yes i agreed JV was great on breakfast last week, as i don't listen at breakfast on Radio X these days, and like other i've headed to christian on absolute as a rule. yet in Xfm days i would danny wallance and many before him too.
The Chris Moyles Show – RadioX
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Agree to a degree, the team is probably weaker without Comedy Dave/Aled etc
I think we should be thankful we have the show as it is now. Chris loves radio and knows how to put on a good show, we dont know how many of his ideas are being held back by budget/management control.
The show on Radio 1 probably had much higher production costs, i reckon Matt the audio producer works across other shows.
The Radio 1 show had become a bit samey/stale, the personality/voices had been together along time. I do think Dom is quite witty and obviosuly intelligent in his own right, but plays this down in his show role, he is like Comedy Dave lite.
I do like Dave Masterman, he contributes well and obviously has a big off air role, ediiting and producing Saturday shows and podcasts.
Pippa is the find of the new show, she brings a lot of content to the show. She is a very likeable and funny without being annoying
Chris mentions running out of material for the extra shows, Saturday, podcasts.
I think they shut cut the Saturday show, to link and best of the week content running for 2 hours.
Get Toby Tarrant in for a live Saturday Breakfast show
Something like 6.30-9 Toby Tarrant
9-11 Moyles Best of
11-1 J Vaughan Kickabout then ...as is now
I think we should be thankful we have the show as it is now. Chris loves radio and knows how to put on a good show, we dont know how many of his ideas are being held back by budget/management control.
The show on Radio 1 probably had much higher production costs, i reckon Matt the audio producer works across other shows.
The Radio 1 show had become a bit samey/stale, the personality/voices had been together along time. I do think Dom is quite witty and obviosuly intelligent in his own right, but plays this down in his show role, he is like Comedy Dave lite.
I do like Dave Masterman, he contributes well and obviously has a big off air role, ediiting and producing Saturday shows and podcasts.
Pippa is the find of the new show, she brings a lot of content to the show. She is a very likeable and funny without being annoying
Chris mentions running out of material for the extra shows, Saturday, podcasts.
I think they shut cut the Saturday show, to link and best of the week content running for 2 hours.
Get Toby Tarrant in for a live Saturday Breakfast show
Something like 6.30-9 Toby Tarrant
9-11 Moyles Best of
11-1 J Vaughan Kickabout then ...as is now
Originally Posted by Declan_McGrath1:
“Is Chris still talking to Comedy Dave, Dave Vitty still tweets about Radio 1 etc.”
“Is Chris still talking to Comedy Dave, Dave Vitty still tweets about Radio 1 etc.”
Nope dont speak big fall out, google daves ex wife Moyles
Dom tweets him now and again
After a week of solidly listening to another breakfast show last week, and hearing Chris Evans in the car this morning, I've stumbled across another reason why I don't think it works for me. It's the lack of a clock.
When I was listening to RTE 2fm last week, while the presenters were given room to show their personalities (and would talk over quite a bit of the end of a song if required to give that breathing room), there was a clear feeling of knowing where you were at any point in the morning. Even without being familiar with the format, I could tell what point I had time to sleep in, what point I should get out of bed, what time I should really get out the house. If you listen to Chris Evans' show it's even more structured - the same features pop up, even down to the grand 8am pips and the songs out of that news bulletin.
In comparison, I know where I am for the first 45 minutes of Moyles show - he's going to talk for a long time, then there's a news bulletin, then a bit more chat ... and then it's not so clear. There's no half hour news update, no traffic or travel, there don't seem to be many regular features. I used to think I'd be delighted with Moyles not wasting his time going to Classical Class or Celebrity Tarzan, but I now realise these things give the show a structure to give you more time to make the rest of it better, and give the listeners clear signals.
That, combined with the really small playlist of music I don't really like in the first place (as opposed to Radio 1 playlist music) and the same ideas seemingly appearing at random, plus the show sounding like it's just a slightly inferior version of the Radio 1 show (a kind of Aldi or Lidl version), and the lack of relevance to the outside world these days, switch me off. And it is literally because of all these things combined - I'm sure I could go with it otherwise.
