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Old 20-09-2015, 22:21
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Yes she did, Austin and the others never picked up on that one though because it's Jenna and they are all frit.
Shame someone doesn't pip up and say it. But it's highly unlikely.

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Old 20-09-2015, 22:22
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Austin's the only one to call her on her antics, and they are antics. Such as right at the end of the show when James and Austin were having an argument and she just came and sat down right next to them. She cannot be unaware of what she does.
Yes! Finally, somebody else who sees Janice for what she is.
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Old 20-09-2015, 22:27
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Team Austin here. I know he swears & shouts a lot but come on, put yourself in his shoes & imagine how you would feel if Janice did that to you & you lost your letter from home as a result. She did NOT do her best with that task - all she had to do with stay standing. I don't blame Austin one bit for erupting. Janice is annoying & selfish & she makes it worse by continuing to say sorry over & over again. The woman doesn't know when to just shut up & get on with it. Infuriating.
I agree with all that BUT it does not make it right to speak to a woman in her sixties like that. That was the point James was making, that he understood how he felt but did not agree with the way he speaks to people. Austin is a rude bully boy who has no manners. The way he snatched that letter out of Janices hand was aggressive and he needs to lose the petulant attitude or get out.
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Old 20-09-2015, 22:29
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I agree with all that BUT it does not make it right to speak to a woman in her sixties like that. That was the point James was making, that he understood how he felt but did not agree with the way he speaks to people. Austin is a rude bully boy who has no manners. The way he snatched that letter out of Janices hand was aggressive and he needs to lose the petulant attitude or get out.
What about Janice throwing the letter at him and starting the agression in that situation?
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Old 20-09-2015, 22:31
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Austin's the only one to call her on her antics, and they are antics. Such as right at the end of the show when James and Austin were having an argument and she just came and sat down right next to them. She cannot be unaware of what she does.
Austin FALLS FOR IT, she winds him up and off he goes.

He's a fool about Janice, he doesn't think he can possibly be being played and he is, very successfully, also by Jenna.

I am disappointed in him.
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Old 20-09-2015, 22:38
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I agree with all that BUT it does not make it right to speak to a woman in her sixties like that. That was the point James was making, that he understood how he felt but did not agree with the way he speaks to people. Austin is a rude bully boy who has no manners. The way he snatched that letter out of Janices hand was aggressive and he needs to lose the petulant attitude or get out.
BIB 1: I keep seeing this and really don't get it. What does her age matter If she's being a dick then she's being a dick and deserves whatever she gets.

BIB 2: So did you not see Janice throw the letter at him Or is she allowed because she is in her sixties
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Old 20-09-2015, 22:38
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I agree with all that BUT it does not make it right to speak to a woman in her sixties like that. That was the point James was making, that he understood how he felt but did not agree with the way he speaks to people. Austin is a rude bully boy who has no manners. The way he snatched that letter out of Janices hand was aggressive and he needs to lose the petulant attitude or get out.
Any adult should have the common sense to know when it's best to keep your mouth shut. Janice made a big mistake jumping off the stone & the reason Austin got so mad is because he knew his letter was gone because of her actions - who else was she going to pick to lose their letter? Secondly, she made it worse by continuing to apologise for it & going on about trying her best when it was clear for all to see that she didn't try her best. She was just making him even more angry. If she really wanted to apologise to him then she should have waited for a while until he had calmed down a bit, but to keep on at him while he was on the stone was just stupid. And thirdly, yes she is in her sixties but she's not a stupid old lady - she's very with it when she wants to be. The way she threw Austin's letter at him was just another nail in the coffin for Janice.

I'm not denying that Austin is coming across badly but I can understand his frustration & his anger because Janice is infuriating. She's pushing his buttons.
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Old 20-09-2015, 22:53
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A load of morons are dressed up in sacks, told the world has ended and are ordered to stand on plastic rocks for an inordinate amount of time without moving or they won't get to read a letter later.... One of them gets off the rock and another one shouts at her.

I don't really have a point to contribute to this discussion.
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Old 20-09-2015, 23:06
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Januce is an attention whore.
She stepped off the rock on purpose.
When Austin called her the c word in the dr, i totally agreed.
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Old 20-09-2015, 23:22
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Januce is an attention whore.
She stepped off the rock on purpose.
When Austin called her the c word in the dr, i totally agreed.
Vile word.
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Old 20-09-2015, 23:47
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BIB 1: I keep seeing this and really don't get it. What does her age matter If she's being a dick then she's being a dick and deserves whatever she gets.

BIB 2: So did you not see Janice throw the letter at him Or is she allowed because she is in her sixties
re your first point, if that's true, then why is respect for your elders a universally accepted code of conduct in any civilised society? It's not 'respect your elders (but only the ones you like)'
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Old 20-09-2015, 23:50
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re your first point, if that's true, then why is respect for your elders a universally accepted code of conduct in any civilised society? It's not 'respect your elders (but only the ones you like)'
It's refreshing to see someone with manners. You've been taught well Grasshopper. Well done Funboy.



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Old 20-09-2015, 23:53
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re your first point, if that's true, then why is respect for your elders a universally accepted code of conduct in any civilised society? It's not 'respect your elders (but only the ones you like)'
I think what he meant is that just because somebody is older than you, doesn't mean that they have a free pass to behave any way they want, especially if that behaviour is disrespectful. People (of all ages) have to earn respect. Yes, it's important to respect your elders - we were all taught that growing up - but if the elder person deliberately fails a task, then riles somebody by going on & on about how sorry they are and then goes on to throw your letter from home at your feet - sorry, that person has lost the right to any respect.

