My best guess is :
Janice & Bobby
Janice
Bobby with a chance of it being James
Jenna
Jenna
Austin
Austin
Austin
Janice & Bobby
Janice
Bobby with a chance of it being James
Jenna
Jenna
Austin
Austin
Austin
James nominated Austin
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Originally Posted by diesels hummin:
“The self-righteous bullsh"t with which James is going to attempt to justify this is going to be difficult to bear.”
“The self-righteous bullsh"t with which James is going to attempt to justify this is going to be difficult to bear.”
Yep, he's the biggest spoofer and BS merchant in there.
Whenever anyone tries to pull him up on his BS, he gets up and walks away saying "I'm not discussing this with you anymore".
Austin is an empty head, with an empty life. He fills it with self-righteous shouting. James runs several businesses, and is used to taking account of others feelings. Once he has expressed his opinion he feels no need to endlessly repeat it until such time as Austin gets bored with shouting. Austin (the spoilt brat) leaves no room for compromise. He is a tit.
Originally Posted by wildpark:
“Austin is an empty head, with an empty life. He fills it with self-righteous shouting. James runs several businesses, and is used to taking account of others feelings. Once he has expressed his opinion he feels no need to endlessly repeat it until such time as Austin gets bored with shouting. Austin who makes his money as a reality star leaves no room for compromise. He is a tit.”
“Austin is an empty head, with an empty life. He fills it with self-righteous shouting. James runs several businesses, and is used to taking account of others feelings. Once he has expressed his opinion he feels no need to endlessly repeat it until such time as Austin gets bored with shouting. Austin who makes his money as a reality star leaves no room for compromise. He is a tit.”
oh come off it ... if James was some hot-shot successful entrepreneur running 'several businesses' he wouldn't be on Big Brother
None of which has anything at all to do with him stabbing his mate in the back
Who said he is a "hot shot"? I said James runs several business and so has a much greater understanding of people management than Austin, who I get the impression (from his behaviour) has never worked for anybody in his life.
Austin deserved to get nominated. If James employed him he would have fired him.
Austin deserved to get nominated. If James employed him he would have fired him.
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“James: Used Car Salesman.”
“James: Used Car Salesman.”
To expand, I posted earlier this evening about how James was now kicking Austin to the kerb now that he's got everything he could out of him. I didn't expect it to be confirmed quite so conclusively quite so quickly.
The bromance served him well and was always going to benefit James more than Austin, But now he's positioned nicely for the final he's more than happy to let Austin struggle and show himself up to be rather too emotional and somewhat immature. It helps, of course, to ease Austin into his meltdown by pulling the friendship-rug out from beneath him, distancing himself with full awareness it's going to leave Austin floundering without anyone else to turn to other than the equally as duplicitous Jenna.
Meanwhile James gets to act all high and mighty. He gets lots of little opportunities to deliver vote-winning speeches about how he's needed mentors in his life, how lovely his grandfather is/was, how he treats everyone with respect (presumably discounting the men he assaulted in that pub) and just smother us all with his lovely fuzzy-wuzzy humility. Hey everyone, he's grown out of Austin now (that he's helped initiate his meltdown), there's your winner folks!
I liked James early on. I thought he seemed measured and a decent sort and the bromance was fun. But the last few days has shown he's really ruthless and more of a gameplayer than anyone I can quite remember in any recent series, quite prepared to throw his friend under a bus to further his own end (and I'm not just talking about the nomination, I include his major part in precipitating the behaviour he now gets to conveniently denounce).
Yes, Austin's been an arse the last few days. But his biggest fault isn't even his hot-headedness. It's that he's been unable to spot that the *biggest* manipulator in there wasn't Janice, wasn't even Jenna, but was the chap closest to him all along.
I just think this is so brutal if true. I actually hope BB did show the nominations to the HMs, Austin deserves to know.
Originally Posted by Helen90:
“I just think this is so brutal if true. I actually hope BB did show the nominations to the HMs, Austin deserves to know.”
“I just think this is so brutal if true. I actually hope BB did show the nominations to the HMs, Austin deserves to know.”
I hope they don't because I think part of the reason Austin has been acting up so much the last few days, whether he can identify it himself or not, is because of the slowly dawning realisation that he's been well and truly used by someone he thought he was close to
To show the nominations would just be the final push needed towards full-on meltdown mode and that would just play into James' hands. Which means, of course, BB probably *will* show it because he's clearly their preferred winner. And bonus, they get to elevate Janice up to fourth at least, and finish as 'top American'.
