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Are the Americans too overpowering for the British celebs
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Penny Crayon
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“Exactly. I don't know why people keep watching if they dislike the Americans perhaps the Waltons would be a better watch for them.”

The Waltons are Americans.

I'm not sure why you keep saying this - it wasn't remotely relevant or amusing first time around and it certainly isn't amusing the sixth or seventh time.

There is something in between constant/arguing/shouting/confrontation and US 'celebs' showboating and people being boring you know.

I think a harmonious house with occasional 'organic' conflict is much better than people acting up for camera time. I don't mind the occasional 'interesting' US contestant but a house full of loud mouth show boaters isn't my cup of tea.
MACTOWIN
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“The Waltons are Americans.

I'm not sure why you keep saying this - it wasn't remotely relevant or amusing first time around and it certainly isn't amusing the sixth or seventh time.

There is something in between constant/arguing/shouting/confrontation and US 'celebs' showboating and people being boring you know.

I think a harmonious house with occasional 'organic' conflict is much better than people acting up for camera time. I don't mind the occasional 'interesting' US contestant but a house full of loud mouth show boaters isn't my cup of tea.”

I am sorry but I don't like a fake h/m that tries to keep himself in the House by constantly taking his shirt off and having a fake romance with another Guy because his first choice a Girl Knocked him back. Of course after that he was so bitter about getting knocked back that he did everything he could to get rid of her. You see we all like different thinks and that is the way the World goes around I don't like h/m's that go around looking like they are sucking Lemons I prefer ones that entertain like Jenna and Farrah.

As for the Waltons Comment I wont use it again as it seems to annoy you so much.
lynzee
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“Exactly. I don't know why people keep watching if they dislike the Americans perhaps the Waltons would be a better watch for them.”

Not the Waltons - it is an American television series about an American family.
MACTOWIN
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by lynzee:
“Not the Waltons - it is an American television series about an American family.”

I am sorry I am well aware who and where the Waltons are from I used to watch it.
cazziekay
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“Well this it.................and I had to think long and hard where to put it.
Couldn't think of anywhere so I'm sticking it here.

For my 11 000th post I just want to say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJmg-879j5o

Apologies ”

Congratulations. I am old enough to remember that show too.
lynzee
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“Your list of American traits I find offensive because I can point to British contestants with those exact same traits. There is NOTHING cultural about it whatsoever. It'd be like me saying all British celebrities are pompous, bitter, cruel, tea drinking, drunks who like to pull people's pants down and expose themselves.

The difference between the American contestants and the British ones is that the Americans treat it like a job ( which it is) and play it like a game and do what their employers tell them to. The British contestants treat it like a holiday or use it to get themselves back in the spotlight.”

Very well put. For the American celebs it is just another pay day, whereas for the British celebs it is an attempt to get back into the spotlight. It does not mean as much for a American Celeb to win because they ultimately will return to their life in the US as soon as their commitments to BB are over, whether they win or not. Whereas for a British celeb to win opens doors for him or her for more TV work in the UK.
lynzee
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I couldn't agree with you more. The thing is there is a sizeable minority on here (and in the viewing public at large) that seem to throw their support wholeheartedly behind absolutely any US contestant no matter how obnoxious. It's like they're awe struck or have simply grown up on a TV diet of crappy US reality stuff.

I have rarely heard or know anything about the US contestants but quite a few seem to know them inside out and yet know absolutely nothing about older 'home grown' UK celebrities.”

I agree too that CBB UK should be exactly that - UK celebrities. Up until this series I did know a lot more about the majority of the American celebrities than some of the UK celebrities but that is due to the fact that many of the past American celebrities were well known world wide, whereas some of the "home grown" UK celebrities have never been heard of outside of the UK. Admittedly in this series I knew nothing about Jenna Jameson, Farrah or Austin. Obviously I knew a fair bit about Janice as she is also known world wide, and the same goes for Daniel Baldwin and Fatman Scoop.

