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Why would she ? ... he's the only one who makes her relevant
Without Austin, Janice would have faded into the background like a confused old biddy who everyone 'tolerated' What's Austin ever done? NOWT! |
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James is a scumbag. Sorry I ever supported him.
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A bad person ?
I called him a foul mouthed cretin on another thread & I was being kind !, lucky I am not in the house as I would have decked the gobshite.
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James is a scumbag. Sorry I ever supported him.
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So you will never get old will you - what an ageist thing to say! She may be an 'old biddy' but in the 80s she was the highest paid model going! She graced the covers of Vogue, Cosmo, Harpers, she was very, VERY famous. Don't you dare discount someone who has had a glittering, extremely successful career just because she's 60.
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I partly agree. However I feel he had an issue with Janice right back on day 1 or 2.
I do however think that his feelings for James and his issues with Janice are all wrapped up together. I have been musing for a day or two that he may have or think he has, feelings for James that go beyond just friends. I can easily conceive of an infatuation growing in the set up of the house and a shared intense experience. In my musings I have wondered if James has started to worry that Austin is developing feelings that he can never reciprocate and he is maybe panicking or trying to push Austin away from that path, But this is absolute conjecture on my part. I have no evidence for my theory from what we have seen on screen. On your first point, the Janice and Austin duel has been brimming and brimming for a long time. From their first little spat Janice didn't like Austin criticising America, to where Janice spit motioned Austin, to their battles this past week. It's been there all along. James and Austin is an interesting one. That's the fascinating thing about Big Brother, how it's a game; but how do you play a game when you can't predict the actions of the other players? They are very codependant. It may be possible that Austin has an infactuation with James, I'm not necessarily sure that he is aware of it though. Like you said, it's all tied into his emotions in the house, which is why the James/Janice thing is so upsetting for him. I do think James has tried to push him away and have a bit of denial about their friendship, again it may not be consciously done. I think he really like Austin as a person, they do have a strong connection, but maybe it's something that James feels they shouldn't have. |
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So you will never get old will you - what an ageist thing to say! She may be an 'old biddy' but in the 80s she was the highest paid model going! She graced the covers of Vogue, Cosmo, Harpers, she was very, VERY famous. Don't you dare discount someone who has had a glittering, extremely successful career just because she's 60.
What's Austin ever done? NOWT! I didn't mean to diminish Janice's past accomplishments, and I can see how my phrasing might upset you as a fan of hers If someone said Mohammed Ali was a confused old man, I'd take offence myself So I apologise for my post ... I didn't think it through |
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OK, point taken
I didn't mean to diminish Janice's past accomplishments, and I can see how my phrasing might upset you as a fan of hers If someone said Mohammed Ali was a confused old man, I'd take offence myself So I apologise for my post ... I didn't think it through I'm not particularly a fan of hers HisDog, I am just a fair person (I think). My Mum is 86, and failing terribly - sometimes she doesn't know what day of the week it is .... and it can happen to any of us. We all get old - Janice can be a pain, yes, but I think she's had somewhat of a raw deal from Austin on there. And I apologize for getting on my high horse Shake hands
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Why so angry?
Selena - It's funny how he only had an apology after going to the DR, and saying more vile things. He hands out apologies on the daily, and then turns around and does the exact same thing. Many in that house do, but he takes that vileness to a whole new level. I'll believe he's sorry when the behavior changes. Quote:
It's a vote to save though, and there will be some people who can't stand Janice and will have thought his rant towards her was 'good TV'
I don't think he'll go before the final |
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Selena - It's funny how he only had an apology after going to the DR, and saying more vile things. He hands out apologies on the daily, and then turns around and does the exact same thing. Many in that house do, but he takes that vileness to a whole new level. I'll believe he's sorry when the behavior changes..
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Austin seems to be a lot worse now that he's big friends with Jenna.
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Austin seems to be a lot worse now that he's big friends with Jenna.
hmmm! |
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So you will never get old will you - what an ageist thing to say! She may be an 'old biddy' but in the 80s she was the highest paid model going! She graced the covers of Vogue, Cosmo, Harpers, she was very, VERY famous. Don't you dare discount someone who has had a glittering, extremely successful career just because she's 60.
What's Austin ever done? NOWT! First of all, 60 isn't anywhere near old enough to excuse her behaviour and secondly, Janice was never as successful as she makes out. Glittering career ![]() She isn't Cindy Crawford, Elle Mcpherson or Claudia sheiffer , she's not even been beamed onto the House of Commons in the nude. |
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Interesting post.