GOOD FOR JAMES! He's given Austin chance after chance, but Austin continually attacks every decision he makes/opinion he has. James has had an issue with how Austin talks to people from the very start, and has tried to steer Austin away from it. Now Austin has turned that nasty tongue on him. Why would he look bad for nominating Austin now? CBB is giving Austin a horrible edit, and James the level-headed good guy one. This will just be another step toward the winner's crown for him.
[James could be playing a complete game, but if he is he's playing it so damn well I hope he wins anyway. At this point I want anyone but Austin and Bobby to win. Jenna's not a fave of mine either.]
[James could be playing a complete game, but if he is he's playing it so damn well I hope he wins anyway. At this point I want anyone but Austin and Bobby to win. Jenna's not a fave of mine either.]
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“Awesome. Showing some real balls there.
Can't wait for the fallout. *grabs popcorn*”
“Awesome. Showing some real balls there.
Can't wait for the fallout. *grabs popcorn*”
Yeah - good for James. (If this is correct, of course) this has made him my winner this year I think. Once more choosing who HE wants to choose, for his OWN valid reasons, not just going along with who he would be expected to choose because 'he is closest to them'. (What a facile phrase that is!)
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“To expand, I posted earlier this evening about how James was now kicking Austin to the kerb now that he's got everything he could out of him. I didn't expect it to be confirmed quite so conclusively quite so quickly.
The bromance served him well and was always going to benefit James more than Austin, But now he's positioned nicely for the final he's more than happy to let Austin struggle and show himself up to be rather too emotional and somewhat immature. It helps, of course, to ease Austin into his meltdown by pulling the friendship-rug out from beneath him, distancing himself with full awareness it's going to leave Austin floundering without anyone else to turn to other than the equally as duplicitous Jenna.
Meanwhile James gets to act all high and mighty. He gets lots of little opportunities to deliver vote-winning speeches about how he's needed mentors in his life, how lovely his grandfather is/was, how he treats everyone with respect (presumably discounting the men he assaulted in that pub) and just smother us all with his lovely fuzzy-wuzzy humility. Hey everyone, he's grown out of Austin now (that he's helped initiate his meltdown), there's your winner folks!
I liked James early on. I thought he seemed measured and a decent sort and the bromance was fun. But the last few days has shown he's really ruthless and more of a gameplayer than anyone I can quite remember in any recent series, quite prepared to throw his friend under a bus to further his own end (and I'm not just talking about the nomination, I include his major part in precipitating the behaviour he now gets to conveniently denounce).
Yes, Austin's been an arse the last few days. But his biggest fault isn't even his hot-headedness. It's that he's been unable to spot that the *biggest* manipulator in there wasn't Janice, wasn't even Jenna, but was the chap closest to him all along.”
“To expand, I posted earlier this evening about how James was now kicking Austin to the kerb now that he's got everything he could out of him. I didn't expect it to be confirmed quite so conclusively quite so quickly.
The bromance served him well and was always going to benefit James more than Austin, But now he's positioned nicely for the final he's more than happy to let Austin struggle and show himself up to be rather too emotional and somewhat immature. It helps, of course, to ease Austin into his meltdown by pulling the friendship-rug out from beneath him, distancing himself with full awareness it's going to leave Austin floundering without anyone else to turn to other than the equally as duplicitous Jenna.
Meanwhile James gets to act all high and mighty. He gets lots of little opportunities to deliver vote-winning speeches about how he's needed mentors in his life, how lovely his grandfather is/was, how he treats everyone with respect (presumably discounting the men he assaulted in that pub) and just smother us all with his lovely fuzzy-wuzzy humility. Hey everyone, he's grown out of Austin now (that he's helped initiate his meltdown), there's your winner folks!
I liked James early on. I thought he seemed measured and a decent sort and the bromance was fun. But the last few days has shown he's really ruthless and more of a gameplayer than anyone I can quite remember in any recent series, quite prepared to throw his friend under a bus to further his own end (and I'm not just talking about the nomination, I include his major part in precipitating the behaviour he now gets to conveniently denounce).
