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Old 27-10-2015, 14:14
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This is what happens when the star becomes bigger than the station. No boundaries, no direction just whatever he wants to do.
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Old 27-10-2015, 14:26
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I agree Chris sounded today utterly bored, tired and just messing about with sound effects, other station jingles and acting like he couldn't really give a toss.

It's also clear Global have give him limited jingles and talk over beds, to the point he's now using the LBC ones.

Moyles is extremely talented but totally limited in what he can do with the repetitive music, lack of imaging, lack of celebs etc

He's moved from one of the UK's biggest stations to a relatively small scale station, knowing the in the same building you have Crapital and Heart must hurt him a lot.

I've expressed my concerns about Dave previously he's not right for Moyles and A lot of responsibility is in the hands of Dom right now.
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Old 27-10-2015, 15:10
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It's on the way back down when a bit of humility comes in handy and the realisation that you might need to work a little smarter and make the most of what you've got.
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Old 27-10-2015, 18:00
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I agree Chris sounded today utterly bored, tired and just messing about with sound effects, other station jingles and acting like he couldn't really give a toss.

It's also clear Global have give him limited jingles and talk over beds, to the point he's now using the LBC ones.

Moyles is extremely talented but totally limited in what he can do with the repetitive music, lack of imaging, lack of celebs etc

He's moved from one of the UK's biggest stations to a relatively small scale station, knowing the in the same building you have Crapital and Heart must hurt him a lot.

I've expressed my concerns about Dave previously he's not right for Moyles and A lot of responsibility is in the hands of Dom right now.
Radio X has a national breakfast show unlike Capital and Heart so surely Moyles' audience will be bigger than any individual Heart or Capital breakfast show.

Whilst I agree Capital and Heart are the bigger networks, Radio X should have the bigger breakfast show.
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Old 27-10-2015, 20:16
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Not sure why everyone is having a pop at Dave - Chris has been very vocal about the fact that when he signed up it was only on the proviso that he is given carte blanche to do what he wants with the show.
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Old 27-10-2015, 21:01
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Not sure why everyone is having a pop at Dave - Chris has been very vocal about the fact that when he signed up it was only on the proviso that he is given carte blanche to do what he wants with the show.
He says those words are in his contract.

Very difficult to be Global's man in the room when the company have already gift-wrapped and presented your testicles to the man in the hotseat...
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Old 27-10-2015, 21:29
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Not sure why everyone is having a pop at Dave - Chris has been very vocal about the fact that when he signed up it was only on the proviso that he is given carte blanche to do what he wants with the show.
Yes,, it's Chris' show he is way more talented than being a mere presenter he is effectively the producer too, with Dave and Pippa acting as assistant producers, ignore the fancy exec producer titles.
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Old 28-10-2015, 06:57
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Switched off after 15 mins all this talk on Bono & U2 is making me a wee bit tired.
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Old 28-10-2015, 07:16
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Switched off after 15 mins all this talk on Bono & U2 is making me a wee bit tired.
I said yesterday I would not be listening as it would be one arse licking fest. I am glad I was not wrong.
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Old 28-10-2015, 08:51
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and the funny thing is, I don't U2 are actually on the show this morning...
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Old 28-10-2015, 09:00
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Radio X has a national breakfast show unlike Capital and Heart so surely Moyles' audience will be bigger than any individual Heart or Capital breakfast show.

Whilst I agree Capital and Heart are the bigger networks, Radio X should have the bigger breakfast show.
I'd be surprised if Chris is getting more listeners nationally (remember, only one extra city on FM) than Heart or Capital in London.

The last stats I can see show that the best weekday half hour share for breakfast for XFM London was about 50k, compared to about 180k for Capital London and 190k for Heart London. Let's generously assume that XFM Manchester was getting half the London figure (25k), that still needs Moyles to more than double the previous XFM breakfast audience to get ahead of Heart or Capital London. I really don't see that being the case.

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Old 28-10-2015, 09:09
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I'd be surprised if Chris is getting more listeners nationally (remember, only one extra city on FM) than Heart or Capital in London.

The last stats I can see show that the best weekday half hour share for breakfast for XFM London was about 50k, compared to about 180k for Capital London and 190k for Heart London. Let's generously assume that XFM Manchester was getting half the London figure (25k), that still needs Moyles to more than double the previous XFM breakfast audience to get ahead of Heart or Capital London. I really don't see that being the case.

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You're just looking at FM listeners, what about all the listeners in the rest for the country on DAB/online. London and Manchester FM only covers about 1/6th of the UK I'm pretty sure there will be a lot of people in the other 5/6ths of the country tuning in, just listen to where people call and text from most are outside London and Manchester.

So if we use your Maths of of 75k for London and Manchester then multiply by 6 for national coverage your at 450k, well over Heart's 190k. Even if you factor in a pessimistic 50% drop as the rest of the country is DAB/online rather than FM and only multiply by 3 you'd be at 225k, again well above Capital and Heart London breakfast, so I expect Moyles gets more listeners than Dave Berry or Jamie Theakston.

