This month off is turning into a real dogs breakfast. Sorry Chris, but the door is hitting my backside as I return to LBC, but you won't mind that because you love your Global family.
The Chris Moyles Show – RadioX
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Originally Posted by Mou Mou Land:
“This month off is turning into a real dogs breakfast. Sorry Chris, but the door is hitting my backside as I return to LBC, but you won't mind that because you love your Global family.”
“This month off is turning into a real dogs breakfast. Sorry Chris, but the door is hitting my backside as I return to LBC, but you won't mind that because you love your Global family.”
Isn't it just. My chosen alternatives have been 6M and Absolute, and I've rather enjoyed both. I might just stick with one of them. And this is a long time Moyles fan talking here. How many more like me, I wonder?
Originally Posted by Sense of Day:
“Isn't it just. My chosen alternatives have been 6M and Absolute, and I've rather enjoyed both. I might just stick with one of them. And this is a long time Moyles fan talking here. How many more like me, I wonder?”
“Isn't it just. My chosen alternatives have been 6M and Absolute, and I've rather enjoyed both. I might just stick with one of them. And this is a long time Moyles fan talking here. How many more like me, I wonder?”
The problem with absolute is they also have a very limited playlist. Yes you might not here the same song twice in a day, but guaranteed your hear it the next day in a different order.
6 music should of went a different direction when launched it should of got the ex R1 dj's, it would of been perfect Chris, Whiley, Cox and Scott. And playing music from when they were doing there old shows with a mixture of new stuff. The commercial stations would of vanished overnight and good riddance.
I really hope Mr Moyles returns refreshed. Breakfast radio should ALWAYS be live. As much as I think the pre-records have been produced well, I think the show should be able to be spontaneous and reactive.
For those who prefer Mr Moyles predecessor, Jon Holmes; He is covering Edith for at breakfast on Virgin this week.
Originally Posted by Orangy:
“For those who prefer Mr Moyles predecessor, Jon Holmes; He is covering Edith for at breakfast on Virgin this week.”
“For those who prefer Mr Moyles predecessor, Jon Holmes; He is covering Edith for at breakfast on Virgin this week.”
Interesting....
Since Moyles has been having a never ending holiday I started listening to Virgin and quite like it so I'll be sticking with Virgin for now.
Originally Posted by ChickenChops909:
“Moyles is simply not suited to this station or anything it stands for. Capital would be the best option for Chris .”
“Moyles is simply not suited to this station or anything it stands for. Capital would be the best option for Chris .”
I don't think Moyles would suit Capital in the slightest. Especially not their current sound and style, most of their recent signings have been trendy young guys in their early 20s, who follow fashion, current music and DJ in the cool clubs and bars around London or are regulars on TV music channels. I can't see a middle aged chubby bloke with a northern accent who drinks ale in his local pub at the weekend fitting in at all with the Capital of 2016.
Originally Posted by nobjockey:
“I don't think Moyles would suit Capital in the slightest. Especially not their current sound and style, most of their recent signings have been trendy young guys in their early 20s, who follow fashion, current music and DJ in the cool clubs and bars around London or are regulars on TV music channels. I can't see a middle aged chubby bloke with a northern accent who drinks ale in his local pub at the weekend fitting in at all with the Capital of 2016.”
“I don't think Moyles would suit Capital in the slightest. Especially not their current sound and style, most of their recent signings have been trendy young guys in their early 20s, who follow fashion, current music and DJ in the cool clubs and bars around London or are regulars on TV music channels. I can't see a middle aged chubby bloke with a northern accent who drinks ale in his local pub at the weekend fitting in at all with the Capital of 2016.”
I agree that Moyles isn't a fit for Capital. At all. But I think you'd be surprised at his on-air persona on Radio X. I never listened to him regularly on Radio 1, but I was taken aback at how un-blokey he has been since taking over on X (having been sold the bloke label).
Doesn't really dig much of the music, save for the likes of the Chilis or Coldplay. Not interested in football. Drinks low alcohol lager - couldn't see him trying craft beer like many X listeners.
In fact, his interests seem to be centred on things like Celebrity Big Brother (he even interviewed the host), Judge Rinder (interviewed him too!), what's happening with Taylor Swift. It's been so off-brand it hurts. They've even started doing an on-air bit where they guess the sample of 90s rap songs.
The above hints at the problem. Where the hell do these interests belong on the radio? Probably only a City 1 station would actually suit him.
Thing is though, where Moyles is right now is where a lot of former Radio 1 listeners who have just fallen out the target audience are as well. Commercial radio doesn't have a clear home for those who liked Radio 1 output, don't feel old enough for Radio 2 and don't want to hear Berky and Dinky in the morning with their £50 cash giveaway.
I didn't go to 6 Music when I left Radio 1, I'm not going to a watered-down version either. I still want to hear pop and some decent chat. I want to be slowly introduced to new music while still hearing stuff I love. And, aside from Irish radio, the only other place I'm finding this right now is Spotify. Which is a little worrying for a radio geek.