Janice Dickinson has always been outspoken & controversial. To my knowledge, she is playing with a full deck of cards, so why should she be treated any differently? You don't see Sherrie behaving like Janice & she's five years older than her. So the age thing doesn't matter. It's the person on the inside that counts. Janice is no angel so even though Austin is being aggressive, I don't feel sorry for her because she has brought all of this on herself.

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Old 20-09-2015, 23:54
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glad Queen Janice picked him, yet Austin is surprised she did
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Old 20-09-2015, 23:55
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What about Janice throwing the letter at him and starting the agression in that situation?
it was him who started it by telling her to shush over and over.
as soon as he started doing that, you saw a glint in Janice eye that said 'right that's it iv had enough of you' and that's when she jumped up and chose Austin.
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Old 20-09-2015, 23:57
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Team Austin here. I know he swears & shouts a lot but come on, put yourself in his shoes & imagine how you would feel if Janice did that to you & you lost your letter from home as a result. She did NOT do her best with that task - all she had to do with stay standing. I don't blame Austin one bit for erupting. Janice is annoying & selfish & she makes it worse by continuing to say sorry over & over again. The woman doesn't know when to just shut up & get on with it. Infuriating.



Totally agree. She's playing everyone, and she's not the slightest bit sorry. A master manipulator.
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Old 21-09-2015, 00:00
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Didn't Jenna initially say 'I think someone should do it' or words to that effect. That's when Janice hopped off the stone.

Yes she did. And after Janice did it she was in agreement with most of the others that it was no big deal.
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Old 21-09-2015, 00:01
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re your first point, if that's true, then why is respect for your elders a universally accepted code of conduct in any civilised society? It's not 'respect your elders (but only the ones you like)'


I think there's a difference between unconditional respect, and respect that is earned.
I know which one makes more sense to me.
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Old 21-09-2015, 00:07
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Yes she did. And after Janice did it she was in agreement with most of the others that it was no big deal.
Jenna is a sly one. I don't care for her one tiny bit.

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Old 21-09-2015, 00:09
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I think there's a difference between unconditional respect, and respect that is earned.
I know which one makes more sense to me.
I think there's a base level of respect that should be given to everyone, no matter how unpalatable you find that person to be. By all means have it out with people you have issues with, but there is a way to go about it,

I do give older people more patience and benefit of the doubt. There are generational differences to take into account. And the way he snatched the letter from her hand, to be physically aggressive/ intimidating like that was just over the line imo.
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Old 21-09-2015, 00:12
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it was him who started it by telling her to shush over and over.
as soon as he started doing that, you saw a glint in Janice eye that said 'right that's it iv had enough of you' and that's when she jumped up and chose Austin.
He was telling Bobby to shush though because he wouldn't stop talking when BB told them to or they all be punished. Janice might have mistakenly though that it was aimed at her but it clearly showed that it was aimed at Bobby.
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Old 21-09-2015, 00:15
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I think there's a base level of respect that should be given to everyone, no matter how unpalatable you find that person to be. By all means have it out with people you have issues with, but there is a way to go about it,

I do give older people more patience and benefit of the doubt. There are generational differences to take into account. And the way he snatched the letter from her hand, to be physically aggressive/ intimidating like that was just over the line imo.
But what about the way she threw the letter at his feet first? Why is that ok? It's not, and it's the reason he reacted the way he did. She didn't make any effort with that task & she was never going to pick anyone else to lose their letter except Austin - that's why he got annoyed with her in the first place - he knew as soon as she stepped off that rock that his letter was gone. Then she kept going on about being sorry over & over again even though she could see that he was angry - she should have had the sense to stay away from him for a while - that's what normal people in the real world do. You don't add fuel to a fire. And going on about how she tried her best with the task when she clearly didn't. If you think that you could keep your cool if you were on the receiving end of all of that, then you're a much calmer person than I am.

Like I said before, you don't see Sherrie behaving that way & riling/provoking people - and she's five years older than Janice. Janice is not as innocent as people on here are making her out to be, and to use the age card is an insult to people of the same age who wouldn't dream of behaving like she does.
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Old 21-09-2015, 00:19
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BIB 1: I keep seeing this and really don't get it. What does her age matter If she's being a dick then she's being a dick and deserves whatever she gets.

BIB 2: So did you not see Janice throw the letter at him Or is she allowed because she is in her sixties
I don’t get it either If you’re in your sixties does that mean you can say what you want and behave how you want but everyone else has to show you respect?
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Old 21-09-2015, 00:23
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re your first point, if that's true, then why is respect for your elders a universally accepted code of conduct in any civilised society? It's not 'respect your elders (but only the ones you like)'
I think it was a universally accepted code when elders deserved respect but the world has changed....I see people in their sixties behaving worse than teenagers these days
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Old 21-09-2015, 00:25
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I don’t get it either If you’re in your sixties does that mean you can say what you want and behave how you want but everyone else has to show you respect?
Not at all. I think the point some of us are making is that if you have a problem with someone whatever their age, there are better ways of telling them than the way Austin goes about it. He's just being plain nasty which isn't necessary.

If I have a problem with someone I don't speak to them in the manner in which Austin speaks to Janice, which imo is too aggressive and spiteful.

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