But hey, that's just me. It may work for others.
When I was listening to RTE 2fm last week, while the presenters were given room to show their personalities (and would talk over quite a bit of the end of a song if required to give that breathing room), there was a clear feeling of knowing where you were at any point in the morning. Even without being familiar with the format, I could tell what point I had time to sleep in, what point I should get out of bed, what time I should really get out the house. If you listen to Chris Evans' show it's even more structured - the same features pop up, even down to the grand 8am pips and the songs out of that news bulletin.
In comparison, I know where I am for the first 45 minutes of Moyles show - he's going to talk for a long time, then there's a news bulletin, then a bit more chat ... and then it's not so clear. There's no half hour news update, no traffic or travel, there don't seem to be many regular features. I used to think I'd be delighted with Moyles not wasting his time going to Classical Class or Celebrity Tarzan, but I now realise these things give the show a structure to give you more time to make the rest of it better, and give the listeners clear signals.
That, combined with the really small playlist of music I don't really like in the first place (as opposed to Radio 1 playlist music) and the same ideas seemingly appearing at random, plus the show sounding like it's just a slightly inferior version of the Radio 1 show (a kind of Aldi or Lidl version), and the lack of relevance to the outside world these days, switch me off. And it is literally because of all these things combined - I'm sure I could go with it otherwise.
But hey, that's just me. It may work for others.
Originally Posted by Pete_uk:
“The Cookie Monster this morning...
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“The Cookie Monster this morning...
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"It was fun hearing that muppet on Radio X this morning, and to have the Cookie Monster on as a guest on his first day back, etc..."
What did people think of Chris's approach to the show this morning?
I'm glad the US elections were covered to the depth they were - but I just felt it was empty at times. It was like Chris was doing a 5Live show, but without any guests, commentators or other people to talk about it.
I'm glad the US elections were covered to the depth they were - but I just felt it was empty at times. It was like Chris was doing a 5Live show, but without any guests, commentators or other people to talk about it.
Originally Posted by GzSmith:
“What did people think of Chris's approach to the show this morning?
I'm glad the US elections were covered to the depth they were - but I just felt it was empty at times. It was like Chris was doing a 5Live show, but without any guests, commentators or other people to talk about it.”
“What did people think of Chris's approach to the show this morning?
I'm glad the US elections were covered to the depth they were - but I just felt it was empty at times. It was like Chris was doing a 5Live show, but without any guests, commentators or other people to talk about it.”
Chris is not good at politics - he should have made one point and then moved on.
Originally Posted by GzSmith:
“What did people think of Chris's approach to the show this morning?
I'm glad the US elections were covered to the depth they were - but I just felt it was empty at times. It was like Chris was doing a 5Live show, but without any guests, commentators or other people to talk about it.”
“What did people think of Chris's approach to the show this morning?
I'm glad the US elections were covered to the depth they were - but I just felt it was empty at times. It was like Chris was doing a 5Live show, but without any guests, commentators or other people to talk about it.”
Moyles has always been excellent with light and shade - his experience as a broadcaster shines when something huge happens, or there's a huge celebrity death, or something like that.
Having said that, had I woken up this morning to that I don't think I would have been happy. I'm not sure bringing the show to a grinding halt is the way to go. Given everyone's a little stressed out by what's going on you'd want updated on what's going on, but for it not to absolutely dominate the show - it's a really difficult skill to get right.
Mind you, listening back now it is a good listen. Almost making sense of it all.
It dominated the first half but they eased off so Dave could make an elephant out of 2 towels
Chris is relatively good at doing those shows, he broadcasted on R1 as the Twin Towers went down, handled it very well if I remember correctly.
Chris is relatively good at doing those shows, he broadcasted on R1 as the Twin Towers went down, handled it very well if I remember correctly.
Originally Posted by bwfcol:
“It dominated the first half but they eased off so Dave could make an elephant out of 2 towels
Chris is relatively good at doing those shows, he broadcasted on R1 as the Twin Towers went down, handled it very well if I remember correctly.”
“It dominated the first half but they eased off so Dave could make an elephant out of 2 towels
Chris is relatively good at doing those shows, he broadcasted on R1 as the Twin Towers went down, handled it very well if I remember correctly.”