Thing is, this is not a 'isn't all commercial radio nasty and horrible?' moan. They're doing what they do to get listeners, and that's the entire point - it's commercial, they're businesses. Culturally though, the Bauer stations sounds like all the songs I was fed up with ages ago with ned callers (that makes me a snob, I know, sorry). Capital makes me feel 94 years old. Heart's good for a quick burst but you couldn't imagine listening day on day.
I didn't go to 6 Music when I left Radio 1, I'm not going to a watered-down version either. I still want to hear pop and some decent chat. I want to be slowly introduced to new music while still hearing stuff I love. And, aside from Irish radio, the only other place I'm finding this right now is Spotify. Which is a little worrying for a radio geek.
Thing is, this is not a 'isn't all commercial radio nasty and horrible?' moan. They're doing what they do to get listeners, and that's the entire point - it's commercial, they're businesses. Culturally though, the Bauer stations sounds like all the songs I was fed up with ages ago with ned callers (that makes me a snob, I know, sorry). Capital makes me feel 94 years old. Heart's good for a quick burst but you couldn't imagine listening day on day.
Originally Posted by Orangy:
“For those who prefer Mr Moyles predecessor, Jon Holmes; He is covering Edith for at breakfast on Virgin this week.”
“For those who prefer Mr Moyles predecessor, Jon Holmes; He is covering Edith for at breakfast on Virgin this week.”
I think you'll find that Mr. Moyles' predecessor has been doing Virgin's evening show since the station launched...
Originally Posted by Declan_McGrath1:
“Did everybody hear the pips at 6.45 this morning and quickly faded out.”
“Did everybody hear the pips at 6.45 this morning and quickly faded out.”
I would imagine that "everybody" didn't, as according to RAJAR only a very small percentage of the population actually listen to the station...
Originally Posted by beemoh:
“I think you'll find that Mr. Moyles' predecessor has been doing Virgin's evening show since the station launched...”
“I think you'll find that Mr. Moyles' predecessor has been doing Virgin's evening show since the station launched...
”
He has? I meant immediate predecessor.
Jon Holmes did announce on Sunday he'd be doing the Virgin breakfast this week, but Edith was on as normal this morning. Shrug.
Originally Posted by Orangy:
“He has? I meant immediate predecessor.”
“He has? I meant immediate predecessor.”
Tim Cocker, who does evenings, was the XFM Manchester breakfast presenter until Radio X happened. It's quite a nice tie-up, in a way.
Originally Posted by p_c_u_k:
“Thing is though, where Moyles is right now is where a lot of former Radio 1 listeners who have just fallen out the target audience are as well. Commercial radio doesn't have a clear home for those who liked Radio 1 output, don't feel old enough for Radio 2 and don't want to hear Berky and Dinky in the morning with their £50 cash giveaway.
Thing is, this is not a 'isn't all commercial radio nasty and horrible?' moan. They're doing what they do to get listeners, and that's the entire point - it's commercial, they're businesses. Culturally though, the Bauer stations sounds like all the songs I was fed up with ages ago with ned callers (that makes me a snob, I know, sorry). Capital makes me feel 94 years old. Heart's good for a quick burst but you couldn't imagine listening day on day.”
“Thing is though, where Moyles is right now is where a lot of former Radio 1 listeners who have just fallen out the target audience are as well. Commercial radio doesn't have a clear home for those who liked Radio 1 output, don't feel old enough for Radio 2 and don't want to hear Berky and Dinky in the morning with their £50 cash giveaway.
Thing is, this is not a 'isn't all commercial radio nasty and horrible?' moan. They're doing what they do to get listeners, and that's the entire point - it's commercial, they're businesses. Culturally though, the Bauer stations sounds like all the songs I was fed up with ages ago with ned callers (that makes me a snob, I know, sorry). Capital makes me feel 94 years old. Heart's good for a quick burst but you couldn't imagine listening day on day.”
I agree with this, I suppose those of us in Yorkshire are quite lucky as Capital Yorkshire Breakfast doesn't follow the usual 'bloke and dizzy blonde girl' format that most do.
The rest of the output is obviously the same as everywhere else, Friday and Saturday nights are the most formulaic on commercial radio, every text read out is from a girl who is getting ready for a big night out and wants such and such a song played to get her in the mood.
Chris Moyles lost his appeal to me the minute he left R1 in the same way that Ricky Gervais lost his appeal once he stopped working with Karl Pilkington. Oh and he got silly thin, doesn't suit him. He (Chris) was a geezer, now hes a man bag carrying moisturising member of a gym somewhere trendy.
I'm sure I'll start listening again next week, but I've not really listened for the last month. I too worryingly, also for a radio geek, have been turning to Spotify. Worrying times I think.
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“Chris Moyles lost his appeal to me the minute he left R1 in the same way that Ricky Gervais lost his appeal once he stopped working with Karl Pilkington. Oh and he got silly thin, doesn't suit him. .”
“Chris Moyles lost his appeal to me the minute he left R1 in the same way that Ricky Gervais lost his appeal once he stopped working with Karl Pilkington. Oh and he got silly thin, doesn't suit him. .”
Glad I'm not the only one that feels this way. Re. his new film, a thin 'David Brent' just doesn't work.
