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Old 20-09-2015, 17:11
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So after Natasha suggested that James moved beds he responded with "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer". So James is playing Austin? If so you can call me another former James fan. I've met James before and he was great, so I automatically voted to save him when I could. But these past few days have put me off of him.
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Old 20-09-2015, 17:19
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So after Natasha suggested that James moved beds he responded with "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer". So James is playing Austin? If so you can call me another former James fan. I've met James before and he was great, so I automatically voted to save him when I could. But these past few days have put me off of him.
Interesting if this will be shown on the highlights as it does put a different spin on things sadly, this is coming from a big Austin and James fan, i love(or loved) their bromance together...
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Old 20-09-2015, 17:22
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Interesting if this will be shown on the highlights as it does put a different spin on things sadly, this is coming from a big Austin and James fan, i love(or loved) their bromance together...
It is on the HL tonight, the quote has come from the HL spoilers.

Having read the spoilers, I think the quote in context isn't such a big deal, really.
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Old 20-09-2015, 17:24
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It is on the HL tonight, the quote has come from the HL spoilers.

Having read the spoilers, I think the quote in context isn't such a big deal, really.
Well to say they are meant to be "close" is he saying Austin really is his enemy then as those two are/were certainly close...
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Old 20-09-2015, 17:27
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It is on the HL tonight, the quote has come from the HL spoilers.

Having read the spoilers, I think the quote in context isn't such a big deal, really.
I'v not read this quote anywhere it sounds like he's employing a strategy of staying close to people he's in competition with. I'm wondering what context could shine a different light on it or is that pretty much it.
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Old 20-09-2015, 17:29
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I'v not read this quote anywhere it sounds like he's employing a strategy of staying close to people he's in competition with. I'm wondering what context could shine a different light on it or is that pretty much it.
Why don't you just read the HL spoilers or wait and watch the show, to then form an opinion?
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Old 20-09-2015, 17:29
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Why don't you just read the HL spoilers or wait and watch the show, to then form an opinion?
Because i wanted your opinion, specifically.
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Old 20-09-2015, 17:36
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To be honest, I think he's just a bit peed off. I do think he likes Austin, it's not part of an elaborate game plan. I do think there is a little bit of James that thinks that Austin's actions will make them both look bad and doesn't want to be tarred with that brush. Ultimately though, I think they do have an understanding of each other and maybe that's why they can get to the other so easily. There is a reason why they've spent so much time together, to the point that they share baths and beds everyday. As much as it seems that James is trying to disintegrate the friendship, I just think he's saving face a bit.

I think they're both hurt a bit by the others actions/comments. Hopefully they'll pick themselves back up and not fall out over it for too long.
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Old 20-09-2015, 17:48
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IMO he will get away with anything as he is good looking.
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Old 20-09-2015, 17:51
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Because i wanted your opinion, specifically.
You've had it!

I'm not going to write out the entire HL spoilers! I've no doubt you may see it another way which is why I suggested you look into the context yourself, particularly as you forming an opinion off the back of my opinion would be ridiculous. Pretty simple.

IMO he will get away with anything as he is good looking.
You keep saying this but the only people I ever see that mention James' appearance are the posters who dislike him and use it as a reason to find him fake etc.

I think it's a lazy argument, personally.
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Old 20-09-2015, 17:52
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IMO he will get away with anything as he is good looking.
OMG, your not allowed to say that on a forum where hetro males are in a minority.
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Old 20-09-2015, 17:57
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I don't think CBB has any real friendships and I think James shares my view.
I see it much more as alliances.
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Old 20-09-2015, 17:57
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You've had it!

I'm not going to write out the entire HL spoilers! I've no doubt you may see it another way which is why I suggested you look into the context yourself, particularly as you forming an opinion off the back of my opinion would be ridiculous. Pretty simple.
You've said: based on the context "it's not a big deal, really" I take it you're not willing to share your opinion on the context and how it effects your opinion. That's fine.
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Old 20-09-2015, 18:05
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You've said: based on the context "it's not a big deal, really" I take it you're not willing to share your opinion on the context and how it effects your opinion. That's fine.
Not at all.

I do object to posters obviously attempting to challenge my opinion with an opposing view without actually reading/viewing the context to inform their opposing view first, though.
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Old 20-09-2015, 18:05
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You keep saying this but the only people I ever see that mention James' appearance are the posters who dislike him and use it as a reason to find him fake etc.

I think it's a lazy argument, personally.[/quote]

As if people are going to admit they like him because he is good looking. He is a complete bore who thinks it is ok to let another Man to blow in his here to gain some votes. Pathetic individual imo.
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Old 20-09-2015, 18:06
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OMG, your not allowed to say that on a forum where hetro males are in a minority.
It is ok I had a bravery tablet.
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Old 20-09-2015, 18:17
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IMO he will get away with anything as he is good looking.
It's getting old now.

You make it sound that good looking people make it far in BB. I need to introduce you to reality. Why don't you look back at BB1-BB16, CBB1-CBB15 to find that many of the people who have won have not been traditionally good looking, out of the ones that were, they were mainly women. So, can we assume that men and lesbians voted Kate BB3, Rachel BB9 and Sophie BB10? Please

Refresh my mind, what "good looking male" has ever won? Can we all remember how badly some men have done. I remember during CBB11, Sam (yes, who?) was considered on this forum as the best looking male on CBB ever. And he was evicted 2nd against Ryan (from Neighbours).

Looks literally means nothing. And how many times do I have to divert you all Twitter and you can see for yourself, his support is not about looking. In fact 95% or more of what I see everywhere is due to him as a person. Go on it and check!
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Old 20-09-2015, 18:29
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Not at all.