On your first point, the Janice and Austin duel has been brimming and brimming for a long time. From their first little spat Janice didn't like Austin criticising America, to where Janice spit motioned Austin, to their battles this past week. It's been there all along. James and Austin is an interesting one. That's the fascinating thing about Big Brother, how it's a game; but how do you play a game when you can't predict the actions of the other players? They are very codependant. It may be possible that Austin has an infactuation with James, I'm not necessarily sure that he is aware of it though. Like you said, it's all tied into his emotions in the house, which is why the James/Janice thing is so upsetting for him. I do think James has tried to push him away and have a bit of denial about their friendship, again it may not be consciously done. I think he really like Austin as a person, they do have a strong connection, but maybe it's something that James feels they shouldn't have. |
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RAWWWR *does velociraptor hand motions*
![]() ![]() I don't think Austin is a bad person. I don't think anyone in there is a bad person. I disliked Farrah immensely, but she wasn't a bad person. I've met bad people and Austin (from what I know of him anyway) is not a bad person. I think with Austin, he's like a frightened animal. I don't think he's a master manipulator or would do anything premeditated to hurt people. It's pure instinct and impulse. I can imagine the nominations are going to be a huge kick in the teeth for him and that's why he was so venomous. Again, not excusing his behaviour, I just don't think it makes him a bad person, just a person who behaved badly. I agree with you that he's mostly not premeditated in his outbursts. I do think he blew the Chloe situation up past what he actually felt for airtime though. In general, he flips out in the heat of the moment though which is just as bad if not worse to me. He switches from 0 to cruel in no time at all, and just doesn't stop. How can anyone continue to scream nasty things at another person who isn't fighting back? I can argue till I'm blue in the face with people, but if someone wasn't responding I'd walk away. It no longer becomes an argument, but a bullying situation. I just can't muster up anymore sympathy for him or his circumstances when he seems to have absolutely zero for those around him. Quote:
And no, while Austin was totally out of order and should be, and I think is, deeply ashamed of himself and his total loss of self-control - I don't think even his closest family would suggest otherwise - it doesn't make me angry since it's a RTV show in which people, under pressure, behave very badly for our entertainment, rather than a news bulletin dealing with real things and real life and things that matter.
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A bad person ?
I called him a foul mouthed cretin on another thread & I was being kind !, lucky I am not in the house as I would have decked the gobshite. ![]() |
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Going to discuss nomination spoilers, and the vile nastiness Austin spewed last night so turn back now if you don't want to know... and part of me really wishes I hadn't read it so...
So, last night after it was revealed that James nominated both Austin and Jenna they obviously got into a tizzy over it. James, despite continually telling them how he didn't respect their actions, was enemy number one. Austin accused him of choosing Janice once again, and drinking the Kool-aid, while Jenna just mumbled fake-bitch-ass-whatever over and over. This post isn't about whether you agree with James' decision over not. This has to do with Austin coming into the bedroom where Janice was consoling James, and speaking to her in a way that NO ONE should ever be spoken to. Certainly not over a GAME that they have all already been paid to be on. Quotes from the very one-sided lambasting... Austin to Janice: "You are a terrible example of a women and a mother. Your children would be so embarrassed. You’re f*cking the worst excuse for a women ever... [Janice gives him the middle finger]... You’re such a good mother to throw your middle finger up on National Television. You f*cking embarrassment of a mother. You should be ashamed.” [Janice turns around and pulls the duvet over her while Austin continues.] “That’s right, I didn’t think you had anything to say, you stupid c*nt. What an embarrassment to society. Run around with your tits out, and you’re spreading your legs. You’re just such a nasty excuse for a woman…miserable…who has to pop from reality show to reality show like you do to f*cking get a pay check. Get a job, learn a trade, get some education, you stupid f*cking bitch.” What an awesome guy right? Not misogynistic at all. Not cruel or vile or... oh wait. He's all of those things. Keep in mind he's saying all this with Jenna in the room. How does Jenna not call him out for those comments basically saying Janice is a whore for posing topless, etc. Jenna is porn star, and has no shame about it (which she shouldn't), and yet she doesn't utter a word. It's Natasha and James who once again have to step in. Austin eventually goes into the Diary room, and spews some more crap about Janice needing to be "tied up and lashed". Guessing BB talks some sense into him (less all the other HM's self evict to get away), and he comes back crying that he was wrong, but he was hurt BLAH BLAH BLAH. Austin tells people to act like grown ups when he probably hasn't a day in his damn life. That kind of cruel, vitriolic behavior does not just appear because you're hurt. When he gets worked up he