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Old 21-09-2015, 17:54
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I haven't no, but didn't Janice also use the 'c' word on someone?! Does age and gender matter when using it?

I can take or leave Austin, to be honest. I'm not that too fussed about him, but prefer him to the gob shite James. I got the measure of him when he was on the apprentice, didn't like him then, don't like him now. Way too contrived. I would even prefer the gruesome twosome to win over him.
I hate the word but using it towards a woman really is the lowest of the low and no, age shouldn't matter. Did Janice use the word in a rant to another hm?

I was indifferent to Austin but that rant has made me really dislike him, it does not sit well with me to speak to another person that way. What is it about the Americans on this show? Jenna, Farrah, Austin and Janice all with vulgar mouths? I prefer Daniel and Scoop so more respectful.
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Old 21-09-2015, 17:54
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There seems to be memory blindness and a get out of jail free card where Janice is concerned She called the HMs the C word in the diary room I think it was, some time ago. Maybe she is an awful EG of a mother Hmm

Anyway, once again, Austin's outburst was after he found out James nominated him so what he said is not a reason for nominating him. Also he apologised unreservedly later on.

I feel like it's a very one sided report on here. Still it'll probably be what we get on the show too
I don't mind the c word but the other stuff he said to her and about lashing her in the DR.

As I've said with the other thing. Natasha confronted Austin too and said he always does this so tne whole Austin going ott is not new and was the reason for the nom. Jenna turned Austin away from James whilst them two made digs.

It's Austins fault, James has repeatedly told Austin but he didn't care.

I'd nom my friend if he did this. Stevie and Bobby said the same so do you think James, Natasha, Bobby and Stevie are all wrong? Austin had obviously been a nightmare
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Old 21-09-2015, 17:56
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put it another way if the entire world is against you, maybe it's you that's the c*nt ...
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Old 21-09-2015, 17:56
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put it another way if the entire world is against you, maybe it's you that's the c*nt ...
Of course.
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Old 21-09-2015, 18:00
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I'd be horrified to see a friend of mine talking to an older woman like that.”
I agree with you on disliking Austin but what's this comment about.

I don't mind Janice but she swears all the time and thinks she's a 20 year old until it comes to chores.

But anyway, what's all this - can't speak to older women in a certain way or can't talk to a young woman in a certain way?!
How about we treat everyone equal and have no preferential treatment depending on age!
Why should someone be able to speak to a 35 year old man anyway they want but a 65 year old woman is suddenly a different situation???

There is just no debate to this.

P.s I do hate Austin, though.
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Old 21-09-2015, 18:04
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Austin has got what he deserves, James in all fairness has tried and tried to warn him about his behaviour and how he speaks to people but Austin just ignored him and carried on.

The problem we all have is that we do not see enough of what actually goes on in the house to understand why certain people act like they do, but it does seem obvious from all the comments made by the HM's Austin has been ranting and raving all along. James has stood by him even though he has told him he doesn't like the way he is acting, it's possible he has gone too far and so James nomminated him, so fair enough.

If he hadn't gone for Austin who else was there for him to chose? He couldn't vote for Bobby, Sherrie, Natasha, Stevie/Chloe or Janice, just after saving her two days before, it seemed obvious to me he would go for Jenna and Austin, although if Austin had listened to him and had stopped behaving so obnoxiously it would have been a more difficult choice for him.

Why does Jenna think she has the right to demand an explanation from James why he voted for her? Has any other HM dared to ask her her reasons for voting like she has, ie voted for James?

James was pushed into voting for Austin and has done nothing wrong, it's a game after all!!!

James for the win!!
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Old 21-09-2015, 18:33
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But judging by what Natasha says;

I’ve had enough of your f**king loud voice, this is what we have all the time from you!”

