janice said they both ( Jenna and James ) have night time chats together.”
“It's obvious from tonight's highlights that Jenna and James are more friendly than we are being shown. Her shock at him not picking her, and him admitting he knew Jenna wouldn't be pleased speaks a lot. Also Janice said they both ( Jenna and James ) have night time chats together.”
Nope.
I don't think Jenna is close to him, I think she's been trying to GET close to him and he's been friendly enough, but Jenna can't understand that that doesn't mean James will do everything she wants and save her friend.
Or that he hasn't got the measure of her.
Jenna can't cope with people getting 'groomed' by her and not doing everything she wants. She's a deluded egoist.
He doesn't mind her, but doesn't take her seriously I think.
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I've said it several times today, I believe it was a tactical move but also that part of his reason is that, with Janice there, the rest of them don't have to bother mothering Chloe.
I do think he tactically chose Janice to look good too - but I don't object to that as they were put in a gameshow position, were going out live, it was the best opportunity (especially nearing the end) to sell yourself.”
“I've said it several times today, I believe it was a tactical move but also that part of his reason is that, with Janice there, the rest of them don't have to bother mothering Chloe.
I do think he tactically chose Janice to look good too - but I don't object to that as they were put in a gameshow position, were going out live, it was the best opportunity (especially nearing the end) to sell yourself.”
Yes I tHink it most definitely was a tactical move and I think that James has been playing a massive game all along, most people expected Natasha to save Sherrie, Chloe and Stevie to save Janice and definitely James to save Bobby and Austin to save Jenna, so there was no reason at all for James to save Janice and it was most definitely to make him look good! I have come to the conclusion that James is the most fake in the house this year and I can see why people are questioning him saving Janice!
But at the end of the day in this situation it was always going to be Jenna and Farrah in the bottom two with Farrah going. It would only have been different if the running order had been different and Austin had been selecting first as Natasha did and he would have still chosen Jenna and she would not have been in the bottom two!
Originally Posted by Grant_Gilmour:
“His story that Chloe needs support is garbage”
“His story that Chloe needs support is garbage”
I agree with this too !
I really, really like James, but his reason for nomination made no sense. I could understand it if Chlovi didn't have a pick, but they were going to pick next and it was obvious it was Janice. The whole thing about his granddad, while sweet, was totally irrelevant.
I also didn't agree with him when he was telling Austin about how Chloe was really struggling in there, she wasn't a strong person and needed the support. Her husband-to-be is in there with her!! She has more support than anyone. Just because she's vocal about her issues and struggles, it doesn't mean that they all don't find it difficult in there.
That was a little tactical play by James to make himself look like a kind and caring person. Which is a real shame because he's showed himself to be naturally kind and caring all along. Trying to be just came off as disingenuous. I still really, really like him though.
Jenna is starting to play him like a fiddle though. She's a very smart lady and she is doing exactly the right things and saying the right things that she thinks (and perhaps it will) will move her out of bottom 4 and into top 4.
I also didn't agree with him when he was telling Austin about how Chloe was really struggling in there, she wasn't a strong person and needed the support. Her husband-to-be is in there with her!! She has more support than anyone. Just because she's vocal about her issues and struggles, it doesn't mean that they all don't find it difficult in there.
That was a little tactical play by James to make himself look like a kind and caring person. Which is a real shame because he's showed himself to be naturally kind and caring all along. Trying to be just came off as disingenuous. I still really, really like him though.
Jenna is starting to play him like a fiddle though. She's a very smart lady and she is doing exactly the right things and saying the right things that she thinks (and perhaps it will) will move her out of bottom 4 and into top 4.
Originally Posted by ~V~:
“To me it was clear he chose Bobby over Farrah.
If he had picked Jenna then Chloe would have picked Janice and Austin would have picked Farrah.
If he had picked Bobby then his chums, who can't stand Bobby would have never let it go.
Yes, he played it clever, but not in the way Jwnna and Austin guessed”
“To me it was clear he chose Bobby over Farrah.
If he had picked Jenna then Chloe would have picked Janice and Austin would have picked Farrah.
If he had picked Bobby then his chums, who can't stand Bobby would have never let it go.
Yes, he played it clever, but not in the way Jwnna and Austin guessed”
Spot on. I'm glad Bobby was saved over Farrah as a result of James's voting.
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Nope.
I don't think Jenna is close to him, I think she's been trying to GET close to him and he's been friendly enough, but Jenna can't understand that that doesn't mean James will do everything she wants and save her friend.
Or that he hasn't got the measure of her.
Jenna can't cope with people getting 'groomed' by her and not doing everything she wants. She's a deluded egoist.
He doesn't mind her, but doesn't take her seriously I think.”
“Nope.
I don't think Jenna is close to him, I think she's been trying to GET close to him and he's been friendly enough, but Jenna can't understand that that doesn't mean James will do everything she wants and save her friend.
Or that he hasn't got the measure of her.
Jenna can't cope with people getting 'groomed' by her and not doing everything she wants. She's a deluded egoist.
He doesn't mind her, but doesn't take her seriously I think.”
Perfectly put!
He had about 20 seconds to make a decision after Natasha had picked the obvious choice.
It was hardly going to be a well thought-out scheme.
It was hardly going to be a well thought-out scheme.