let's the nice guy mask fall, and shows the complete ugliness beneath. Simply put, he's a bad person. I don't think Janice is a saint. I don't think Jenna is either. Or James. Or Bobby. Or Farrah. I simply think out of every HM this year, and maybe every year I've watched, Austin is the nastiest. The fact that he could actually say those things to anyone disgusts me. Especially someone who isn't fighting back. James is right. He's let his family down, and as a fellow American I hope he stays in the UK. I honestly felt sick reading his tirade to Janice. She's totally looney tunes, but did not deserve that at all. Come at me Austin fans. I really want to know how people can justify this, and please don't use the tired excuse of 'well Janice/James/whoever did this..." I'm not talking about them or their behavior. I'm talking about Austin's actions. His words. His nastiness. Source: http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...ons-twist.html Love it, Austin is so right about Janice and its about time someone told her exactly what she is. Everything he says about her is true, shes cunning,conniving,manipulative and is a down right nasty bitch. When she entered the house she thought she was better than anyone else, look at the way she treated Gail, it was disgusting thinking she was her slave. |
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According to a spoiler i've just read he has a 17 minute breakdown in the Diary Room but i'm going to wait to see what they show in the highlight show first. Also from the website and twitter it looks like they have had a nice peaceful day in there.
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Love it, Austin is so right about Janice and its about time someone told her exactly what she is.
Everything he says about her is true, shes cunning,conniving,manipulative and is a down right nasty bitch. When she entered the house she thought she was better than anyone else, look at the way she treated Gail, it was disgusting thinking she was her slave. |
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I think Austin has feelings for James...and it could be where all of this terrible behaviour is coming from.
However forging on with it.. You know how it is when you sense somebody is attracted to you and you don't reciprocate those feelings. This might be just me but I find this an uncomfortable place to be. You can't confront the issue because the other person hasn't openly declared their admiration. So to preempt that admission would be rather conceited. Yet we do have a sixth sense when some is interested and don't want to be leading someone on that we know we could never fancy. In those circumstances it is very likely (or maybe this is just me again ![]() ) that one would try to put out warning flags to indicate to the other that you like them but are not interested in that way. You can't confront the issue but you can sort of hint to put the other off.
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He didn't call her cunning or conniving did he? No. He called her a bad mother. A bad human. A c*nt. A bitch. A whore. He didn't attack her game or the character she is most likely playing. He went after her in the most personal way possible, and spoke on things he doesn't have a clue about. Natasha isn't a Janice fan, but she called Austin out straight away. You don't have to like someone to treat them with common courtesy, and if he can't do that then simply ignore them. As for Janice acting like she's better than everyone... please Janice just acts like a kook. Gail was flittering about offering to do everything, and Janice took advantage. She's spoiled for sure, but she doesn't go out of her way to be nasty to people unless they start with her...like Austin.
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Austin seems to be a lot worse now that he's big friends with Jenna.
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Actions speak louder than words. If he was so ashamed of his behavior he wouldn't keep repeating it. As for this being a TV show - doesn't that make it worse? Why is he making it so personal and mean? This isn't even his real life or real family/friends. The amount of rage he shows is just crazy. To top it all off, Janice didn't do a thing to him. He was angry and embarrassed because James nominated him, and wasn't brave enough to lose it like that on James so he picked on the 60 year old woman who no one in the house is that fond of. Shows a very weak character.
It's not a good look and there are no excuses for what he said to Janice but I'm at least allowing for the BB house effect. You don't seem to be able to even acknowledge it. And for the record, Janice has been my favourite HM from the start and still is so don't even try to suggest, based on the above, that I'm looking to make excuses for Austin because of a prob with Janice. |
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Hang on a bit!
First of all, 60 isn't anywhere near old enough to excuse her behaviour and secondly, Janice was never as successful as she makes out. Glittering career ![]() She isn't Cindy Crawford, Elle Mcpherson or Claudia sheiffer , she's not even been beamed onto the House of Commons in the nude. |
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I think we need to applaud Jenna because she well and truly came in between James and Austin. If anyone is the biggest player who is playing it the best, it's her.
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) that one would try to put out warning flags to indicate to the other that you like them but are not interested in that way. You can't confront the issue but you can sort of hint to put the other off.