Hasn't it only been allowed for Radio X due to the Manchester and London FM licences being 'specialist', where the rules are a bit different?

I'd imagine that networked, big-name breakfast shows on Capital and Heart would absolutely be the holy grail for Global - but unlikely without some fairly significant shifts in either regulatory constraints.

They've managed it at the weekend, though, so never say never...

OFCOM is currently correcting a mistake made in the early days - launching regional instead of national radio commercial stations. Effectively the regionals and specialist music stations are becoming national stations, assisted by UK-wide DAB coverage.

I doubt there will be much change for the local licences soon - there's still demand from the public for local voices. It doesn't make sense commercially to have a specialist indie rock station for a small market like Paisley and demand it has local output.

To be fair, many of the Capital network stations were licensed as specialist stations also. Capital Yorkshire was the specialist dance music station 'Kiss 105' before becoming Galaxy, a dance and r'n'b station.

Sure, it's been watered down over the years though.

I'm not sure that regionals over nationals were a mistake. Regional specialist stations seem reasonable - The Kiss105s, Choices, Xfms, etc.

It was allowing regional radio to move into the MOR territory of the ILRs did a lot of damage to the concept of local radio. The Reals and Centuries granted by the old RA were great stations, but they shouldn't really have been allowed to happen in my opinion.

I personally would have liked more local competition for the heritage ILRs... Albeit with less format regulation as the stations found their feet in their respective markets.

This has got to be one of DS's greatest posts. Classic FM Breakfast with Chris Moyles. Incredible.


Remember that most (all?) of the stations that ultimately became Real started off having pretty high speech requirements. That was their way of not being too competitive with the original ILRs. It arguably worked a little too well (Scot FM for example), hence the requirements gradually being watered down.

Wonder how they'll approach Juice FM Liverpool, as it is a local licence with a alternative rock and dance format.

Thinking about it further, why not add LBC (He could have a caller discuss something topical whilst he plays music on other stations), Gold, The Arrow and Smooth Extra.

The Global smart networking breakfast with Chris Moyles makes huge amounts of sense and would save Global a lot of money on the cost of all these seperate breakfast shows. It spends enough on all the Heart and Capital local breakfasts without having to also have many broadcasting from London, all they need is a Capital London Breakfast, a Heart London Breakfast and Moyles doing the rest. Although as Moyles is broadcasting from London couldn't he also get away with presenting the Capital and Heart shows too.

Huge efficiency savings to be made and in Moyles they have a broadcaster who appeals to all as proved at Radio 1 when he dissapointed the BBC by attracting so many off target listeners. With his new smart networking breakfast he doesn't need to worry about things he referencse not being understood because he'll have the whole spectrum of society tuned in.

All this talk about Global networking The Chris Moyles Show across multiple stations is absolute nonsense.

If Global want to capitalise further on the (assumed) success of The Chris Moyles Show they can either try and increase the popularity of Radio X further, or lobby for a national breakfast show on Capital and move Chris Moyles over to that (as it has a greater reach). Anything else is absolute nonsense.

Agree. As one of the UK's leading Brahms scholars, he's probably a bit too high brow for Classic FM breakfast.

Classic FM Chris Moyles

Did Chris genuinely crash Classic FM this morning? Afterwards, he made a reference to it all going smoothly 'as if it was pre-recorded'.

Unclear whether, if that's the case, it was purely for logistical reasons - or whether the whole thing was faked.

The time on the classic FM studio clock was 07:25, I was listening and it didn't happen live then

Yeah I assumed from the way he said it that it was pre-recorded for logistical reasons. I've not heard all of the gate crashes but he had no luck with Heart after they locked him out and didn't another station cut to ads just as he got there? The way he said that the wheel was going and never to be used for that purpose again seemed to me that he knew it hadn't been a successful feature.

Maybe Chris Moyles best bits could work on other stations overnight.

Chris Moyles will not be happy just sticking around on Radio X he will keep asking for more, his energy and enthusiasm for radio will continue to grow, he always want things togrow, expand and do things different to everyone else and above all he wants to be the king of radio.

If Global they can pull this off with breakfast networking with Moyles working on all the music stations at the same time he can do it. It wouldn't work for LBC and possibly Classic Fm is a bit dodgy as well, but certainly The Arrow, Smooth, Capital, Gold, Capital Extra, Chill and Heart is a great possibility and it would work just like it does on Absolute Stations.

Global will save a fortune and it will bring an absolute radio legend to even more people. No wonder the other presenters don't want Moyles getting involved with other stations they see him as threat with presenters locking the doors.

There is a reason why suddenly all the stations are linking in together. Moyles has big plans...

Are Global aiming for Chris Moyles being on everything including Heart with different music on different stations. But still have the same chit chat.

I would say so. If you quickly scan through all the Absolute stations during weekday breakfast you'll hear how it's done. As an average listener you don't notice anything different.

No. They really aren't.

if you find me an alternative rock track ever played on juice fm i ll show my arse in woolies window has my grandad would say

Can you imagine the Heart audience with Moyles? And the Capital audience?

The only reason those stations got listeners from 2004-2012 is that some people don't like Moyles/Wogan or Evans. Will never happen

Chris wants to grow Radio X, he wants to prove Radio 1/Ben Cooper wrong.

All of Absolute's stations are targeted at the same broad listener base - that's why they have the same name! Within that broad base there's musical preferences. (On the app I've flicked between all the stations to try to find something I like.)

Global has already networked stations into separate brands. They're not trying to save money by putting Moyle's onto all of them (Classic FM - ha ha!). Rather, these big names are the identity of their branded stations; their salaries are (part of) the marketing budget for these large national brands.

Mock Global all you like, but it's an increasingly well executed strategy to take on the BBC that can only be achieved through consolidation.

Global v BBC;

Radio 1 - Capital/Radio X
1Xtra - Capital Xtra
Radio 2 - Heart/Smooth/Gold/LBC (Jeremy Vine)
Radio 3 - Classic FM
Radio 4 - Global don't offer an option here but not sure a commerical option would be viable Oneword failed badly and C4 radio wasn't going to work. This station is truly unique to the BBC.
Radio 5 - LBC (No sport equivalent from Global but Talksport dominate here)
6Music - Radio X
BBC local - Heart/Capital local shows and news bulletins

No.

Some people in the thread are getting carried away with some very bizarre ideas. Moyles on Classic FM? Really?!? Even Moyles on Smooth FM is ludicrous.
In fact I’m just going to quote myself to save me wasting more time writing on the subject.

The clock is actually at 6:25. When does the Classic FM breakfast show start? Is it 6:30? I'm guessing that they pre-recorded that bit in the Classic FM breakfast studio just before the actual show went on air.

You can tell I don't like Capital and Heart output.

it starts at 0600