Yes, Austin's been an arse the last few days. But his biggest fault isn't even his hot-headedness. It's that he's been unable to spot that the *biggest* manipulator in there wasn't Janice, wasn't even Jenna, but was the chap closest to him all along.”
What absolute nonsense.
How did James make Austin act like an idiot? He's been trying to stop him.
How did James make Austin turn on him and attack him twice, with Jenna and treat him like crap?
Do you honestly think that James' actions have NOTHING to do with Austin acting horribly in the house and towards someone that was his friend - you dont' treat friends the way Austin and Jenna have treated James.
All James wanted was for Austin to rein it in a bit and stop taking it out on HIM.
I don't subscribe to any of this 'oh he's a bit hotheaded', THIS IS THE PROBLEM, and there are consequences to behaving nastily to people.
As for Austin, he's been jumping to Janice's and Jenna's tune, and Janice has wound him up a treat, and Jenna has been making him feel justified to blame JAMES, and not have a good hard look at HIMSELF.
Now I've always liked Austin, but he's been wilfully, childishly stupid over this, and blaming James and treating HIM badly was a betrayal of their friendship.
All he had to have done in this whole situation was NOT act a ****, basically.
Originally Posted by roseblue1:
“Austin has not supported James...in fact what has been Austins downfall is Jenna he has let her come between them and has attacked James.
James will still win even if he has nominated Austin...Austin is losing the plot”
“Austin has not supported James...in fact what has been Austins downfall is Jenna he has let her come between them and has attacked James.
James will still win even if he has nominated Austin...Austin is losing the plot”
I think Austin already lost the plot ........ sometime around when he was having a go at Chloe for his brother's daft memorial.
Originally Posted by revolver44:
“James is utterly ruthless in his pursuit for the crown, and to think we all thought he was Prince Charming haha
”
“James is utterly ruthless in his pursuit for the crown, and to think we all thought he was Prince Charming haha
”
Eh?????
This is a TV show, a lightweight entertainment doo dah. You make it sound like life and death. Ruthless, pursuit of the crown - what emotive, even hysterical terms to use.
Originally Posted by blue_angel:
“I've still not got to the bottom of him saving Janice. One of the weirdest decisions I've ever seen on BB. His reasoning just made no sense!
I like James, really like him, but I can't see why anyone would praise the fact of him nominating Austin (assuming Austin hasn't nommed him). He's his friend, it's bad form. Even if I hated Austin with a passion it would still make me think less of James.”
“I've still not got to the bottom of him saving Janice. One of the weirdest decisions I've ever seen on BB. His reasoning just made no sense!
I like James, really like him, but I can't see why anyone would praise the fact of him nominating Austin (assuming Austin hasn't nommed him). He's his friend, it's bad form. Even if I hated Austin with a passion it would still make me think less of James.”
Yeah and 'friends' fall out. Even ones in real life who you might have known for years - you know real friends. I simply can't understand some of the mentality on this forum - the notion that you can fall into very deep friendships, in such a short time, in such an artificial environment.
In case anyone's forgotten, this is a TV GAME SHOW - it's a studio - most of these these people had never met each other less than a month ago, yet many on here expect them to be loyal 'friends' for life. They are acquaintances - nothing more. I certainly wouldn't call anyone a friend who I had only known 3 weeks - and that's in real life.
I hope James has nommed Austin actually. Austin's been a total arse to James and a bully to the women this last couple of weeks.
If anything at the beginning I was prejudiced against James, and sympathetic to Austin (who was articulate and fun) but because of the evidence of my eyes and ears I have gradually warmed to James (who has grown up a lot since The Apprentice) and dislike Austin more every day. Austin is a rude and needy bonehead who self-centered and arrogant.
Originally Posted by yogacats:
“Yeah and 'friends' fall out. Even ones in real life who you might have known for years - you know real friends. I simply can't understand some of the mentality on this forum - the notion that you can fall into very deep friendships, in such a short time, in such an artificial environment.
In case anyone's forgotten, this is a TV GAME SHOW - it's a studio - most of these these people had never met each other less than a month ago, yet many on here expect them to be loyal 'friends' for life. They are acquaintances - nothing more. I certainly wouldn't call anyone a friend who I had only known 3 weeks - and that's in real life.
I hope James has nommed Austin actually. Austin's been a total arse to James and a bully to the women this last couple of weeks.”