Radio X is not XFM as it's no longer a set of local stations but a national station covering the whole of the UK unlike Heart and Capital which are just a group of local stations with small breakfast shows for each area,
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Old 28-10-2015, 09:25
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Even if you factor in a pessimistic 50% drop as the rest of the country is DAB/online rather than FM and only multiply by 3 you'd be at 225k, again well above Capital and Heart London breakfast, so I expect Moyles gets more listeners than Dave Berry or Jamie Theakston.
I think that 50% is rather optimistic. Happy to agree to disagree until a few months down the road when we have some actual numbers.
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Old 28-10-2015, 09:32
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and the funny thing is, I don't U2 are actually on the show this morning...
It appears not, apparently just a wind up... all will be revealed after the current song it seems...
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Old 28-10-2015, 09:41
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It appears not, apparently just a wind up... all will be revealed after the current song it seems...
They're on now.
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Old 28-10-2015, 09:43
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I get the feeling they nearly weren't...!
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Old 28-10-2015, 09:49
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I think the problem with the show is that Chris just doesn't have enough to talk about. On Radio 1 he had the whole of the BBC, and Radio 1 was a much "busier" station than Radio X, when all you have to go on is the sodding Road Trip week in week out. Plus it's a much smaller team than before which means less material to talk about. So you get the situation where a couple of weeks in and he's already going on about Heart, LBC, Smooth etc, as if he's run out of Radio X material. Then on Facebook and Twitter you have all the old fans chanting "bring back Roy Walker/Andi Peters/Dominic the Donkey" as if repetition is the only thing of merit.

He's just about pulling it off at the moment as he has a way of making you care about a link even when it's inconsequential, but I wish he'd just have a bit of self-control and do a 5 minute link instead of 10 mins when there's no material...the world wouldn't end, no-one would die.

Oh and after hardly playing any U2 at all for the first month they're suddenly playing them all the time now Bono's coming in as a guest...awkward.
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Old 28-10-2015, 10:05
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the u2 interview went well and thank god they have binned the odious "madam" moniker for Dave
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Old 28-10-2015, 10:19
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I think the problem with the show is that Chris just doesn't have enough to talk about. On Radio 1 he had the whole of the BBC, and Radio 1 was a much "busier" station than Radio X, when all you have to go on is the sodding Road Trip week in week out. Plus it's a much smaller team than before which means less material to talk about. So you get the situation where a couple of weeks in and he's already going on about Heart, LBC, Smooth etc, as if he's run out of Radio X material. Then on Facebook and Twitter you have all the old fans chanting "bring back Roy Walker/Andi Peters/Dominic the Donkey" as if repetition is the only thing of merit.

He's just about pulling it off at the moment as he has a way of making you care about a link even when it's inconsequential, but I wish he'd just have a bit of self-control and do a 5 minute link instead of 10 mins when there's no material...the world wouldn't end, no-one would die.
Which is why he needs strong direction from a Programme Controller but he seems to be above critique if you believe his contract arrangements. The old adage about no one being bigger than the station is clichéd but there's no faulting its accuracy.
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Old 28-10-2015, 10:20
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I agree Chris sounded today utterly bored, tired and just messing about with sound effects, other station jingles and acting like he couldn't really give a toss.

It's also clear Global have give him limited jingles and talk over beds, to the point he's now using the LBC ones.

Moyles is extremely talented but totally limited in what he can do with the repetitive music, lack of imaging, lack of celebs etc

He's moved from one of the UK's biggest stations to a relatively small scale station, knowing the in the same building you have Crapital and Heart must hurt him a lot.

I've expressed my concerns about Dave previously he's not right for Moyles and A lot of responsibility is in the hands of Dom right now.
I thought he choose the music for his show? Or is he still limited in what he can play ?
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Old 28-10-2015, 10:25
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I thought he choose the music for his show? Or is he still limited in what he can play ?
No he plays what's on the Radio X playout system, he may occasionally drop songs when he speaks too much so may drop the songs he's less keen on but he only selects the songs for Friday's Platinum hour and then they have to be Radio X friendly, if he had free reign he'd be playing Taylor Swift, Take That and McFly which would repel the old XFM listeners.

The only feature playing non Radio X genre tracks is the wheel of inappropriate songs, but he then sings all over them so this is more a feature rather than playing a track in full uninterrupted.
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Old 28-10-2015, 10:31
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No he plays what's on the Radio X playout system, he may occasionally drop songs when he speaks too much so may drop the songs he's less keen on but he only selects the songs for Friday's Platinum hour and then they have to be Radio X friendly, if he had free reign he'd be playing Taylor Swift, Take That and McFly which would repel the old XFM listeners.

The only feature playing non Radio X genre tracks is the wheel of inappropriate songs, but he then sings all over them so this is more a feature rather than playing a track in full uninterrupted.
Really ? I i misunderstood then from reading this thread I thought he choose all the music. Looking at what he plays there's usually some much older stuff and stuff not normally played on other daytime shows (excluding the novelty tracks of course which show up as well)
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Old 28-10-2015, 10:38
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No Breakfast breakdown, but interesting to see 6 Music had almost double the audience in London of Xfm, despite only being on digital platforms.

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Old 28-10-2015, 10:57
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No Breakfast breakdown, but interesting to see 6 Music had almost double the audience in London of Xfm, despite only being on digital platforms.

Quality always wins out in the end.

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That's good to see, so the fact Radio X is only on DAB for 85% of the country is no reason for it to attract lower audiences, so my assumption that nationally they should have 6x the audience of London/Manchester is valid, even with XFM's poor figures this would put Moyles way above Heart and Capital's London breakfast shows and you'd expect Moyles to pull many more listners than Jon Holmes did on XFM so Moyles is going to be a much bigger breakfast show that those other 2 which he shares a building with.
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Old 28-10-2015, 11:07
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No Breakfast breakdown, but interesting to see 6 Music had almost double the audience in London of Xfm, despite only being on digital platforms.

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