That was just before he stopped his Saturday morning show and handed it over to Jamie Theakston to allow him to start his radio career.
Interesting that on R1 he was prepared to do 6 live shows a week yet refuses to do the same for Radio X and pre-records the Saturday show, what's changed?
Originally Posted by pjex:
“Interesting that on R1 he was prepared to do 6 live shows a week yet refuses to do the same for Radio X and pre-records the Saturday show, what's changed?”
“Interesting that on R1 he was prepared to do 6 live shows a week yet refuses to do the same for Radio X and pre-records the Saturday show, what's changed?”
That was when he was still building his career, before he got the Radio 1 Breakfast Show gig, so was probably quite happy to do weekday afternoons and Saturday mornings. He probably now regards himself to be at the peak of his career, so doesn’t (shouldn’t?) have to work as much as he did back then. Of course you might now say his career has actually peaked and he’s about to go down the other side... but that’s another discussion...
It’s similar to how Ant and Dec were approached to replace Chris Tarrant on the Capital Breakfast Show over 10 years ago. To think Ant and Dec would consider hosting a 5 day a week radio breakfast show in London now is crazy given their current career success, but back then when they were still building their careers it was a realistic possibility.
Originally Posted by pjex:
“Interesting that on R1 he was prepared to do 6 live shows a week yet refuses to do the same for Radio X and pre-records the Saturday show, what's changed?”
“Interesting that on R1 he was prepared to do 6 live shows a week yet refuses to do the same for Radio X and pre-records the Saturday show, what's changed?”
Is he refusing or are Radio X just not letting him?
Back then if I remember rightly he was doing early breakfast and Drive both of which weren't very long (less than 3 hours) so a Sat morning show made sense. To do a full breakfast show live 6 days a week is a bit much. Is fine for Heart drive DJ's who generally don't do much prep to do an extra day
Originally Posted by NoEntry2k:
“That was when he was still building his career, before he got the Radio 1 Breakfast Show gig, so was probably quite happy to do weekday afternoons and Saturday mornings. He probably now regards himself to be at the peak of his career, so doesn’t (shouldn’t?) have to work as much as he did back then. Of course you might now say his career has actually peaked and he’s about to go down the other side... but that’s another discussion...
It’s similar to how Ant and Dec were approached to replace Chris Tarrant on the Capital Breakfast Show over 10 years ago. To think Ant and Dec would consider hosting a 5 day a week radio breakfast show in London now is crazy given their current career success, but back then when they were still building their careers it was a realistic possibility.”
“That was when he was still building his career, before he got the Radio 1 Breakfast Show gig, so was probably quite happy to do weekday afternoons and Saturday mornings. He probably now regards himself to be at the peak of his career, so doesn’t (shouldn’t?) have to work as much as he did back then. Of course you might now say his career has actually peaked and he’s about to go down the other side... but that’s another discussion...
It’s similar to how Ant and Dec were approached to replace Chris Tarrant on the Capital Breakfast Show over 10 years ago. To think Ant and Dec would consider hosting a 5 day a week radio breakfast show in London now is crazy given their current career success, but back then when they were still building their careers it was a realistic possibility.”
When Sara Cox got R1 breakfast he said he knew he wasn't wanted then as the'd also approached Ant & Dec.
Wonder how differently Chris' career would have panned out if he'd got R1 breakfast in 2000 instead of 2004, 12 years at breakfast or would he have taken a lesser slot and stuck with the BBC if he was dropped in 08?
Originally Posted by abertom:
“Back then if I remember rightly he was doing early breakfast and Drive both of which weren't very long (less than 3 hours) so a Sat morning show made sense. To do a full breakfast show live 6 days a week is a bit much. Is fine for Heart drive DJ's who generally don't do much prep to do an extra day”
“Back then if I remember rightly he was doing early breakfast and Drive both of which weren't very long (less than 3 hours) so a Sat morning show made sense. To do a full breakfast show live 6 days a week is a bit much. Is fine for Heart drive DJ's who generally don't do much prep to do an extra day”
Good point his drive show was 1:45, crazy to think a show could be that sort. Think he dropped Saturdays when Mayo left and he got an extra hour each day starting at 3.