I do object to posters obviously attempting to challenge my opinion with an opposing view without actually reading/viewing the context to inform their opposing view first, though.
I have no view of the context, iv not read it, you know that. I have an initial impression of the comment but it may well change after seeing the context. My impression is that he's employing a strategy i.e to keep his enemies closest of all.

I asked for your specific impression of the context because i wanted to see if it seemed relevant to your overall opinion i.e "it's no big deal, really"

Is the context relevant to your opinion? Why are you objecting here
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Old 20-09-2015, 18:35
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It's getting old now.

You make it sound that good looking people make it far in BB. I need to introduce you to reality. Why don't you look back at BB1-BB16, CBB1-CBB15 to find that many of the people who have won have not been traditionally good looking, out of the ones that were, they were mainly women. So, can we assume that men and lesbians voted Kate BB3, Rachel BB9 and Sophie BB10? Please

Refresh my mind, what "good looking male" has ever won? Can we all remember how badly some men have done. I remember during CBB11, Sam (yes, who?) was considered on this forum as the best looking male on CBB ever. And he was evicted 2nd against Ryan (from Neighbours).

Looks literally means nothing. And how many times do I have to divert you all Twitter and you can see for yourself, his support is not about looking. In fact 95% or more of what I see everywhere is due to him as a person. Go on it and check!
I said IMO and I mean IMO and I will continue to post my opinions until I am told I am not allowed to. I have been on here long enough to know what goes on and I will make my judgements based on what I believe. As if people are going to admit they are shallow.
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Old 20-09-2015, 18:39
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I have no view of the context, iv not read it, you know that. I have an initial impression of the comment but it may well change after seeing the context. My impression is that he's employing a strategy i.e to keep his enemies closest of all.

I asked for your specific impression of the context because i wanted to see if it seemed relevant to your overall opinion i.e "it's no big deal, really"

Is the context relevant to your opinion? Why are you objecting here
Considering I stated "I think the quote in context isn't such a big deal", it's pretty obvious that the context is relevant to my opinion. So why would you doubt that and ask for clarification?

I think that shows you either think I'm incredibly stupid, or you were deliberately attempting to argue me down without making your own opinion first. Either way, I'm not interested in playing
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Old 20-09-2015, 18:48
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It's getting old now.

You make it sound that good looking people make it far in BB. I need to introduce you to reality. Why don't you look back at BB1-BB16, CBB1-CBB15 to find that many of the people who have won have not been traditionally good looking, out of the ones that were, they were mainly women. So, can we assume that men and lesbians voted Kate BB3, Rachel BB9 and Sophie BB10? Please

Refresh my mind, what "good looking male" has ever won? Can we all remember how badly some men have done. I remember during CBB11, Sam (yes, who?) was considered on this forum as the best looking male on CBB ever. And he was evicted 2nd against Ryan (from Neighbours).

Looks literally means nothing. And how many times do I have to divert you all Twitter and you can see for yourself, his support is not about looking. In fact 95% or more of what I see everywhere is due to him as a person. Go on it and check!
Good looking Males get a bonus for being good looking and it's perfectly natural for it to be that way, yet it is unfair in a game situation. It's not the only relevant factor though, hence why the bib is flawed.

There have been many good looking Male winners. Most winners are Male. It's a silly argument to pretend "looks literally mean nothing"
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Old 20-09-2015, 19:02
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You've had it!

I'm not going to write out the entire HL spoilers! I've no doubt you may see it another way which is why I suggested you look into the context yourself, particularly as you forming an opinion off the back of my opinion would be ridiculous. Pretty simple.



You keep saying this but the only people I ever see that mention James' appearance are the posters who dislike him and use it as a reason to find him fake etc.

I think it's a lazy argument, personally.
I think a lot of the men on here are jealous of him.
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Old 20-09-2015, 19:04
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Good looking Males get a bonus for being good looking and it's perfectly natural for it to be that way, yet it is unfair in a game situation. It's not the only relevant factor though, hence why the bib is flawed.

There have been many good looking Male winners. Most winners are Male. It's a silly argument to pretend "looks literally mean nothing"

Why is it 'natural'? I don't care how anyone looks, it's not relevant to me.

I only judge on personality.
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Old 20-09-2015, 19:08
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Good looking Males get a bonus for being good looking and it's perfectly natural for it to be that way, yet it is unfair in a game situation. It's not the only relevant factor though, hence why the bib is flawed.

There have been many good looking Male winners. Most winners are Male. It's a silly argument to pretend "looks literally mean nothing"
What good looking males have there been? Am I missing something? The only male winners who were considered good looking by people on the outside at the time of the series was Anthony and Aaron.

Craig, Brian D, Cameron, Pete, Brian B, Luke A, Sam, Jack Dee, Mark Owen, Bez, Alex Reid, Paddy, Julian, Rylan, Jim, Gary.

What stunners they are None of these are the traditional good looking HM.

I judge on the person.
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Old 20-09-2015, 19:08
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Considering I stated "I think the quote in context isn't such a big deal", it's pretty obvious that the context is relevant to my opinion. So why would you doubt that and ask for clarification?
You are indeed making it clear that your opinion is based on context, however you wont divulge your impressions of it. Only "it's not such a big deal, really" I want to know how you've reached that conclusion is all.

I think that shows you either think I'm incredibly stupid, or you were deliberately attempting to argue me down without making your own opinion first. Either way, I'm not interested in playing
I think what your eluding to here is that because iv inquired as to the way you've reached your conclusion, you've gotten a tad defensive and perhaps your wondering if i think your conclusion is based on blind support of James rather than context. I am wondering that. I'd love to hear your impressions on the context so i can make my mind up, alas, maybe another time.
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