Basically, and I don't blame him.

I dont have a problem with either really. As I posted earlier in the thread, he said he did it.
They also have to give stupid reasons for nominating and evicting all the time, so I dont have an issue really with him fibbing about why he picked Janice.

I do think it was two fold, to get rid of Farrah, but the claiming it was a selfless act for the dimwit statue was to make himself look good. As I said he admitted he did to get rid of Farrah.

Exactly. James has spent more time hanging out with Austin and Jenna in the series overall (and Janice with Steve and Chloe), but because he's heard the reaction that Farrah and Jenna have got from the crowd and also kept in mind they were sent to the secret room to be made fun of by public and house, he knew it would benefit him more to vote for someone that seemed more liked. You said yourself, picking Jenna would have made him look unpopular, and he knows it would have, so he did the very clever thing of voting the less unliked character (that has also survived eviction) to look better. James likes to think of himself as a clever businessman, so friendship won't get in his way on a gameshow where there is a winner title to be won.

Janice looked surprised to be saved, and is prob chuckling inside that James used her in his game with the excuse that he had, but prob has respect for him because she's playing her own. James can't be blind to this whole fragile Chloe act and must see that she and Steve are in on the biggest game in there (esp as her acting is letting it down).

Personally I don't overall mind James playing this tactical game as Big Brother is now a game, but it's just his reasoning about helping Chloe that is somewhat amusing and how selfless he was being, when it was mainly all just to make himself look good.

I still can't believe that him choosing Janice has spawned 7 different threads with over 3 pages of replies in most.]

Don't think I've ever seen something on BB blown up so out of proportion.

YOu know what it's like though, people see him as genuine then he shows that he also wants to win, we are British - that's now allowed

Oh but salv, you love talking about James.

What gets me with all of this speculation and questioning of motives is this:

Would anyone be still claiming James' principal reason behind all of this was to get rid of Farrah if he'd chosen Bobby?

Would anyone be remotely bothered about any of this if he'd chosen Bobby?

Would either Jenna or Farrah be even a small part of any discussion about this if James had chosen Bobby?

Bobby (in my mind) is the person that might have felt a little aggrieved by James' decision to save Janice (motives questionable but not indefensible). Not Farrah. Not Jenna.

However, put yourselves in James' shoes.
You have a decision to make - it involves A and B (neither of which is Farrah or Jenna, I may add ).
Neither decision will change the overall outcome as if you choose A, someone else will pick B and vice versa.
Therefore, you choose the person you think will do you the most good in the public vote.
You don't admit this to the house because
a) You're fairly popular there and you don't want to queer your pitch with the housemates (no pun intended)
and
b) You're a bit of a wussy gameplayer (nothing intrinsically wrong with this) and don't want to queer your pitch with the public by admitting it.

James (imo) made a decision (quickly) that he thought would do him the most good overall without actually altering anything. I can't blame him for that.

Why would anyone feel conned about someone playing a game in a game show?

Excellent analysis.

People, or at least people that think like me, were expecting James to pick bobby (or Jenna second), and then none of these discussions would have been happening. I've seen James talking lots to both bobby and Jenna (main show or live feed) and either of those two hms would have made perfect sense to me by James if the choice had been made regarding friendship.

But he chose Janice, a woman that he said on live feed that he wanted to go (that noms that scoop left). Chloe and Steve were also up for that vote, but if they had stayed, James then didn't express any bother about the possibility of Chloe remaining in the house without Janice. Then, he wanted her to go, but suddenly on this vote twist he decided that a grown woman that has her (fake) fiancée in there with her also needs a second support in there that has arguable only helped to make Chloe less independent in there. Janice has tried to smother Chloe not help her, how could James think that Chloe needs that.

If Bobby had been picked, then I wouldn't have even blinked an eye, and I would have understood him saving Jenna too, but not Janice, esp as at one point he was happy for her to go, even if Chloe was still in.

Austin is afraid of Jenna, he even said as much on tonight's Highlights. Yes he's manipulative, but like James he has no balls when it comes to Jenna. James did NOT want Farra to stay, so he made sure that it would be Farrah and Jenna as the last two, but there's no way he's going to tell Jenna that or she'd make his life hell for the last week, and I for one don't blame him.