Sherrie I know from LW but she is probably completely unknown outside of the UK, Bobby is likely also only known in the UK. James I had never heard if as I have not watched the Apprentice for ages, never heard of Chris Ellison or Gail Porter and very much doubt that they are known outside of the UK either.
DiamondDoll
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by cazziekay:
“Congratulations. I am old enough to remember that show too. ”

*mwah* *mwah*
Vesna
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by lynzee:
“Not the Waltons - it is an American television series about an American family.”

No not the Waltons... The Royle Family would be more appropriate. A bunch of overweight, under achievers, who sit about watching tv. Filmed in one room furnished with a chair settee and tv...
Vesna
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by lynzee:
“Very well put. For the American celebs it is just another pay day, whereas for the British celebs it is an attempt to get back into the spotlight. It does not mean as much for a American Celeb to win because they ultimately will return to their life in the US as soon as their commitments to BB are over, whether they win or not. Whereas for a British celeb to win opens doors for him or her for more TV work in the UK.”

And then only for those who have product to sell ready to go or a tour already booked. Even then they usually drop back off the face of the earth shortly after.

For instance what does James do that could possibly benefit from his appearance? I can't think of any. Has Bobby booked a tour for after the show like Jim Davidson and Julian Clary did? Does Natasha have a record ready to go like the pretty yet boring (so boring I can't think of his name) guy from the regular series? Did Denise reap any rewards that can be quantified from winning? Other than more tacky articles about her drinking, cheating on her husband etc...
Darcyprincess
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by roseblue1:
“I have lived in the US and return often my daughter is American...so I have a good idea about Americans.

It is not that the British are bores it is the fact that there is a big culture difference between us.

Americans love to air there dirty washing in public...the Americans fight amongst themselves.

The Americans are very loud and love the sound of there own voices and they also have to be the centre of attention.

The Americans will fight to the death to get the most attention and air time.

Because the Brits are not doing this does not mean they are boring...they are sitting back and watching the comedy show in front of them...they have no need to play to the cameras the Americans are doing it for them.

Do not get me wrong I love America and it's people...but I am also glad to return home again to the world of sanity.”

I could not agree more, everything you have said I agree 100%. Gobby, loud mouth Americans that have to be constantly heard and shouts for air time. So sick of their constant attention seeking! Give me the BRITS down to earth and laid back characters any day!
this_THAT
20-09-2015
i bet usa bb is never boring... they are lucky
grayflower
20-09-2015
I think that most of the Americans they've selected have been horrendously loud, shouty, dominating, aggressive and bullish. Likewise, most of the Brits they've chosen are not like this. Unfortunately, much of the time when we have mouthy Brits, they're usually vile in character e.g. Katie Hopkins, Helen Wood, Pete Burns etc.

Basically, they choose a lot of American bully types, and fewer Brit bully types in the same year's show. Although, I'm not sure our nerves could deal with three American and three bully types all at the same time. It would be murder.

I'd prefer some HMs who are articulate, funny and witty, who can argue and debate without having to scream at the top of their lungs, or have two or more people shouting at one person etc. I ask too much. I know.
Dix
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by this_THAT:
“i think we should go all american hms next year, great to watch”


Then it couldn't be UKCBB, and the viewers would have to be told at the outset, that there will be no UKHMs until BB sees fit to add them in.
Vesna
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“I could not agree more, everything you have said I agree 100%. Gobby, loud mouth Americans that have to be constantly heard and shouts for air time. So sick of their constant attention seeking! Give me the BRITS down to earth and laid back characters any day!”

Sorry I have to laugh as when I think of the BRITS who have been on CBB I think of Charlotte Crosby, Jim Davidson, James Jordan, Dee White, Denise Welch. You know all those down to earth laid back characters...

And then I think of Jermaine Jackson, Jackie Stallone and Scoop and think what are they talking about?

There are all types of CBB hm's from both sides of the pond.
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