If Moyles is doing so poorly at X how comes his show is higher up these forums than any other breakfast shows e.g Evans & Grimmy?
Originally Posted by pjex:
“If Moyles is doing so poorly at X how comes his show is higher up these forums than any other breakfast shows e.g Evans & Grimmy?”
“If Moyles is doing so poorly at X how comes his show is higher up these forums than any other breakfast shows e.g Evans & Grimmy?”
Becoz Anoraks.
Originally Posted by pjex:
“If Moyles is doing so poorly at X how comes his show is higher up these forums than any other breakfast shows e.g Evans & Grimmy?”
“If Moyles is doing so poorly at X how comes his show is higher up these forums than any other breakfast shows e.g Evans & Grimmy?”
More flawless logic from pjex there. Not sure if it's escaped your attention but people are mainly using this thread to say how disappointed they are with the new show.
If the Titanic was such a bad ship, how come people are still talking about it 100 years later!!!
Originally Posted by rocketscience:
“More flawless logic from pjex there. Not sure if it's escaped your attention but people are mainly using this thread to say how disappointed they are with the new show.
If the Titanic was such a bad ship, how come people are still talking about it 100 years later!!!”
“More flawless logic from pjex there. Not sure if it's escaped your attention but people are mainly using this thread to say how disappointed they are with the new show.
If the Titanic was such a bad ship, how come people are still talking about it 100 years later!!!”
I logged in to praise your Titanic mention 😆
Was only saying this last week as we drove past merseyside docks
Huge ships are there and I said what is it with Titanic (other ships are available)
Behind on Chris' show this week but would love him and Steve Allen for an hour each week
I'm not sure if chat on here about shows and stations can be regarded as a great indication of popularity with the general public.
The LBC thread has been going since when the station had half the listeners it has now and one of the most memorable threads on here was about a small station in Wales.
The LBC thread has been going since when the station had half the listeners it has now and one of the most memorable threads on here was about a small station in Wales.
The popularity of the Oak FM thread should give pjex his answer 😜
Listened back to a bit of Moyles's Wednesday show. Painful listening, as I expected. He's obviously using these events to audition for a talk show but politics clearly isn't his thing.
There was absolutely zero discussion of anything that mattered. There was a lot to talk about. Trump's policy platform - some of them frankly alarming (trade deals with China, Canada; backing for the Paris agreement; a total shutdown on Muslims entering the country etc.) - and whether we can expect to see them followed through. How did Clinton contrive to lose? Who won the vote for Trump (exit polls immediately suggested wealthy white voters, including a healthy majority of white women)? What does this mean for the UK - US special relationship? Could there be any impact on Brexit? Did the polls get it wrong and can we trust them? Is the west seeing a rise of populist nationalism? How can the centre ground / liberal left respond?
That's just off the top of my head, and absolutely none of it was covered. It was just Moyles telling us that America had dropped a clanger. Incidentally, he took a more measured approach on Brexit (for obvious reasons). Empty words, a guy who doesn't know what he's talking about trying to sound authoritative. Embarrassing.
Listened back to a bit of Moyles's Wednesday show. Painful listening, as I expected. He's obviously using these events to audition for a talk show but politics clearly isn't his thing.
There was absolutely zero discussion of anything that mattered. There was a lot to talk about. Trump's policy platform - some of them frankly alarming (trade deals with China, Canada; backing for the Paris agreement; a total shutdown on Muslims entering the country etc.) - and whether we can expect to see them followed through. How did Clinton contrive to lose? Who won the vote for Trump (exit polls immediately suggested wealthy white voters, including a healthy majority of white women)? What does this mean for the UK - US special relationship? Could there be any impact on Brexit? Did the polls get it wrong and can we trust them? Is the west seeing a rise of populist nationalism? How can the centre ground / liberal left respond?
That's just off the top of my head, and absolutely none of it was covered. It was just Moyles telling us that America had dropped a clanger. Incidentally, he took a more measured approach on Brexit (for obvious reasons). Empty words, a guy who doesn't know what he's talking about trying to sound authoritative. Embarrassing.