It means it's not a new thing and it isn't James just imagining it. Everyone bar Jenna can see it. Even Tash who is a friend of Austin's. On the Twitter feed, Bobby and Stevie said the same.
Do you know what she's referring to? Perhaps she means other instances where James has been strategic in his dealings with Austin. Choosing Janice over Jenna for instance.
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Old 21-09-2015, 18:34
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Do you know what she's referring to? Perhaps she means other instances where James has been strategic in his dealings with Austin. Choosing Janice over Jenna for instance.
given she's saying that to Austin I doubt its critical of James
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Old 21-09-2015, 18:42
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Do you know what she's referring to? Perhaps she means other instances where James has been strategic in his dealings with Austin. Choosing Janice over Jenna for instance.
The fact that she's talking to Austin makes it clear it was directed at Austin.
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Old 21-09-2015, 18:54
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The fact that she's talking to Austin makes it clear it was directed at Austin.
What do you reckon she was referring to?

Edit - What specific blow ups.
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Old 21-09-2015, 19:03
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Agree whatever James has said behind Austins back he has said it to his face...but it is not acceptable for a young man of 26 to call a sixty year old woman a c@nt.
Why? She called him same and in my opinion both are spot on.

It must be a cultural thing. British people evidently feel backstabbing a friend is reasonable and well I don't think it is.

I'm a bit confused by your claiming offense to the word. If it offends you Why did you circumvent the DS system to write it and post it?? It doesn't offend me and I managed not to type it into an open forum.
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Old 21-09-2015, 19:15
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Well it seems to me that the OP is pointing out that Natasha is backing James up in his nomination of Austin, but the evidence is merely backing him up in as much as Austin has a loud voice and uses it a lot.

Natasha hasn't commented on the rights or wrongs of it at all is that correct?
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Old 21-09-2015, 19:15
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Why? She called him same and in my opinion both are spot on.

It must be a cultural thing. British people evidently feel backstabbing a friend is reasonable and well I don't think it is.

I'm a bit confused by your claiming offense to the word. If it offends you Why did you circumvent the DS system to write it and post it?? It doesn't offend me and I managed not to type it into an open forum.
maybe its because us brits have the expression "you've made your bed now you have to lie in in" Austin has made his by acting like a **** despite his friend he was so "close" to telling him to stop and is now lying in it.

They've known each other 4 weeks and like James told Austin it takes longer than that to truly know someone and it seems James doesn't like the Austin we are now seeing
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Old 21-09-2015, 19:15
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Well it seems to me that the OP is pointing out that Natasha is backing James up in his nomination of Austin, but the evidence is merely backing him up in as much as Austin has a loud voice and uses it a lot.

Natasha hasn't commented on the rights or wrongs of it at all is that correct?
that much we don't know yet
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Old 21-09-2015, 19:18
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Well it seems to me that the OP is pointing out that Natasha is backing James up in his nomination of Austin, but the evidence is merely backing him up in as much as Austin has a loud voice and uses it a lot.

Natasha hasn't commented on the rights or wrongs of it at all is that correct?
Well on the hls last night she told James to man up and stand up to Austin.

So its obvious that she's uncomfortable with him.
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Old 21-09-2015, 19:19
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Why? She called him same and in my opinion both are spot on.

It must be a cultural thing. British people evidently feel backstabbing a friend is reasonable and well I don't think it is.

I'm a bit confused by your claiming offense to the word. If it offends you Why did you circumvent the DS system to write it and post it?? It doesn't offend me and I managed not to type it into an open forum.
He didn't back stab him, he nominated him, which is the name of the game. They're not friends in real life and didn't even know each other a month ago. I would not be surprised if they are no longer in contact in a couple months time. James has been amiable with all the HM's currently in there so was in danger of being called a "back stabber" whoever he nominated.
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Old 21-09-2015, 19:24
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that much we don't know yet
So it's irrelevant at this point.

I thought i'd ask because it seemed to be the only relevant (to the title) part of the opening post.
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Old 21-09-2015, 19:24
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maybe its because us brits have the expression "you've made your bed now you have to lie in in" Austin has made his by acting like a **** despite his friend he was so "close" to telling him to stop and is now lying in it.