“Yeah and 'friends' fall out. Even ones in real life who you might have known for years - you know real friends. I simply can't understand some of the mentality on this forum - the notion that you can fall into very deep friendships, in such a short time, in such an artificial environment.
In case anyone's forgotten, this is a TV GAME SHOW - it's a studio - most of these these people had never met each other less than a month ago, yet many on here expect them to be loyal 'friends' for life. They are acquaintances - nothing more. I certainly wouldn't call anyone a friend who I had only known 3 weeks - and that's in real life.
I hope James has nommed Austin actually. Austin's been a total arse to James and a bully to the women this last couple of weeks.”
We're not confusing it with 'real life', but the whole original point of BB was as a experiment into people's characters, their reaction and actions when in an intense environment. It was a social experiment. That's how I see it still, even if it has gone off the beaten path. This whole isolated concept breeds familiarity quickly. I'm not saying anyone becomes BFF's forever, but you have to look at the house as an isolated bubble. All the housemates in there do. In real life you'd never start a screaming match over someone drinking a class of wine, but in there it's intensified. That's the whole beauty of it. So within that isolated bubble, yes James and Austin were friends.
Don't spoil our fun
In prehistory humans lived in small groups. People also broke away to form new groups. You see this dynamic in CBB all the time - the desire to be together but also wanting to escape.
I notice how when the object of hatred leaves there is a brief period of content, then a new target arises. It is as if people can put up with each other just so long as they have a target to hate.
I notice how when the object of hatred leaves there is a brief period of content, then a new target arises. It is as if people can put up with each other just so long as they have a target to hate.
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“So what do you think of him now if he has nominated Austin then, he's obviously played him and everybody else like a good un if that's the case and only used Austin with the bromance story to get him to the final! Scoop was not at all impressed on BOTS! I think a lot of people will look on him as being disingenuous.”
“So what do you think of him now if he has nominated Austin then, he's obviously played him and everybody else like a good un if that's the case and only used Austin with the bromance story to get him to the final! Scoop was not at all impressed on BOTS! I think a lot of people will look on him as being disingenuous.”
Good post sums up the situation well imo.
Originally Posted by hannah:
“I might be in the minority but I'm glad he nominated Austin”
“I might be in the minority but I'm glad he nominated Austin”
Count me in.
Started off liking Austin, but now I find him to be a precious little arsehole who is an easily manipulated, self-righteous, immature little manchild who is prone to tantrums.
Originally Posted by Bionic01:
“Exactly, Austin has been hideous this week, I'm not surprised if James has nominated him, regardless of any friendship they had which has clearly deteriorated. James gets more likable by the day.”
“Exactly, Austin has been hideous this week, I'm not surprised if James has nominated him, regardless of any friendship they had which has clearly deteriorated. James gets more likable by the day.”
Austin has been hideous every week. He was hideous the first night; bitching and stirring and starting all the agro in the house. It's quite laughable how James/Austin/Jaustin fans are now just ignoring the fact that Austin has been acting completely the same from the very start. Still, it excuses James if we pretend Austin has somehow changed.
Originally Posted by Tiffani:
“James was just using Austin to give him a storyline and now he has thrown him aside. It's a shame cos Austin genuinely likes him.”
“James was just using Austin to give him a storyline and now he has thrown him aside. It's a shame cos Austin genuinely likes him.”
Pretty much sums it up.
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“I'd hate to think he was that calculating from day dot. But can't say it's not possible.”
“I'd hate to think he was that calculating from day dot. But can't say it's not possible.”
I think there's no doubt he was that calculating from day dot. It was screaming at me from the very get go with his little bitching runs from one group to another; stirring the pot more subtly and ably than Austin ever did.
Originally Posted by wildpark:
“Austin is an empty head, with an empty life. He fills it with self-righteous shouting. James runs several businesses, and is used to taking account of others feelings. Once he has expressed his opinion he feels no need to endlessly repeat it until such time as Austin gets bored with shouting. Austin (the spoilt brat) leaves no room for compromise. He is a tit.”
“Austin is an empty head, with an empty life. He fills it with self-righteous shouting. James runs several businesses, and is used to taking account of others feelings. Once he has expressed his opinion he feels no need to endlessly repeat it until such time as Austin gets bored with shouting. Austin (the spoilt brat) leaves no room for compromise. He is a tit.”