Originally Posted by The Riddler:
“Everyone in the room knew that Chloe would have saved her. He didn't need to. It was clearly a passive aggressive way of getting Farrah out without getting the blame.
Clever but Jenna saw through it.”
“Everyone in the room knew that Chloe would have saved her. He didn't need to. It was clearly a passive aggressive way of getting Farrah out without getting the blame.
Clever but Jenna saw through it.”
Why in hell wouldn't he want Farrah out? She's treated him like garbage, insulted him, ridiculed and made fun of him constantly. Of course he would want her out.
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“The only thing he did wrong was not own his vote with his own reason which he tells the hm's on his team but doesn't tell his best "mates" in the house. He had the opportunity to manipulate the vote to get the result he wanted. And he took it, but now he's not owning it and he didn't last night. His good guy "mate" guy image is well and truly blown.”
“The only thing he did wrong was not own his vote with his own reason which he tells the hm's on his team but doesn't tell his best "mates" in the house. He had the opportunity to manipulate the vote to get the result he wanted. And he took it, but now he's not owning it and he didn't last night. His good guy "mate" guy image is well and truly blown.”
He's playing Austin and Jenna like a fiddle...........They're just too stupid to realise it !...
Originally Posted by blahblahblah57:
“Perfect reason for not picking Jenna then.”
“Perfect reason for not picking Jenna then.”
yes ... but he gave the bull**** reason about caring so much about "that poor vulnerable girl"
You know, the one that's already got her boyfriend in there with her
He was dishonest
Originally Posted by ShadowTillNow:
“Why in hell wouldn't he want Farrah out? She's treated him like garbage, insulted him, ridiculed and made fun of him constantly. Of course he would want her out.”
“Why in hell wouldn't he want Farrah out? She's treated him like garbage, insulted him, ridiculed and made fun of him constantly. Of course he would want her out.”
Why didn't he admit that then ?
Why make out it was all to do with that special person in his life who was called his grandfather ?
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“Why didn't he admit that then ?
Why make out it was all to do with that special person in his life who was called his grandfather ?”
“Why didn't he admit that then ?
Why make out it was all to do with that special person in his life who was called his grandfather ?”
Because few would. People just don't. Everyone wants to look the hero while serving themselves.
Originally Posted by roseblue1:
“So what....James can vote for who he wants.”
“So what....James can vote for who he wants.”
Yes he can. He is just lying through his teeth about the reasons for doing so.
Originally Posted by Honeysmum:
“I must have been asleep during the HL's programmes this week as I have seen no evidence of a friendship between James and Jenna that would make him save her over Bobby (and if he hadn't chosen Janice I am sure he would have gone for Bobby).
I am confused”
“I must have been asleep during the HL's programmes this week as I have seen no evidence of a friendship between James and Jenna that would make him save her over Bobby (and if he hadn't chosen Janice I am sure he would have gone for Bobby).
I am confused
”
the edit
(e.g. they have only shown james with austin so as to push that to the fore, he could be bezzy mates with jenna for all we know)
Originally Posted by BeanyBean:
“I think James' decision was fine. I absolutely loathe Jenna. Who the fck does she think she is? Does she really believe she has this strong friendship with James? Deluded cow. James has always got on with Janice.Get over it dipstck.”
“I think James' decision was fine. I absolutely loathe Jenna. Who the fck does she think she is? Does she really believe she has this strong friendship with James? Deluded cow. James has always got on with Janice.Get over it dipstck.”
Hit the nail on the head regards Jenna.....deluded!
I think it was inevitable that she would kick off at James for saving Janice, but found it shocking that she couldn't believe Stevie & Chloe would choose Bobby, out of a choice between her and Farrah......deluded, no self awareness, a sense of entitlement.....all describe Jenna to a tee!
Originally Posted by ~V~:
“To me it was clear he chose Bobby over Farrah.
If he had picked Jenna then Chloe would have picked Janice and Austin would have picked Farrah.
If he had picked Bobby then his chums, who can't stand Bobby would have never let it go.
Yes, he played it clever, but not in the way Jwnna and Austin guessed”
“To me it was clear he chose Bobby over Farrah.
If he had picked Jenna then Chloe would have picked Janice and Austin would have picked Farrah.
If he had picked Bobby then his chums, who can't stand Bobby would have never let it go.
Yes, he played it clever, but not in the way Jwnna and Austin guessed”
Exactly this, he said as much to Jenna.
Originally Posted by The Riddler:
“Everyone in the room knew that Chloe would have saved her. He didn't need to. It was clearly a passive aggressive way of getting Farrah out without getting the blame.
Clever but Jenna saw through it.”
“Everyone in the room knew that Chloe would have saved her. He didn't need to. It was clearly a passive aggressive way of getting Farrah out without getting the blame.
Clever but Jenna saw through it.”
It was disappointing, as I wanted James to win. He wasted a vote for a bs reason.
Originally Posted by The Riddler:
“Everyone in the room knew that Chloe would have saved her. He didn't need to. It was clearly a passive aggressive way of getting Farrah out without getting the blame.
Clever but Jenna saw through it.”
“Everyone in the room knew that Chloe would have saved her. He didn't need to. It was clearly a passive aggressive way of getting Farrah out without getting the blame.
Clever but Jenna saw through it.”
I like james but I agree with this.
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