Originally Posted by botson_is_whack:
“The popularity of the Oak FM thread should give pjex his answer 😜
Listened back to a bit of Moyles's Wednesday show. Painful listening, as I expected. He's obviously using these events to audition for a talk show but politics clearly isn't his thing.
There was absolutely zero discussion of anything that mattered. There was a lot to talk about. Trump's policy platform - some of them frankly alarming (trade deals with China, Canada; backing for the Paris agreement; a total shutdown on Muslims entering the country etc.) - and whether we can expect to see them followed through. How did Clinton contrive to lose? Who won the vote for Trump (exit polls immediately suggested wealthy white voters, including a healthy majority of white women)? What does this mean for the UK - US special relationship? Could there be any impact on Brexit? Did the polls get it wrong and can we trust them? Is the west seeing a rise of populist nationalism? How can the centre ground / liberal left respond?
That's just off the top of my head, and absolutely none of it was covered. It was just Moyles telling us that America had dropped a clanger. Incidentally, he took a more measured approach on Brexit (for obvious reasons). Empty words, a guy who doesn't know what he's talking about trying to sound authoritative. Embarrassing.”
“The popularity of the Oak FM thread should give pjex his answer 😜
Listened back to a bit of Moyles's Wednesday show. Painful listening, as I expected. He's obviously using these events to audition for a talk show but politics clearly isn't his thing.
There was absolutely zero discussion of anything that mattered. There was a lot to talk about. Trump's policy platform - some of them frankly alarming (trade deals with China, Canada; backing for the Paris agreement; a total shutdown on Muslims entering the country etc.) - and whether we can expect to see them followed through. How did Clinton contrive to lose? Who won the vote for Trump (exit polls immediately suggested wealthy white voters, including a healthy majority of white women)? What does this mean for the UK - US special relationship? Could there be any impact on Brexit? Did the polls get it wrong and can we trust them? Is the west seeing a rise of populist nationalism? How can the centre ground / liberal left respond?
That's just off the top of my head, and absolutely none of it was covered. It was just Moyles telling us that America had dropped a clanger. Incidentally, he took a more measured approach on Brexit (for obvious reasons). Empty words, a guy who doesn't know what he's talking about trying to sound authoritative. Embarrassing.”
Lighten up. I don't think Moyles has any aspiration to be John Humphrys.
The headline was "Trump won, we didnt expect that".
They then gave away a Sky box,made an elephant out of towels and played the Courteeners, or something.
If I wanted in depth discussion I would go to LBC or Radio 4.
Originally Posted by botson_is_whack:
“There was absolutely zero discussion of anything that mattered. There was a lot to talk about. Trump's policy platform - some of them frankly alarming (trade deals with China, Canada; backing for the Paris agreement; a total shutdown on Muslims entering the country etc.) - and whether we can expect to see them followed through. How did Clinton contrive to lose? Who won the vote for Trump (exit polls immediately suggested wealthy white voters, including a healthy majority of white women)? What does this mean for the UK - US special relationship? Could there be any impact on Brexit? Did the polls get it wrong and can we trust them? Is the west seeing a rise of populist nationalism? How can the centre ground / liberal left respond?”
“There was absolutely zero discussion of anything that mattered. There was a lot to talk about. Trump's policy platform - some of them frankly alarming (trade deals with China, Canada; backing for the Paris agreement; a total shutdown on Muslims entering the country etc.) - and whether we can expect to see them followed through. How did Clinton contrive to lose? Who won the vote for Trump (exit polls immediately suggested wealthy white voters, including a healthy majority of white women)? What does this mean for the UK - US special relationship? Could there be any impact on Brexit? Did the polls get it wrong and can we trust them? Is the west seeing a rise of populist nationalism? How can the centre ground / liberal left respond?”
It's Radio X, it's not Radio 4.
There is a way of covering a serious topic and reflecting it within a normally light-hearted breakfast show. I'm not sure they had it perfect this time round, but I certainly don't want them to turn full news show on us.
The best breakfast shows make you feel that you're informed enough to know what's going on, but also entertained.
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