He doesn't like criticism just look at his twitter feed. A man under pressure I feel he's had 3 weeks off must be the longest he's been off. And to put a best of week on is really poor effort why Vaughn can't do breakfast is beyond me maybe it's because Chris is scared of the competition. Q3 rajar is available 27th October could be interesting. Radio 1's Ofton goes up
Due to summer holidays.
Due to summer holidays.
Originally Posted by theboyrodd:
“He doesn't like criticism just look at his twitter feed. A man under pressure I feel he's had 3 weeks off must be the longest he's been off. And to put a best of week on is really poor effort why Vaughn can't do breakfast is beyond me maybe it's because Chris is scared of the competition. Q3 rajar is available 27th October could be interesting. Radio 1's Ofton goes up
Due to summer holidays.”
“He doesn't like criticism just look at his twitter feed. A man under pressure I feel he's had 3 weeks off must be the longest he's been off. And to put a best of week on is really poor effort why Vaughn can't do breakfast is beyond me maybe it's because Chris is scared of the competition. Q3 rajar is available 27th October could be interesting. Radio 1's Ofton goes up
Due to summer holidays.”
Wow just read the tweets, i am a long standing moyles fan, but treating your audience with such contempt with sarcastic tweets, just because they don't like listening a 'best of' rather than the live show.
You can voice track a music show or similar, but a spontaneous live radio show isn't spontaneous at all if it is a 'best of'
The issue for me is not the fact Moyles has had several weeks off - I've always said that if you throw yourself into your job when you're on and you're delivering then when you're off you are off, and for some time. It's perfectly healthy and allows a recharging of the batteries, if it's possible to allow it.
I've no sympathy for people getting bashed back at by Moyles - a lot of people are Twitter warriors who decide to send snark and then clutch their pearls when someone takes them on. If you can't take it don't dish it out. I do think it's counter-productive for someone likes Moyles to get involved in Twitter rows, but I don't blame him for doing so.
I do think a 'best of' for a national breakfast show is a really, really bad idea however. It makes the station sound tinpot, and it doesn't need to be like that because there are presenters there who could hold the fort in the interim. It seems bizarre that Johnny Vaughan hasn't been on breakfast in this time, for example. Problem is, a lot of Radio X feels like people are listening for individual shows and then going away. Moyles fans listen for him, Vaughan fans listen for him, the old-school XFM fans tune in for specialist shows and so forth. So if Moyles is off, his fans may go somewhere else - and not come back.
It is very early days but it still doesn't feel like a coherent station. The knack to this is how long Global wants to give it, and how the figures go. You can imagine it'll end up naturally evolving in one direction or another eventually, whether to Radio Bloke with Vaughan at breakfast or a station which feels more suited to Moyles' style.
I've no sympathy for people getting bashed back at by Moyles - a lot of people are Twitter warriors who decide to send snark and then clutch their pearls when someone takes them on. If you can't take it don't dish it out. I do think it's counter-productive for someone likes Moyles to get involved in Twitter rows, but I don't blame him for doing so.
I do think a 'best of' for a national breakfast show is a really, really bad idea however. It makes the station sound tinpot, and it doesn't need to be like that because there are presenters there who could hold the fort in the interim. It seems bizarre that Johnny Vaughan hasn't been on breakfast in this time, for example. Problem is, a lot of Radio X feels like people are listening for individual shows and then going away. Moyles fans listen for him, Vaughan fans listen for him, the old-school XFM fans tune in for specialist shows and so forth. So if Moyles is off, his fans may go somewhere else - and not come back.
It is very early days but it still doesn't feel like a coherent station. The knack to this is how long Global wants to give it, and how the figures go. You can imagine it'll end up naturally evolving in one direction or another eventually, whether to Radio Bloke with Vaughan at breakfast or a station which feels more suited to Moyles' style.
Johnny Vaughan may also not want to be seen as a 'cover presenter' and feels breakfast disrupts his own show. Also generally as a rule the next breakfast host would not be the stand in hence Grimmy/Moyles wasn't the automatic choice for Chris/Sara and why I expect Greg James hasn't been allowed out on breakfast yet (Radio 1 preferring Dev as third choice after Scott)
Originally Posted by abertom:
“Johnny Vaughan may also not want to be seen as a 'cover presenter' and feels breakfast disrupts his own show. Also generally as a rule the next breakfast host would not be the stand in hence Grimmy/Moyles wasn't the automatic choice for Chris/Sara and why I expect Greg James hasn't been allowed out on breakfast yet (Radio 1 preferring Dev as third choice after Scott)”
“Johnny Vaughan may also not want to be seen as a 'cover presenter' and feels breakfast disrupts his own show. Also generally as a rule the next breakfast host would not be the stand in hence Grimmy/Moyles wasn't the automatic choice for Chris/Sara and why I expect Greg James hasn't been allowed out on breakfast yet (Radio 1 preferring Dev as third choice after Scott)”
It's an interesting point and it may well be the case. Once upon a time deputising for someone on breakfast was seen as a good chance to test potential future breakfast show hosts out - Mark and Lard for Chris Evans, Kevin Greening for Mark and Lard - but I accept others may do it differently.
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