They've known each other 4 weeks and like James told Austin it takes longer than that to truly know someone and it seems James doesn't like the Austin we are now seeing
That is not a British expression...
Clearly British people have no loyalty and no issues backstabbing a friend.

You're allowed. I have higher standards but you are under no obligation to...
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Old 21-09-2015, 19:25
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He didn't back stab him, he nominated him, which is the name of the game. They're not friends in real life and didn't even know each other a month ago. I would not be surprised if they are no longer in contact in a couple months time. James has been amiable with all the HM's currently in there so was in danger of being called a "back stabber" whoever he nominated.
So game is more important than PEOPLE. Another British trait is it?
You do realize that there is no prize in this game.

All the excuses in the world, all the spin will never make it alright to my American standards. Carry on.
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Old 21-09-2015, 19:27
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“The way he goes off and how he is treating people is very hard for me, because you know, I have to make the right decision, and as much as I love him, you know, he is wrong and how he is behaving is wrong,” Hill says, explaining his nomination of Austin. “It makes it very hard for me because he is my best friend in here.”

http://www.standard.co.uk/stayingin/...-a2952431.html
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Old 21-09-2015, 19:27
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Well on the hls last night she told James to man up and stand up to Austin.

So its obvious that she's uncomfortable with him.
After hearing James side of a story. In which he told her they were ganging up on him. That's good advice from Natasha but it doesn't mean she agrees with his take on the situation. She's just hearing a mate out and offering advice. I could be wrong but that's how i heard it.
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Old 21-09-2015, 19:31
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So game is more important than PEOPLE. Another British trait is it?
You do realize that there is no prize in this game.

All the excuses in the world, all the spin will never make it alright to my American standards. Carry on.
You're being very dramatic. It's a game show. They are all there for the money and publicity - simple as that.

And talking of excuses - Austin's behaviour is inexcusable.
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Old 21-09-2015, 19:34
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I'd like how you'd react if you friend called your Mum, sister or daughter a "c**t" and all the stuff you have said.

Say whatever you want. But if ANYONE said that, I'd be horrified. In fact, if a friend sad that to someone, I'd do more than nominate them, I'd probably punch him for being a knob.
Well said. There is no excuse for calling any woman that and he just behaves like a spoilt child. He really needs to grow up AND address his anger issues.
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Old 21-09-2015, 19:35
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You're being very dramatic. It's a game show. They are all there for the money and publicity - simple as that.

And talking of excuses - Austin's behaviour is inexcusable.
It's not really a game. There are no rules that can't be changed. The teams are never equal. Saying "it's just a game" in this instance is just spinning it to make it palatable.

There is no PRIZE and everyone gets a SET fee. Tell me what are James's 4 business's that I keep hearing about that he can leave for 3 or so weeks to fend for themselves? And exactly what benefit is it to these businesses for him to win? Not that he will The winners will be Chloe and Stevi.

I'm actually being matter of fact. I see no upside to James nominating his closest friend in the house. That's just wrong, IMO.
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Old 21-09-2015, 19:36
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I find it hilarious that the only excuse people can come up with is that Janice said it about Austin in the DR... yet you obviously can't stand Janice so shouldn't the same apply to Austin? It's far different to vent in the DR then to berate and tear someone down when they're not even fighting back. He had a 60 year old woman hiding under the covers with his tirade, and honestly the c-word was one of the least offensive things. I take more issue with him calling her a bad mother (yet having no clue about her relationship with her kids), and implying she is a whore because she modeled... grand human being right there. There's always an excuse for poor wittle Austin, but I don't buy it for a second. He's the nastiest one in there.

Also, I'm American. This whole 'Brits must be cold because they have no issue with James nominating Austin' is absolute crap. It has nothing to do with a cultural divide. Austin stans will apparently defend him to the death no matter what vile thing he does. The rest of us are simply as fed up as James, and glad Austin is finally getting it back. James didn't backstab Austin. He told him time and again to his face, and in return was ganged up on and cornered by Jenna/Austin about every opinion/decision he made. Good for him for not taking it anymore.
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