I think people are just disappointed in James, there is playing the game but I think people thought that James was genuine and now they feel his nomination of Janice was just a massive con for him to look good and it was just too much! So people are now wondering if any of what he has done is for real in the house.

People that have watched "The Apprentice" are seeing a completely different James where he was so arrogant and nasty so now are wondering if he is just conning us all!

Hence why there are all these threads! No shock really!

BIB Totally agree.

Totally agree with this, plus James only said last week when he nominated Stevie and Chloe that he would not have nominated them if it had only been Stevie but it was basically Chloe he was nominating and then he saved Janice pretending he cares about Chloe! Yeah right!!!!!!!!!

I agree Bafar and now he is being shifty on CBB showing a completely different side ,how many sides has this fake got

I won't embarrass them by quoting them (can't be arsed to search ) but there are numerous posts on here swooning over James's looks. I think looks are definitely important especially when backed up by him being perceived as a gentleman which I also keep hearing.



2 great posts Miriam All I'll add is to agree Janice was surprised to be picked and in the diary room afterwards when she was talking about it she appeared to admit that she thought James would pick Jenna because of their late night intellectual conversations ()

I agree that James has in a sense played a blinder and good luck to him BUT he has also exposed himself by his choice and by his reasons for that choice.

Isn't The Apprentice, just as BB is, an edited reality show? They had one of his friends - a fellow contestant on The Apprentice - on BOTS the other night who lived with him during the show and obviously knows him a bit better than we do, he said we are seeing the real deal. Biased obviously, but I have no reason to doubt that most of what we see is them how they are generally, because I do not believe you can act 24/7 in an situation, especially one where you are living day-in day-out.

James, as with all the others, can be a nice person and play the game in a certain situations, I do not believe that they are mutually exclusive.

BB couldn't have made it any clearer on Friday that it's a game show. It was set up as a game show. It was live, a situation that shouted 'sell yourself' to the housemates.

I think the problem with some people is that they believed James was perfect, he's shown himself to be a flawed human and perhaps that's not what they wanted from him.

For me, he's proven himself time and again in situations in the house - calming (or attempting to calm) Austin, other housemates during conflict, I can't recall him shouting at anybody - he's been measured, friendly, had serious and funny conversations with people.

So now he's confronted with a situation where he can try and make himself look good - he didn't really have to do that but I can understand why he would, in some ways.

It's not about who he saved but his stupid reason why.

It is odd that people can like and defend Farrah despite her many unlikeable traits, that we can like Austin - I do, a lot - despite the fact that he's not perfect, but one or two hints at imperfection from James and suddenly he must have been faking it all the way through?

It makes no sense and I think it's what some people have been waiting for all along, one thing to pounce on so say 'see, he really was faking it all along, he's really a manipulative, game-playing liar and everything we've seen so far is a con' when all the evidence so far is to the contrary and he's really just a flawed person like the rest of us who took an opportunity to big himself up, stupidly

He really hasn't had much of an opportunity, or a necessity, to show his competitive side so far in the show, so perhaps it took some people by surprise that he does want to win. Really, though, do you (the general you, that is ) think anybody in there doesn't want to win?

Just as i predicted last night. People can see how popular he is so they are now coming up with over the top reasons to turn people against him. It happens every series.

There was never going to be a time when the argument was done. It was going round and round in circles because he wouldn't apologise for making his own uncoerced choice. I don't know how he keeps his cool so well in there, I could do with lessons.

Thanks this is exactly what I was going to say!

Well done James

Why all this fuss about why he chose Farrah to go? It was his decision to make, and nobody has had all this post-mortem flack about noms. She is a horrible person anyway and together with her partner-in-crime, ruined every party or bit of fun they had by taking offence at everything while plotting and spouting venom behind everyone's backs. Ding dong the witch is dead - can't wait for the other witches to go, Austin and Jenna that is.

He is such a crawler.

Yup, turning on each other..

I don't like him either, but agree it was a clever move. He has played a clever game throughout and as the best game player could win the game but he certainly is not the nicest.

He may be better looking than most in the house but I don't find him good looking. Unfortunately other than Austin there has not been another reasonable looking male in the house.