No, he'll hit you or bite your ear, apparently.
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“To expand, I posted earlier this evening about how James was now kicking Austin to the kerb now that he's got everything he could out of him. I didn't expect it to be confirmed quite so conclusively quite so quickly.
The bromance served him well and was always going to benefit James more than Austin, But now he's positioned nicely for the final he's more than happy to let Austin struggle and show himself up to be rather too emotional and somewhat immature. It helps, of course, to ease Austin into his meltdown by pulling the friendship-rug out from beneath him, distancing himself with full awareness it's going to leave Austin floundering without anyone else to turn to other than the equally as duplicitous Jenna.
Meanwhile James gets to act all high and mighty. He gets lots of little opportunities to deliver vote-winning speeches about how he's needed mentors in his life, how lovely his grandfather is/was, how he treats everyone with respect (presumably discounting the men he assaulted in that pub) and just smother us all with his lovely fuzzy-wuzzy humility. Hey everyone, he's grown out of Austin now (that he's helped initiate his meltdown), there's your winner folks!
I liked James early on. I thought he seemed measured and a decent sort and the bromance was fun. But the last few days has shown he's really ruthless and more of a gameplayer than anyone I can quite remember in any recent series, quite prepared to throw his friend under a bus to further his own end (and I'm not just talking about the nomination, I include his major part in precipitating the behaviour he now gets to conveniently denounce).
Yes, Austin's been an arse the last few days. But his biggest fault isn't even his hot-headedness. It's that he's been unable to spot that the *biggest* manipulator in there wasn't Janice, wasn't even Jenna, but was the chap closest to him all along.”
“To expand, I posted earlier this evening about how James was now kicking Austin to the kerb now that he's got everything he could out of him. I didn't expect it to be confirmed quite so conclusively quite so quickly.
The bromance served him well and was always going to benefit James more than Austin, But now he's positioned nicely for the final he's more than happy to let Austin struggle and show himself up to be rather too emotional and somewhat immature. It helps, of course, to ease Austin into his meltdown by pulling the friendship-rug out from beneath him, distancing himself with full awareness it's going to leave Austin floundering without anyone else to turn to other than the equally as duplicitous Jenna.
Meanwhile James gets to act all high and mighty. He gets lots of little opportunities to deliver vote-winning speeches about how he's needed mentors in his life, how lovely his grandfather is/was, how he treats everyone with respect (presumably discounting the men he assaulted in that pub) and just smother us all with his lovely fuzzy-wuzzy humility. Hey everyone, he's grown out of Austin now (that he's helped initiate his meltdown), there's your winner folks!
I liked James early on. I thought he seemed measured and a decent sort and the bromance was fun. But the last few days has shown he's really ruthless and more of a gameplayer than anyone I can quite remember in any recent series, quite prepared to throw his friend under a bus to further his own end (and I'm not just talking about the nomination, I include his major part in precipitating the behaviour he now gets to conveniently denounce).
Yes, Austin's been an arse the last few days. But his biggest fault isn't even his hot-headedness. It's that he's been unable to spot that the *biggest* manipulator in there wasn't Janice, wasn't even Jenna, but was the chap closest to him all along.”
I agree with all of this but for one thing - I never liked James.
Originally Posted by wildpark:
“Austin is an empty head, with an empty life. He fills it with self-righteous shouting. James runs several businesses, and is used to taking account of others feelings. Once he has expressed his opinion he feels no need to endlessly repeat it until such time as Austin gets bored with shouting. Austin (the spoilt brat) leaves no room for compromise. He is a tit.”
“Austin is an empty head, with an empty life. He fills it with self-righteous shouting. James runs several businesses, and is used to taking account of others feelings. Once he has expressed his opinion he feels no need to endlessly repeat it until such time as Austin gets bored with shouting. Austin (the spoilt brat) leaves no room for compromise. He is a tit.”
^^^^ This, frankly ^^^^^
Originally Posted by R82n8:
“Count me in.
Started off liking Austin, but now I find him to be a precious little arsehole who is an easily manipulated, self-righteous, immature little manchild who is prone to tantrums.”
“Count me in.
Started off liking Austin, but now I find him to be a precious little arsehole who is an easily manipulated, self-righteous, immature little manchild who is prone to tantrums.”
Couldn't have put it better myself.
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